Why no winter specific boots for flats?

The Baxter Weather Pack look good… But could do with a higher top to keep more water out, a waterproof low shoe could also be described as a bucket I reckon.

5 10 definately have one on their radar, but it seems like everything else is a higher priority- including the trailbuilding shoe FFS.

I had an old pair of brasher gore tex walking boot resold with 5.10 rubber from feet first. Lasted about 6 years and used all year round. Never got wet cold feet!

I have a pair of canyoneers for kayaking. They are designed to drain quickly so are far from waterproof, designed to be work with drysuit socks or neoprene socks.

Neoprene socks with thin liner sock meet all my needs in any shoe. I use Crewsaver 3D which keep your feet reasonably warm if not completely dry.

Nike have just released an thier range of all conditions gear trainers and they look pretty good, not sure how weatherproof they are, but they are high top flat soled. Maybe i’ll go look into them a bit more now, where does that guy get his ideas from that people riding flats are usually fat trail center types? Ive riden bikes my whole life on flats and have never been fat and i dont car much for trail centers either, just because im not squeezed into a goretex breathable triple layer seam taped spd pit vented condom doesnt mean im less of a effin rider than the next person, if i bought a 6 grand carbon road bike id put flats on that too

interesting thread…for the last few seasons I’ve been using
Scrapa Zen’s , for a little more cash there’s a Goretxt version availible. Vibram sticky rubber sole, and good quality build and aesthetics.

Must say I agree with the an earlier posters comment about some cycling shoes looking a bit ‘special’!