Went to a sports physio this weekend.

They were absolutely hopeless. Talking worse than any of my inept student colleagues. Clinical reasoning went right out of the window and they wanted to test absolutely everything…..

Absolute guff. Shockingly bad.

I will no longer defend physios.

i have noticed thought that you seem to be the finest physio in the world as of the very moment you decided you should train to be one. 🙂

I had nothing but good advice and treatment from mine- definately a step above my general physio, who was also excellent. But as with everything else there’ll be good and bad ones I’m sure- I got nowhere at all with my last physio, for various reasons (not entirely down to her!)

Paul at Tara nr Oldham was spot on straight talking and honest about what could be achieved. As he predicted the ‘problem’ was resolved inside 4 weeks (3 actually) his hands on was first class and positive. cant recommend enough..

Not all physios are the same.

Some other person in the world doesn’t come up to trolling’s high standards shocker.

i shall say here and now that i have never, ever taken any of sbz’s post to work or showed them to any actual physios, medical professionals and others so that i can expose him, and therefore the education he labours under, to mock and ridicule. nor have i cut and pasted any post he has made, pasted it into a power point presentation under the header ‘knows something, just not what he’s talking about’ for a session on poor clinical reasoning. for nursing students. and neither have i bookmarked any of his posts in order that i can show them to older, qualified physios, people i respect, in order that i can say ‘see this, that’s the future of your profession that is.’

no, i would not do such a thing and anyone who suggests i have is guilty of a scurrilous misrepresentation.

My physio seems good, if only because he told me not to make an apointment until I’ve been through works and nhs physios to save money.

Physios are on the whole are PE teachers who decided to take course in a bit of first aid training, biology, massage therapy and hydrotherapy. It’s a course for stupid posh girls who couldn’t cut it real medicine and whom only want to work 4 days a week so they can ride mommy and daddies horse’s.

You do get the odd one or two useful ones though. I have even less to say about osteopath’s and chiropractors, of which physio’s are a rung above.

Obviously all the professional and national sports teams feel the same but just employ one to look good….

Student makes an ass of themselves in claiming to know more than the experts, shocka!!

Define “Sports Physio”……someone who has actually done a full time university based post graduate course for a further year at least, and then worked with professional teams/athletes at high level, or a new graduate who looks after the local football/rugby/hockey team at the weekend and works at a (in name only) “sports physio” practice. One in the same so do your research on who you see……same as any profession.

do your research on who you see

This. I’d be interested to know how the selection of who to see was made?

This was at a large sporting event and the physio service was provided free of charge to competitors. The physios were all qualified for a number of years, three of them working together for 75minutes doing every test under the sun still couldnt come up with an accurate diagnosis despite doing every test under the sun. (I already had a diagnosis via a national team level physio, but seeing as the service was free and I wanted some treatment I went in to get some).

There appears to be a huge gulf in ability between those trained in Scotland and those trained in England. There was a Scottish guy providing physio in the same place and he seemed much more competent.

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There appears to be a hug gulf in ability

Ah – you just went in for a cuddle. How sweet 🙂
Edit: Quick edit there George…..

Maybe your national team physio was wrong ? So three of them there for an hour and a quarter for free ? Realllllllly ? I certainly know what I pay, on mates rates, for being seen by a Super 15 and ABs physio and doc and that is not exactly cheap. Or perhaps you are a medical mystery and in years to come your case will be regaled in the annals of physiotherapy teachings worldwide.

There appears to be a huge gulf in ability between those trained in Scotland and those trained in England. There was a Scottish guy providing physio in the same place and he seemed much more competent.

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IanMunro – physio degree in Scotland is 4yrs, English one is 3yrs.

So this is a class in basic trolling then.

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physio degree in Scotland is 4yrs, English one is 3yrs.

Scots are slower learners……

I’m confused.

I bet the English physios don’t need to go and see another physio…

Scots are slower learners……

Do they have to pay for their degrees?

You have a point with English course length…..less than most now (NZ, Aus,SA, Canada 4 years undergrad all uni based) thanks to cost cutting. But as mentioned, a true sports physio will have pursued further full time university based post graduate training and there are numerous excellent post grad English physio’s. Time in profession is no substitute for this. Don’t know too many top physio’s working for free as they’re far too busy! Look for pg dip/masters in sports or manipulative physio quals if you want a specialist.

Out of interest how do you know the diagnosis you already have is the right one?

Even National Team coaches might have off days.

Not all physios are the same.

Is this similar to “99% of lawyers give the other 1% a bad name”?

How would you go about finding a good physio? I’m getting a niggling knee ache – and although my judgement is to ignore it until it magically fixes itself, but better half keeps telling me to go see a physio.

No point going to the docs, he’ll just tell me to stop riding.

I have met one or two good ones but a number of poor or mediocre ones. I try to educate myself about my injuries and as I have been running for over 30 yrs competively and with the availability of information on the internet theres no excuse for not doing your homework.

A good physio is worth her/his weight in gold but there are a lot of the other kind who will at best not improve the situation and in some cases make it worse.

Obviously all the professional and national sports teams feel the same but just employ one to look good….

It’s things like physiotherapy having no effect on lower back pain and then the CPS dodging the question on their website as to whether physiotherapy helps back pain that pisses me off. Because they still haven’t quite left the realms of quackery (eg osteopaths) and fully entered the world of evidence based practice.

i wouldn’t be able to cycle without having visited one.
a plug for the physiotherapy and sports injuries clinic at crystal palace stadium
http://www.cpsic.co.uk/%5B/url%5D

It’s things like physiotherapy having no effect on lower back pain

That’s lower back pain due to all causes it has no effect on?

What’s it got to do with the Crown Prosecution Service anyway?

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