We should be proud of our NHS

seosamh77 – Member

you need to start eating bran flakes and getting more fiber in ye.

Yes, I am trying more fiber in my diet now.

The doctor also said there is a possibility that it will subside after several months so I just have to wait. If it doesn’t then I will see if I can request for the rubber band procedure. Far better than going under the knife where they practically cut a big slice of your arse out. 😯 Saw that on Youtube …

ernie_lynch – Member

No I’ve never had them – I take good care of my anal pore.

Apparently we all have piles but just that some of us does not get problems from them.

And yes bleeding hasn’t been a recognised form of treatment in the UK since they stopped using leeches I believe.

I have seen proper jungle leeches (tiger leeches I think they are called) in the far east so I doubt I want that on my arse put it this way. They are Huggeee!

BTW you say that they probed you with either their fingers or an instrument but how do you know ? Presumably you had your back to them so you can’t be entirely sure what they probed you with. Did it make your eyes water ?

Well, because I turned my head around to see what they were doing. They were lubing up their fingers or instrument (that instrument could expand when inserted). Can’t trust anyone behind my back you know.

No eye watering but it was very painful where the pile was. It feels like they had stuck a pole up my bum.

chewkw – Member
seosamh77 – Member
you need to start eating bran flakes and getting more fiber in ye.

Yes, I am trying more fiber in my diet now.

The doctor also said there is a possibility that it will subside after several months so I just have to wait. If it doesn’t then I will see if I can request for the rubber band procedure. Far better than going under the knife where they practically cut a be slice of your arse out. Saw that on Youtube …trust me I get them from time to time when I start eating a poor diet, eat a few bowls of bran flakes a day for 5 or 6 days and they’ll go away.

seosamh77 – Member

trust me I get them from time to time when I start eating a poor diet, eat a few bowls of bran flakes a day for 5 or 6 days and they’ll go away.

Thanks for the advice. I shall do that. 🙂

There’s good and bad in the NHS, that’s a given. However, I am pleased to report that many of the foreigners who I work with admire the NHS, and would love to see a system like ours in their own country.

To quote an Italian colleague (who has twice needed fairly serious repairs due to road traffic accidents, once in his own land and once in the UK) “You might complain about te NHS, but it’s F*****g civilised compared to home”.

If you fall ill on the Surrey/ Hants border, slip the ambulance driver a few quid to take you to Frimley Park Hospital. It’s superb, run by army staff like a SWiss clock.
The alternative is The Royal Surrey County Hospital. An utter disgrace that should really have been bulldozed when planned a few years ago.
Only twenty miles away but a world apart in standards of service. Just about everything that can be has been hived off to private tender. Not ideal…

OK, I’ve been living in the US for 2 years.

People die here because they can’t afford medical care. People lose their homes because they cannot afford the copay on their less good insurance.

Yes, the care for the wealthy and insured is great. I, for one, would take the NHS over the system they have here, and I’m lucky – good job, good insurance.

Imagine your child is sick. But it’s a difficult month and you’ve had to repair your car. You know if they need much (say some tests, a night in hospital) it’s going to cost you $1000. Imagine sitting there an thinking about the cost of getting help for your child and if you can afford it.

Then complain about the NHS.

The NHS has been good to me when I actually get to see a doctor.
Due to the fabulous Betsi Cadwallader trust not being able to managing wiping their own arses the psychiatrists who I have had have left to better jobs.
This means in the last 12 months I have been seen by different locums who really don’t give a damn.

The NHS is by no means perfect, but I do think it is way way better than alternative available…. unless any of the NHS bashers can come up with an alternative?

My own experience of the NHS is that my family alone has had well more than £100k’s worth of care in the last 5 years alone, and all our health needs have been dealt with, although at times we have had to push to get the right treatment / know how to use the system.

Unfortunately what I see 1 major problem in the NHS at the minute, and thats funding. It is being cut, despite what government may try and say. This means that back office / management jobs have gone, and there are not enough clinicians to see the increasing number of patients. Just like any organisation there are bad people working in the NHS, but what I see more is clinicians having to do more admin/management work, which they are not skilled in, or have the time to do, and what management are left are just fire fighting and can not actually do much to rectify problems/issues.

Then there is the fact that clinicians are working harder for less money, so the natural temptation for them is to go abroad where they can get better T&c’s and much nicer working conditions.

All said I am glad I live in the UK and have access to the NHS.

The alternative of private medical insurance is pretty rubbish. Where I work we have compulsory private medical insurance (compulsory to pay for it, not compulsory to use), but it doesn’t cover pre-existing conditions or anything deemed incurable.

2nd feb I fell off my bike, went to hospital next day, sent for physio saw consultant the next day. Few weeks later seen by consultant thursday no improvement so had surgery on the monday. Physio once a week since. Great service imo.
Hope chewkw piles hurt

Compulsory medical insurance ? No way to opt out ? Never heard of that before.

Always excellent to the extent that the out of hours GP I saw yesterday took the time and trouble to track down and speak with the SHO who assisted with the opeartion on my hand a couple of weeks ago as she had a query on the k wires or the excellent nurse practitioner who changed the dressing and checked the wound last weekend, gave me a box of dressings so that I could change them (and a pair of scissors to cut the dressings with)and all this despite being the Welsh NHS where according to Putin/Cameron I am under sentence of death.

My mother died of cancer last November and the end of life care she recived was second to non(as was the treatment she recived before this). My father, who has just spent 2 months in John Radcliff in Oxford with final stage OCPD also recived care second to none to the extent that from being told to expect the worst he is now back at home and living his life again quite happily.

No complaints here and very proud of our NHS, Welsh and English.

anagallis_arvensis – Member
… Physio once a week since. Great service imo.
Hope chewkw piles hurt

You fell off your bike on 2nd Feb so went for Physio which did not work so they butchered you like a mechanic, then more physio?

But aren’t you wishing me too soon for my pain when your own damage might be permanent?

My friend had a motorbike accident when he was younger which crashed his leg and hospital(NHS) managed to patch him up but now he needs to use walking stick. Yes, he did physio and the lot.

There is a possibility if your damage cannot be repaired then you will feel the pain for the rest of your life.

Rule of thumb, never wish other pain while you are going for medical treatment yourself.

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suburbanreuben – Member
If you fall ill on the Surrey/ Hants border, slip the ambulance driver a few quid to take you to Frimley Park Hospital. It’s superb, run by army staff like a SWiss clock.
The alternative is The Royal Surrey County Hospital. An utter disgrace that should really have been bulldozed when planned a few years ago.
Only twenty miles away but a world apart in standards of service.

These things are cyclical…Frimley has only been good since the new A&E a few years ago….when i started in the local Ambulance Service (14 yrs ago) it was the other way round, Royal Surrey was the better of the two A&E depts and Frimley was awful.
The army do put a lot of money into FPH but its not army run, all in all its a good hospital though and pleased to have it on my doorstep.

Compulsory medical insurance ? No way to opt out ? Never heard of that before.

Ever heard of National Insurance? 🙂

trust me I get them from time to time when I start eating a poor diet, eat a few bowls of bran flakes a day for 5 or 6 days and they’ll go away.

There’d be no need for the thousands of cases of surgery that the NHS perform if it were that simple and it would be so much cheaper! Speaking as someone who has actually had the surgery I feel qualified to comment.I was admitted to hospital as an emergency by my GP to have the operation.My op.kept being postponed due to the demands on theatre time and I was in so much pain I elected to have it done under local anaesthetic rather than the usual general just to get it done.You know things must be bad when both the doctors and nurses look pale and are practically speechless after your examination!
I am in no way defending chewkw btw.

allthepies – the “opt out” for us is to opt out of using it.

I can’t use my private medical insurance for help with frequent migraine, CBT for depression, or treatment for my back, and I tolerate very few meds, so I can’t take most antidepressants, most prophylactic migraine treatments, or painkillers for my back, and the NHS doesn’t have any options for me either!

Edit: good job I’m well ‘ard!

The largest problem of the NHS is unnecessary use of services. For instance people going to A&E because they have a painful Farmer Giles.

Drac – Moderator

The largest problem of the NHS is unnecessary use of services. For instance people going to A&E because they have a painful Farmer Giles.

I was sent there Not of my own request, I even asked if that was necessary to send me to A&E, since it was meant for A&E but was told to go there nonetheless. I just followed the instruction as told.

You might argue that I could have waited or not go but the fact is that once a person engages the bureaucratic system, the person needs to do as told otherwise missing any of the “tick boxes” means prolong delay or will simply be ejected out of the system.

Bear in mind, I was sent there by a nurse who knows about medical situation then me so am I to argue with her?

Next time perhaps you can try challenging the bureaucratic system to see how far you get. Try it. Challenge them.

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Drac – Moderator

The largest problem of the NHS is unnecessary use of services

Yes, those self inflicted alcohol related accidents on every Friday and Saturday night.

Luckily chewkw I dont give a **** what you think. Especially lucky as most of your rambling shite makes no sense anyway.

anagallis_arvensis – Member

Luckily chewkw I dont give a **** what you think. Especially lucky as most of your rambling shite makes no sense anyway.

Just saying like that’s all.

Bad omen that whether you believe or not and especially by wishing pain on someone else medical related issue(s). No, no that is bad really really bad … omen that is. Now you just have to keep a mental note of your situation and observe them then compare to the thing I said to see if it is right … let’s hope I am wrong. i.e. the bad omen.

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wtf are talking about.
How are your piles anyway? Throbbing?

I think he’s saying that wishing ill on people isn’t good.

I got that bit it was the rest I was struggling with. Maybe the throbbing is affecting his head.

come on guys don’t turn this into a slanging match…

its chewkw prerogative to have a view whether you like it or not…

its a good thread with many positive stories

😛

If only we could understand what his view is.
I wonder what karma he is packing given that no one will treat his piles.

My nhs experience today leaves me cold.

My daughter hit her chin off her knee by accident. Split one of her teeth clean in two. You can see all the inside of the tooth. She’s only five and in real agony. No dentist facilities in Taunton so I phone Exeter (only 25mins away).

They take her details then when they realise I’m in Somerset not Devon they said they can’t help. What do you mean you can’t f’ing help. She’s 5 for goodnesss sake. So trip to Bristol it is. F’ing useless.

(And yes we did go through nhs direct but they never got back to us before 6 when they stop).

And relax.

Thats a bit shit. Dental care is a weak point imo. I presume you tried a&e? If shes in real pain thats what I’d do.

They prescribed suppositories when I had piles, but I may as well have stuck them up my arse for all the good they did.

The a&e in Taunton couldn’t treat her so rather than just trundle down the motorway instead we’ve had to travel f’ing miles. I’m quite cross with Exeter hospital. I should have just rocked up I guess. We’ve pumped her full of calpol and she’s being a very brave girl

I’m proud of it but it needs a lot of work, my experience has been both brilliant and shockingly bad, so bad in fact I’d never ever go to Kingsmill Hospital ever again. Stafford hospital is all I’ll say to those who think its perfect. The older I get the more it’s a concern to my per group. Not that we feel any different about the many organisations charged with looking after you when you reach gimmerdom.

anagallis_arvensis – Member

wtf are talking about.
How are your piles anyway? Throbbing?

No throbbing but need to watch the way I sit like not just rest by bum on the seat heavily and instantly.

anagallis_arvensis – Member

If only we could understand what his view is.
I wonder what karma he is packing given that no one will treat his piles.

My views are as follows:

1. NHS is highly bureaucratic system. A career suicide if you mess with it. Even the experts in manipulation like the politicians try to avoid it.
2. Treatment is dependent on individual condition. i.e. some lucky ones got problems solved, unlucky ones just have to endure the problems themselves. You can praise it but to limited extend.
3. Individual opinions vary. Some positives and some negatives. Fact!
4. It is a bad omen to wish pain or bad things on others’ medical condition. i.e. what goes around comes around. 🙄 This is particularly true of medical related illness. I would never cross that line no matter how minor they are.

My own karma for being unfortunate not to be treated and perhaps due my negative views on bureaucratic system that I finally encountered them.

As for NHS dental, been there too and the problem only got sorted when I finally got it extracted at private dental practice because my NHS dentist messed up. i.e. I was in agony with no appointment for a long time.

rob2 – Member

My nhs experience today leaves me cold.

Glad to hear you managed to sort things out yourself.
Brave girl indeed.

🙂

As for NHS dental, been there too and the problem only got sorted when I finally got it extracted at private dental practice because my NHS dentist mess up. i.e. I was in agony with no appointment for a long time.

seems to be a pattern here

Next time perhaps you can try challenging the bureaucratic system to see how far you get. Try it. Challenge them.

I do almost daily at work it often gets me quite far and has even lead to policy reviews.

anagallis_arvensis – Member

As for NHS dental, been there too and the problem only got sorted when I finally got it extracted at private dental practice because my NHS dentist mess up. i.e. I was in agony with no appointment for a long time.

seems to be a pattern here

Yep a pattern here. i.e. no appointment available on time.

I get regular check up once or twice a year but once when the time I got tooth infection I tried to book for appointment long in advance but to no avail. The infection was bad and I was in pain but was told no appointment available. When I managed to see the dentist, the infection was already worsen, so the dentist tried to sort it out only to make things worst. Told me the pain would settle but over the next 3 days I was in agony. Then sent me to dentist at the hospital only to be told that the previous dentist might have worsen the condition. Did not offer to extract it but told me to take pain killer. Took that for 3 days then I gave up … private dentist just advised me to extract it as it was too late to save it.

Drac – Moderator
I do almost daily at work it often gets me quite far and has even lead to policy reviews.

I can’t as it takes too much time which I cannot afford.

If you are able to improve the system then you have done a great deal of good to many. Not many people can do that put it this way. Good karma too! 😀

If you are able to improve the system then you have done a great deal of good to many. Not many people can do that put it this way.

Cheers. Yes they can even a small complaint or enquiry can start the process it just doesn’t happen overnight that’s all.

I suspect the dental service is so poor on the NHS because successive governments treated the dentists like shit until eventually they had enough and all resigned and went private. These private individuals only want to do profitable stuff at hours they choose. No-one likes emergencies as there’s no money in it and it’s inconvenient.

So, when the press and the government are continually beating down on how shit your GP; A&E dept; waiting times and paramedics are, and trying to sell off the profitable bits to their mates, think very carefully about whether this is a good idea or not…….

NHS would be better with doctors that actually knew their arse from their elbow.

Oh dear.

Well that’s going to be unpleasant for people who go in with tennis elbow…

Good job Chewkw didn’t see one of those ones.