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Pelagos 25600TN?
good guess Wally! Pelagos Smurf
Got a huge love of Ti watches myself.
Lovely blue (see a very recent watch factors thread on these) and super clean dial - nice.
I've been hunting for something visually different to my black dialed PO. tried the latest SMP in blue but the blue is quite dark, very dark if the lighting isn't vibrant. This on the other hand has a lovely bright blue in all lights. Like the super clear and clean tool watch look too. very VERY happy with it!
Rather a funny article in Vice about posh watches. Not sure most on here would entirely agree with the sentiment, but made me chuckle. 😁
That Vice article is brilliant..
Now..as a man who likes posh/££ watches, I don't think the whole 'idea' of a pricey watch is terrible. but THOSE pricey watches are gopping!!
DrP
I can't see the images neilnevill!
Ooh, that reddish spinnaker is lush...
One MAY have just ordered it....
DrP
I can’t see the images neilnevill!
No, me either, just a little grey no-entry sign.
odd
but not entirely surprising with google photos
lets try again.
Eddie's recovery (Timefactors) is going well - Thumbs up.
New Expedition looks great.
Probably next purchase.
Hadn't realised he wasn't well, I only use a few bits of the forum. Wally the tz thread about the pelagos, I'm in it heavily (London Neil) and i got mine from sales corner.
The original Seiko 62MAS is one of the prettiest dive watches I have come across. A few companies are doing homages. Seiko have updated it but is out of the price range of mere mortals. Tried putting up a pic of the original but cant seem to manage it.
This one? 
Yes. Thanks tthew that's an absolute beauty IMO. Very understated. Apparently the diameter of those originals is only 37mm.
@Athgray YouTube channel Just One More Watch does a review of a 62mas homage by San Martin. It's really nice. I'd go for one of those of you like that style.
Sas78, I have seen that San Martin review. That's where I first saw the Seiko. The San Martin might have to go on the Xmas list.
JOMW also reviews another Seiko 62 MAS homage by 54 watches, but I prefer the San Martin.
Sapphire crystal and ceramic bezel insert. It's a nice watch. I like the slight spearmint colours, indices are big but not overly massive. I also like the simple hands on it.
I say this not normally being a fan of divers.
Three things put me off the San Martin.
1. Squared off hands. Especially on a diver.
2. The lazy logoing - SAN MARTIN. They have a logo:
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This would have made the face so much classier than arial caps or whatever it is.
3. The plain crown looks cheap.At least have SM stamped on it.
Other than that...
50 years of Seiko ownership. The one on the left is from 1970 when I lived in Singapore. I'm not sure when Seiko's were available in the UK, so popular with the Brits
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New black leather for the Deville Chrono has given it a fresh lease of life:
That DeVille is beautiful. Really stunning.
Has anyone done this yet one?
Ouch.
oh man that san martin.... $193 usd and free delivery. its so pretty.............
The 62MAS reissue had a cheaper "brother" that might still be available?
SPB051/053
Article here:
The Return of the 62MAS
It's a shame about the hands on that Seiko. Nothing like the 62MAS.
As athgray says, those hands are a real mistake, they just don’t belong with that face design, it should have hands more like the Marine Master 300.
Anyhoo, my Tuna homage arrived yesterday, and I’m chuffed to bits with it. It’s really nicely put together, the shroud is black rather than raw steel, which I think looks better, and I’m giving the rubber strap a try; every strap of that sort I’ve tried in the past has left my wrist red and itchy, but after two days it’s fine, perhaps because it’s got the concertina sections in it, so more breathable, or maybe just a different material, it certainly feels softer, I’ll see how it goes.
I can’t comment on accuracy, it far too soon, I’ll give it a week or two to get a better idea, but after two days it seems to be keeping good time; the hackable NH35 Seiko movement makes like much easier for sure.
A good friend of mine showed me one of her watches that had just come back from the jewellers - I nearly fainted when I found out how much it cost!!
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An AP Royal Oak Chrono of sme kind...gotta be north of £20k.
popped the tudor onto a nato....
An AP Royal Oak Chrono of sme kind…gotta be north of £20k.
Around that... real ones anyway. I have suspicions of the one in the photo. The numerals aren't quite right - the counters on the 8 and 4 are too large. The polished outer bevel of the bezel looks too steep (could be the photo) and overal finish doesn't scream AP quality to me (for example there are bevels missing on the crown guards from what I can see)
On another note, your photos still aren't working Neil.
You know much more about the royal oak than i do then, beyond recognising the fugly lump and knowing its rare as rocking horse poo and absurdly expensive I know little. I prefer the PP aquanaut for that kind of look...but again I'll probably never own one so I don't hanker after it or know a great deal! I did see a watchfinder vid on youtube last week that suggested the royal oak saved the swiss watch industry, nice video, they always are from watchfinder.
Around that… real ones anyway. I have suspicions of the one in the photo. The numerals aren’t quite right – the counters on the 8 and 4 are too large. The polished outer bevel of the bezel looks too steep (could be the photo) and overal finish doesn’t scream AP quality to me (for example there are bevels missing on the crown guards from what I can see)
Interesting to hear people that are into the details that much, they spot things like this.
Fake or real though, it's still an ugly nut 🙂
exactly! its...its....its UGLY!
found it
https://mrgold.london/product/audemars-piguet-royal-oak-offshore-themes/
jus over £20k and that's on the rubber strap!
The 8 and 4 match that link better than the example I was comparing too earlier - possibly an earlier/later variation. If I’m wrong on the fugazi call I apologise!
And yes, it’s a fugly watch lol
That Audemars Piguet is gopping! I honestly can’t see how those ‘screws’ around the bezel are supposed to work, there’s a slot, supposedly for a screwdriver, but they’ve got a hex head set into a hexagonal hole; seems utterly ridiculous/pointless to me.
But then, it does seem that the more expensive fashion watches become, the uglier and less practical they become as well. Talk about a fool and his money...
As an aside, I’ve checked the timekeeping of my new ‘Tuna’, and from Monday morning when I got it, until the same time today, it had gained about eight seconds, which seems pretty good to me.
I’ll see how it does over a couple of weeks.
I can guarantee that the AP watch is not a fake.... Present from her husband (and they have a £20k fridge!)
I agree it's an acquired taste but actually looks better in real life than in the pic!
I can't say it's particularly reliable though!!
Not so sure about "a fool and his money" in this case; the Offshore is pretty "hot" at the moment, and is probably appreciating in value.
Anyway, sod the AP, I want to see a £20k fridge!
Tuna looks great btw CountZero
And I can't see NeilNevill's pics either 🙁
Me neither
I honestly can’t see how those ‘screws’ around the bezel are supposed to work, there’s a slot, supposedly for a screwdriver, but they’ve got a hex head set into a hexagonal hole; seems utterly ridiculous/pointless to me.
Was just about to post this! It would annoy the shit out of me
Yes the hex head screws don't actually turn.
Me to, but at £20k for the watch it's really not likely to be a issue I have to come to terms with. 😁
I hope the fridge keeps bloody good time.
Can't see my photos? Not yesterday's either? I really struggle with Google photos sometimes! The first links were to the photos in my album and I thought they no one else could see them as they weren't shared in Google.... So the reposted photos were to the pics once is moved them to a shared album. Right... Flickr instead then.
I wonder if the Google photos problem is a "too many people have viewed this image" problem - there's a BIG space with the little no entry sign, so it's clearly delivering some sort of image.
I also agree that AP is hideous. Money can't buy taste...
While I'm on this thread, does anyone know about INSTRMNT watches / have any opinion on them? My wife came home with one last week - a reward to herself on getting a new job with a decent pay rise, and she liked the look of them.
It looks smart, she's got the black strap and rose gold face, it looks good on her and she's very happy with it. I'd just never heard of them before:
she liked the look of them.
It looks smart, she’s got the black strap and rose gold face, it looks good on her and she’s very happy with it.
I love watches and to me that’s pretty much all you need for a good watch.
doing a bit of reading it seems google photos, unlike photos in google drive (they no longer sinc to there) doesn't do the embedding thing. However there are apps to covert shring links into embed code so....fingers crossed and please tell me if it works....
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Ah ha! ahhahahahha! well i can see it. but then i could see them before....but that was because i'm me...hopefully that is a shared embedded image
on the bracelet
crown side
HEV side
and the funky extending clasp
Those ones work! Looks great, lovely watch.
I can guarantee that the AP watch is not a fake…. Present from her husband (and they have a £20k fridge!)
Gah - you'd be surprised. I know a chap with a Rolls Royce Phantom, Ferrari 458, P1.... house worth millions.... the lot. Guy wears a fake rose gold AP Royal Oak and a fake Rolex gold day date (which looks awful, not even a good fake). Baffles me why he wears fakes when he could afford the real ones and it would be a rounding error on his bank account.
@neilnevill
Thats my 60th Birthday present to myself sorted for next May, it's just ticking all the boxes 👍👍
It's nice enough but IMO it'd
look
a whole
lot better
without
War and Peace
all over
the dial
plus "Swiss Made" and a logo. Moar blue!
Lol at Johnners comment. That is a fair bit of script for a watch face.
yes indeed the older (black only) ETA equipped Pelagos had less text. they added the 'Pelagos' and the 'chronometer officially certified' when it got the inhouse movement, hence adding 3 lines! I don't mind it. its a very very clear watch to read the time on. However I can see why it gets criticised. why not say 'automatic' and save 2 words? do they need the 'chronometer officially certified' on the dial? could put 'COSC' on if it is such a selling point? Does it need 'Geneve' at all? If it were me I'd probably not bother with geneve, put Pelagos to the top half under Tudor and have 'COSC, Perpetual' and the depth rating.....but then 'perpetual' is big brother Rolex's term....but then Tudor used to use 'Oyster' so that shouldn't matter....whatever, yes 5 lines of text is a too much. Yet to find the perfet watch I guess.
For sale....one Tudor Pelagos smurf ....hmm...maybe not
. That is a fair bit of script for a watch face.
Saves on reading material, even more of a win 😉
The hex "screws" on that AP Royal Oak are actually blind nuts. The bezel is held on by screws that screw into them from the back. The slots are to hold them in place when the screw goes in so the corners of them and the recesses don't deform.
Agree that there are many, many much prettier things in the world to blow £20k on tho 👍
for comparison the older ETA equipped Pelagos (which only came in Black) had a much cleaner dial
That 2 line pelagos is lush. Reminds me of the old no date sub with its uncluttered simplicity.
or rather....the Tudor snowflake submariner
😍
Tudor looks lovely!
I also have a bit of a beef with unnecessary writing on a watch face. Surely 'Chronometer' implies that it is officialy certified? What else would a self-winding watch have other than a rotor?
The worst is Rolex spoiling the Deep Sea Dweller with an enormous "ORIGINAL GAS ESCAPE VALVE" around the chapter ring.
Anyway, rant over. I'm craving a diver myself at the moment. There are some nice ones from Certina and Tissot in the £500 bracket, but predictably the one I really want is the Ball Skindiver 2 at over 2k. Not looking likely anytime soon 🙁
true, chronomenter does mean certified. I agree its got too much text. i love it though, the colour is fabulous.
Yes, the colour is great, and it oozes quality. Loving that clasp!
@cb200 - Orient do some nice looking automatic divers, the Ray II is quite affordable
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Orient-Black-Automatic-Rubber-AA02007B/dp/B01AK5TQNG/ref=pd_sbs_241_5/257-8575957-8531314?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01AK5TQNG&pd_rd_r=8417e29d-8176-49a9-bb4c-66b908a3ff86&pd_rd_w=qaD7g&pd_rd_wg=fy9gk&pf_rd_p=2b420a2f-6593-478e-8b5f-cb43865ff16f&pf_rd_r=37KE6RRCYA3B1PDMZTCT&psc=1&refRID=37KE6RRCYA3B1PDMZTCT
Oh, and that Tudor Pelageos is rather lovely, even with all the text. I think I prefer it to the older model with the ETA movement, the bezel looks just a bit too wide on that one.
Oh, and that Tudor Pelageos is rather lovely, even with all the text. I think I prefer it to the older model with the ETA movement, the bezel looks just a bit too wide on that one.
I prefer the older one though I agree with you about the finer edged bezel looking nicer so I think it must be because the dial looks so much cleaner.
Orient do some nice looking automatic divers, the Ray II is quite affordable
They do, but that Ray is way overpriced. You can pick up a Mako for about £120 easily enough, and less than £200 will get you a Kamasu with sapphire.
They do, but that Ray is way overpriced. You can pick up a Mako for about £120 easily enough, and less than £200 will get you a Kamasu with sapphire.
Not really familiar with Mako or Kamasu, but Heimdallr who make the Tuna homage I’ve got do a whole bunch of dive watches, including a Tudor homage some of which are around the £120-159 range, they’re priced in dollars, mine was £145, and I’m really impressed with the standard of finish.
Especially considering the shroud mod I was considering for the SKX007 was £160 on top of the cost of the watch.
Which, btw, is up for grabs, if anyone wants it. I’ve put the original rubber strap back on, and given it a buff up, looks absolutely brand new.
I'll take that off your hands, if someone else hasn't bagsied it already Count. Will PM you later. Cheers!
BTW if you haven't noticed, Omega put their prices up 5% at the start of the month. I'm guessing Rolex will do similar in the next few weeks.
I thought about the superfluous text on the tudor last night and looked up the Geneve marking. it is seens as a step up from 'swiss made' apparently. So I guess 'Geneve' is seen as a selling point to watch geeks, but they can't take 'swiss made' off or non geeks won't know the Geneve trumps it. I guess 'chronometer' vs 'COSC' vs 'chronomenter self winding' is similar, only geeks know what cosc or just chronometer mean. However Tudor, please ask yourself, do you need to shout all your achievements on the dial? the case back has plenty of room.
I thought about the superfluous text on the tudor last night
Most manufacturers do it to an extent but it can definitely be done better with less info or a more subtle typeface. The Spinnaker (3 lines)on P30 or the Kamasu (logo +4 lines) on P28 are examples of relatively subtle branding/info on a dial. Granted neither of those have the same heritage or features to shout about as Tudor but you've hit the nail on the head asking "do you need to shout all your achievements on the dial?".
I’ll take that off your hands, if someone else hasn’t bagsied it already Count. Will PM you later. Cheers!
Thanks, replied to, it’s now boxed, waiting for an address to go to the post office tomorrow.
😁
if that has worked its me trying another strap
Looks even better on the wrist, and shown off in better light. Really nice diver. I think the plain blue nato is my favourite of the three so far.
It's a nice looking watch neil, but appears massive. Is it a 42mm case?
Different opinion to cb but I like it on the bracelet. I reckon it would look great on a rubber strap. What's the lug width?