Trouties New Light is on the way ( Update to all interested folks who emailed me

Hi, can you tell the cost of both the full-Trouty and the half-Trouty lights please (I understand the battery would need to be bought from Smudge BTW)?
And… why is the half-Trout 800 lumens when the full-on version is 1100? Or am I missing something?

Xpe's in the 4 led version xpg's going in the 6 led version I think. If xpg's went in the small one it would be brighter still.

Hairychested – Member

Hi, can you tell the cost of both the full-Trouty and the half-Trouty lights please (I understand the battery would need to be bought from Smudge BTW)?
And… why is the half-Trout 800 lumens when the full-on version is 1100? Or am I missing something?

No idea on the real price just yet but it wont be £50 but it will be the cheapest 2000 lumen light out there ( and it can be turned down so no whingeing about too much light).

If it turns out there are some folks interested in having one of these lights then mail me and we can go from there.

Thought the full-on version was nearer 2000 lumens

Xpgs in the baby trout would be around 1380 lumens!
Thought the half trout would be a 3 Xpg light??

Troutie has only put the XPE's in for testing. The XPG's aren't out yet 😉 not long now though

I've pre ordered a 20mm triple for my dinotte conversion and a 35mm for a lumi Hid can i've aquired! 😀

Trout, that little light is amazing! Just imagining what a combination of the two would be like, with both using xpg's. Low power would be all you'd need 90% of the time, and the run times would be exceptional. Oh, and the little light could be called the Small Fry…
No? Ok, I'll get me coat…
Actually, to be pedantic, it should be called the Fingerling, but that just doesn't sound as good, somehow. 😀

Add in the classified with the prices on and a donation made to the beer fund at stw towers.http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/trout-light

Hairychested this is just a test light with the XPEs in
both lights will have XPG R4 Leds in for an in theory max lumen count of 2070 and 1380

the half trout is 4 leds because the driver cavity can only be so small and 4 leds worked best and looked best for the size .
it is a fiddly little bugger to wire up
the 6 led one is easier to assemble with the larger cavity .

😆 Xipe ( fingerling )

Can you post a pic of the battery connectors you use please ?

For some reason I seem to be drawn to the Half Trout/Smoked Trout/Troutlette/Fingerling …

NzCol

the standard 2.5 dc connector as the lumicycle type is standard on smudges batteries .

quite a few folks are putting their own connector on to match their existing batteries .

with the odd few supplieing my with a matching connector for their batteries

so it is a flexible arrangement

Trout.

For side visibility, couldn't you just put a small hole in the side and plug it a PC core ?, interferrence fit.

🙂

Solo.

Are the standard 2.5 dc connectors (lumicycle type) robust enough? would it be worth looking through the RS catalogue for something a bit more waterproof and with a bit of a positive lock so they don't come apart? Any suggestions?

ChrisS I agree the 2.5 are not ideal but I have stared at the rs stuff for ages hoping one will jump out that is great .

if anyone finds a real good one please let me know .
all the ace ones are mega dear .

solo yes side vis is doable but not yet on this run

We use bulgin mini buccaneers for our products – v robust but not cheap and a bit bulky.

Why are decent cable glands so much bigger than the cables? 😡

You can get lock on 2.5mm dc connectors. Also remember to tell troutie if you will be using a lumicycle battery as the polarity will be reversed to his standard light

AMP Superseal are what I use.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-Way-AMP-Superseal-Waterproof-Kit_W0QQitemZ170381222284QQ

£2+ P&P for a pair, or buy the individual bits in bigger quantities from Farnell / RS for a better price.

http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?SKU=151063 – 10p
http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?SKU=151038 – 10p
http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?SKU=150400 – 52p
http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?SKU=150654 – 67p
http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?SKU=150915 – 5p

Good find cxi, not silly money but still quite big!

Aye, not the smallest but then you have a keyed, locking, IP rated connector. I usually finish them off with some heat-shrink. They are quite easy to make up without the £100+ Amp crimp tool, even for a ham-fisted goon like me who has killed several TaskLED boards 🙄

Mr Trout please mail me matt@singletrackworld.com

All sorted cheers ;]

A bit of explaining now

they were getting worried that it was getting bigger than just a few lights for the mates and did not want a fuss from paying advertisers
so we have agreed I will pay for an add on here .or a banner not sure exactly what but it needs to be sorted on monday

I am now needing the creative help of you lot to do me a banner add of some discription as my skills dont go to creative IT stuff

bit from matts mail

"What I'd like is an advert (banner would be great ) at XXXX a week in return I can open the thread(s) again and also calm any other advertisers. I see you've had people with artwork ideas for you so I'm sure they can knock something up for you!

Banner size is 728×90

And he said they would do a review in the mag when I send a final finished one Whoo whoo

trout, you could use my favorite picture with the Halogen PIR lamp attached to the helmet in your advert?

Do that and I will buy a light from you. 🙂

Tinsy post the pic up for the budding designers to use and you are on a deal

Here you go, pretty sure they will all be after the MK1 version now though eh 😆

How about a simple animation of a trout leaping from the water, using similar style of graphics to the one posted for your logo.

🙂

CC.

That picture is going to follow you forever.

😀

CC.

Trout – where are you from? Nothing weird, just that I went to school (in Crofton, West Yorkshire) with a Mark Trout, and as its an unusual surname, I wondered if that was you.

trout, YGM about a light unit… use the pic, surely its not just me who thinks its highly amusing?

🙂

Yeah, its a good piccy.

How long ago did you take that picture Trout ?.

CC.

Blimey trout you have been busy! looking forward to seeing how the beamshots on this one will compare to my first gen Troutlite – how do i justify the upgrade to the Wife is the other problem …..

AM.

Good point.

However, I suspect that you may find, all you have to do is replace the LEDs themselves.

Looking at the build and spec, I'm guessing that all you have to do is replace the XP-Es with XP-Gs.

If thats true, then upgrade may be nominal.

Just an Idea. Obviously Trout would have to confirm this, before you go messing with your light.

🙂

CC.

Tinsy Thanks for the reminder

Barnslymitch
Trout is my nickname from school
last name Hadaway shortened to haddocks then trout no idea how

CC I think about 3 years was off with the man flue and bored .

Averagemark yep upgrade is just a led swap as cc says .

if you want it doing after the builds I need to do then send it back
and I will do it for the led cost only

but why not sell it and have a nice new one collectors items now only 52 ever made

Just back in from the machine shop with the
logo engraved on some anodised ones
sorry for the bad photography

Trout.

You really are the man. You're happy to upgrade a collectable light at cost. That is service !

And, that pic of your latest light is sooooo good.

Looking real nice. White on gun-metal grey looks soooooooooo GOOD !.

Nice work fella.

😀

Jesus that gun metal grey one looks good! I wish I could justify buying it!!!!

Would it be possible to machine one of those to take 3 or 4 internal 18650 batteries instead of an external pack? I'm trying so hard to convince myself I will use it enough to justify the purchase!!!

Trout.

That pic is classic now. I love the tongue in cheek atmos about it, but also that you put yourself up for it.

Very uplifting to see that logo and to know that it is the result of an STW team effort. This forum can be so great, and it seems that there are some really talented types here.

Looking forward to the Trout Ad on here, but sorry you got stuck for additional cost. Looking back on previous posts, you were hardly making much on a light anyway, now you've got the extra cost of the ad to cope with.

Perhaps we should consider that you're probably buying your components at retail prices, unlike the big boys.

Anyway, the logo is fantastic.

😀

I don't know much about electro-conductive paste but I do know that a young trout is called a parr.

I have to say I'm loving this thread.

Duckers.

Buy one and then "justify it".

Having one will make you ride more, and thats got to be a good thing, hasn't it ?.

3 – 4 18650s would be a heavy light.

Isn't there a self-contained light in the Hatchery ?.

S.

I tend to do more running over the winter months, maybe I can strap it to my fat old heed and find somewhere dark to run….

Runner ?.

Duckers, don't get me wrong old boy, but cycling is better, imo.

No shock-loading the joints, cover more ground, undisputed justification for cake and beer consuption. Obviously not at the same sitting though….

😆

S.