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  • firestarter
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    Apologies for not reading the entire thread but whats the sizing like on these?

    I would normally take a 54 id have said im 175cm tall but im thinking looking at the charts id be a 55.5

    Ive just confirmed with kinesis the reach on the geometry charts is correct so the reach on a 55.5 is shorter than on the 54. With the change in seat angle the 55.5 is still slightly longer ett but has a higher front

    Confused as looking at the size guide id fit 3 or 4 of the sizes

    firestarter
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    Bump…

    Ive read lots and it seems people were stuck size wise between 54 and 57 but they now make a 55.5

    I have a pro6 at the min with cbb to saddle top at 740mm and 40mm of spacers under my 100mm 8deg rise stem its a 54cm model but im unsure of tripster sizing

    As kinesis confirmed today that the reach on the 55.5 is shorter than the 54 due to seat tube angle and headtube length but the ett still seems longer on the larger. My current reach granted with a long fizik arione is saddle nose tip to touching the bar of 504mm

    Bugger lol if it were 54 or 57 id know for sure but 55.5 throws a spanner in the works.

    Anyone have a 54 or a 55.5 and a tape measure 😉

    brassneck
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    I’m 174cm and have a 54cm .. about 80mm stem I think, Salsa Cowbell 3’s
    It was 54 or 57 when I bought, and I didn’t think too long after reading this thread about going 54.

    I’m short of leg and long of torso (and fat of belly but thats not relevant) and the 54 feels right to me – more on the relaxed side than the stretched side, but a 120mm stem would probably swing it the other way. Glad I went 54 over 57 but that is a personal choice, someone more road biased migh have preferred the other. Not much seat post out on the 54 either – would prefer a bit more and a shimmed 27.2 for comfort, but I’m seeing how it goes for now.

    Can measure some bits if you draw me a picture 🙂

    curto80
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    The 55.5 has a virtual top tube of 560 which is the same as my roadbike. I’ll know this time tomorrow whether it was the right call but i’m fairly confident that it is. I’m 5’10 btw.

    firestarter
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    Whats confusing me is 55.5 has a ett 9mm longer than the 54 but the reach on the 55.5 is 5mm shorter than the 54. Its madness lol

    Buzzlightyear
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    5,11 and on a 54, glad i didnt go for a 57 as the headtube would sit me up to much. I bought mine when the 55.5 wasnt produced, looking at the geo im still glad i have the 54.

    firestarter
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    Buzz ive just scrolled thru and found your pic with small spacer up front and neg stem. Would you do me a favour and measure center bb to top of seat and height to top of bars and saddle tip to bar please. How long is the stem btw. Comparing my pro6 set up im thinking a 54 would look similar dimensions to yours when set up . Thanks

    Edit.. whats the standover on the 54 as i cant find any figures

    Ta

    Buzzlightyear
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    centre bb to top of saddle = 74cm
    centre bb to top of bars = 80cm
    centre of bars to saddle tip = 54cm
    ground to top of bars = 91cm

    Stem is 100mm -10 and as you have noticed i have a 7mm spacer

    I do run my saddle slightly lower than most as ive got a dodgy left knee.

    curto80
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    Hmmm, that is a bit weird now you mention it Firestarter

    firestarter
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    Thanks buzz one more please what’s the floor to top of saddle please im interested in saddle to bar drop. I have my saddle at 740mm too so its looking like a 54 is ideal

    Thanks again

    somafunk
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    I also have a saddle height of 740mm as measured from centre of bb along seat tube angle, it is 960mm measured to the floor from the rear of the saddle where my sit-bones make contact.

    I have a 100mm x 10° thomson X4 stem/20mm of spacers and a Jones Loop bar so i guess that makes my cockpit set up irrelevant as you are going to run drops

    Standover with Vittoria Voyager 35c tyres is 805mm measured to middle cable clip on top tube.

    firestarter
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    Thanks all it looks like a 54 with small spacer and neg rise stem and seat at 740mm reach is same poss a touch shorter than my current road bike but with a 50mm saddle to bar drop rather than my current 90mm drop. I think the 55.5 would fit but it would need shorter stem and headtube may be a bit too tall tbh.

    Best i get creeping round the mrs some more 😉

    Sanny
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    Bluesmartie

    I run Avid BB7s on a Fargo with Centrelock rotors and have to file the end tab off of one of the disc pads. I suspect that you should be ok on the Tripster with the Spyre and Centrelock set up.

    Sanny
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    Re sizing. I find the guidelines on the Kinesis website pretty spot on. I ride a 57cm with a 100 mm stem and Salsa Woodchipper bars. I wouldn’t get too hung up on agonising over the size too much as you can compensate for things by adjusting the saddle position and stem length and rise. If you want to set it up like a road bike you may already have, that’s fine but for me, the beauty of the bike is that it isn’t a road bike, doesn’t have road geometry and does ride differently. Off road, the longer head tube and low bottom bracket are a boon from my perspective. The more upright front end feels great and makes me wonder why I ever thought arse up, head down was the way to go on my old road bike. Comfort equals speed in my book. 😀

    TurnerGuy
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    I am in Surrey with a 54, inline post, and 110mm neg rise stem if you are near to try it for size.

    GavinB
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    Anyone around the NE of Scotland got one my Mrs can try for size? Probably looking at a 52-54.

    Not super-urgent, but she’s keen to get one in the next few months, and is very nervous of buying any bike without at least sitting on a similar one.

    firestarter
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    Thats no good without your height sanny lol

    I get what your saying but if i can make it fit similar to my road bike but with less of a saddle to bar drop with just using tiny spacer and neg stem it gives me loads of option for raising bar shortening reach with stems and spacers later. I dont want to end up with a 70mm stem and loads of spacers or 120mm stem and none. Shame ive no dealers with stock anywhere near

    Thanks turnerguy but im miles away 😉

    cloudnine
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    What bb are you guys all using?
    I must have taken the first 105 bb off and re greased 5 times due to creaking…
    Bought a new one but that creaks a bit too. Everything clean and greased before fitting, definitely not over tightened..

    Buzzlightyear
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    I get what your saying to sanny which is why ive not cut down my steerer right to the stem, if i want to i can flip the stem over and move it up the spacers, thats the beauty of the Tripster.

    Buzzlightyear
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    Using a 105 bb, covered about 3k so far and no creaking, did have creaking from rear skewer which i initially thought was bb.

    root-n-5th
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    Hi all,

    I’ve been following this thread with interest for a few months now, while trying to find another bike frame that ticks all the boxes the tripster atr seems to have covered, but at a better price.

    I’ve been tempted by the pickenflick, and would probably get one if it wasn’t for the lack of mudguard mounts. I’ve looked at aluminium frames, but I’ve never had one I liked; carbon isn’t my thing, so back to Ti where things are a bit too racy or super expensive, and nothing else seems to come close to the amazing tripster for versatility.

    There are some great bikes on this thread, and I would probably buy a frame and build it up with bits I have.

    Am I right in thinking that the price for the frame has gone up steadily over the last year? It still seems a lot to me, but I could probably sell three bikes, whose duties the tripster will hopefully fulfil, that should cover costs. The thing is, I’m bad at getting rid of things so it’s tough! Waiting for a special offer, but prices seem to be the same wherever I look.

    An old and dull question, but has anyone weighed a large frame, fork and headset as it comes when new? Interested if claimed weights are accurate.

    I’d go for a large, as at 6’1″ I like a 57 top tube.

    Cheers.

    bluesmartie
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    Can someone please explain how to post photos on here?

    scotroutes
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    bluesmartie
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    Great thankyou

    TurnerGuy
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    I think I paid 1350 for my frame from fatbirds.

    However it does seem like it is a keeper bike, which makes the cost/vfm proposition different.

    root-n-5th
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    That price seems to be the best at the moment and I guess it will only go up! It’s just that it is twice as much as I paid for my last titanium frame, an enigma, but that was about 7 years ago. I guess I need to re-assess things, but will it be £1200 better than my second hand surly cross check? That’s one of things you can’t really answer I guess.

    imn
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    @Cloudnine – have you faced the BB shell?

    cloudnine
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    No didn’t face it. I’m not actually convinced it’s the bb now.. Maybe it’s the wheel.
    Only does it under load and stops in the rain.

    Have been looking at Ti seat posts.. But don’t have a huge amount of post showing.
    How much difference will Ti make? Are those J&L ones ok?

    ff29
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    Hello Everyone. I have been drooling over this thread for weeks. I saw the tripster at the 2014 London Bike show. Since then have not been able to get it out of my mind. I ride MTB and road but have become increasingly frustrated about not being able to take carbon road bike off onto the bridleways and do some touring. Same bridleways on MTB are just to slow and tedious so ATR seems perfect to cover long distance in good time and do some bike packing.
    Go easy on me but here comes the what size frame question!
    I am 5 feet 69?64 inches (168cm) Inside leg of 30.7 inches, My road bike is 56cm Boardmans Team Ltd edition. Running a 100mm stem with 3T ErgoNova(42cm). Reach on the drops feels fine.
    Personally it feels just bit to high for me on standover. There is space but not much. 51cm ATR seems to be just on the smaller edge for me and 54 seems the logical choice, but is it? Want to run a slightly smaller stem, 90mm with Jones Loop Bar after some of the comments about slowish steering. Somafunk your bike is a work of art! Love what you have done with the dynamo hub and steering bung. Where did you get your ESI grips from? They look like the long ones? I could only find them on the Jones website. 🙂

    growinglad
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    cloudnine

    No didn’t face it. I’m not actually convinced it’s the bb now.. Maybe it’s the wheel.

    I know where you are coming from, had the same on my Rose, took everything apart, re-greased, had a new BB fitted, eventually I tracked it down to my rear quick release.

    I’ve got a set of Mavic’s on mine, changed the QR, things are much better, but not perfect.

    somafunk
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    ff29 : Cheers for the comments regarding my tripster, Work of art?….. I can only claim to stealing others ideas from around the net – it’s really just a mongrel bike as i’ve only chosen components that i wanted for it and attached them to the frame.

    I bought the long ESI grips from charlie the bike monger, designed especially for the Jones bars.

    You’re pretty much the same height/leg length as me and i guess it depends on whether or not you want a higher front end (54cm) or you are happy with a lower front end (51cm), i made my choice for the 54cm with a higher front end as i didn’t want a stack of headset spacers which is what would have happened if i went for the smaller size – where are you in the country? – there’s quite a few tripster riders up n’ down the country and I’m sure someone will let you swing a leg over to check for sizing.

    Personally i’d go for the 54cm.

    ff29
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    Ta Somafunk. That rings true with me. 54 it is. Not a big fan of headset spacers and tend to keep them to the minimum. Based in London.
    Work of art. Yes for sure in a bikey anorak way! If you say it is a mongrel it is a very classy one. Never in a 1000 years would I have dreamed of drilling a carbon fork and dremelling the headset like that. Your bike is so sorted for climbing on and doing epic adventure touring.

    Thanks for the tip on the grips. I was googling and could only find mention on the Jones website in the US. Daft considering, I got my Jones Bar from Charlie! Have ordered some grips. Intend to run the Jones bar on my 29er until I get my ATR frameset and build that up.

    root-n-5th
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    I have a dilemma. Last day of the on-one 15 percent off today making the Pickenflick a bargain. I know the tripster is what I really want, but is it worth £440 quid more for mudguard eyes, a higher front end and a more relaxed ride? Not having ridden either I have no idea. Decisions, decisions…

    cornishboy01
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    So I’ve been lurking here for a while, prompted by a desire for a Tripster ATR.

    In January some scumbags stole my wifes and mine 5 bikes from our garage. Thankfully we were insured. So began the great bike hunt.

    Beyond my mtb I had a cross bike and road bike to source. That was until I started looking at adventure/gravel bikes wandering whether combining the budgets would yield a decent all-rounder.

    The GT Grade and Jamis Renegade were the front runners until I came across the Tripster ATR. I’d never ridden a Ti bike before and was visually smitten. I rarely buy anything without tons of review trawling and have gotten adept at sorting out genuine negative comments from disgruntled individuals. Not that there was any need for that however, as I have yet to find anything even remotely negative written about the Tripster ATR, be that professional or user reviews. There can’t be many things that attain such acclaim!

    Anyhoo, after viewing all of the great pics on this forum I bit the bullet, ordered a frameset and enough components to prompt the bank’s fraud team into blocking my debit card! A week later its finished, and as this thread sealed the purchase I thought I would upload the results. Thanks for all the indirect inspiration 🙂 Now for the first proper ride!!

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8d-282Zh9DkTDN5LXRNbjZkOEE/view?usp=sharing

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8d-282Zh9DkR0VsN2RBOU9BOFU/view?usp=sharing

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8d-282Zh9DkMk90MjhQb0gwemc/view?usp=sharing

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8d-282Zh9DkbzJkaXAxVjhaalk/view?usp=sharing

    cornishboy01
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    Images for post above:

    root-n-5th
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    Cornishboy01:

    Does it ride as good as it looks? What size is that and do you find the head tube too long?

    Pickenflick or atr? Bargain vs beauty…

    cornishboy01
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    root-n-5th

    Yes it does ride as good as it looks. It covers ground quick enough both on road and off. Slightly more forgiving geometry than the cross bike it has replaced, which made me fear it may not climb so well but I live on the rather hilly North York Moors and it does pretty well in my book.

    I’m 5’8″ with a 30″ leg. I went for the 51cm frame even though the size guides indicated a 54cm. So glad that I did too as the 54cm would have been way too long in the top tube for me – even with the 70mm stem I am running. The head tube seems fine to me but I did leave the steerer a little longer than normal with a spacer above the stem as I want to be able to ride this bike long after I am no longer supple enough to lean over low.

    James_Gillies
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    So, I got hold of a Tipster last August, rode it for a few months, loved it. Then after a cold & wet January ride I managed to drop it of the roof of my car. Wind resistance yanked the bike out from the clamp round the down tube, pinching it both sides. <img src=”https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8646/16183784721_a6a6384c1b_m.jpg&#8221; width=”240″ height=”135″ alt=”beyond economic repair”>" alt="" title="" class="bbcode-image" />

    I made an insurance claim and now have a new frame. I loved the tipster but wanted a slightly different fit not offered by any of the stock Tripster sizes, so ordered a semi-custom Stoater. So here is the deal, I’ve a damaged 54cm Tripster frame and fork going spare.

    Should I try and sell it? Would anyone buy it? Is it wroth getting repaired? What to do with it

    James_Gillies
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    let’s try posting images again.
    beyond economic repair by j_c_gillies[/url], on Flickr]Dented downtube[/url]
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    [/url]DSC_0431 by j_c_gillies[/url], on Flickr[/img]

    dodgy
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    I have a dilemma. Last day of the on-one 15 percent off today making the Pickenflick a bargain. I know the tripster is what I really want, but is it worth £440 quid more for mudguard eyes, a higher front end and a more relaxed ride? Not having ridden either I have no idea. Decisions, decisions.

    I can’t overstate how important on a bike like this (for me) it is to have mudguard fittings and clearance. Your intended use is no doubt different. But many cyclists buy a new bike for best use and eventually move it to poor weather duties. For me (not you, not everyone) the massive clearance and mudguard capability is what makes the Tripster such a fantastic bike. I love it.

    I think it’s worth the extra over the Pick N Flick.

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