Tory Scum

We currently have an evil government, but imagine how much worse they’d be without the Lib Dems.

Thank god for the Lib-Dems*

*can’t believe I’ve actually typed this

SHOCK!!!

STW member posts pointlessly post on pointless thread….. to point out the pointlessness of it.

As far as I can see, the veracity with which you can take the article in the newspaper is pretty much laid out in the fact that they seem to be unable to distinguish between someone being sacked and someone being made redundant 🙄

So as usual the inevitable political “debate” ensues, along with various point scoring over who can be the most argumentative and pedantic. Meanwhile, the one person that actually seems to have any insight to this gets conveniently ignored:

Hmmm, as someone who’s just left HM Forces full time (still do reserve work), I do feel the last few governments have trousered the military.

However the redundancy selection boards have been conducted by serving personnel, not Politcians.
STW at it’s finest 🙂

tonyd – Member

So as usual the inevitable political “debate” ensues, along with various point scoring over who can be the most argumentative and pedantic.

Actually I have been stunned by the noticeable lack of the above. All the more surprising as the opening shot was “Tory scum”.

Seriously, some times the rabid kee-jerk reactions on here (from all sides of the political spectrum on STW) leaves me at a loss for words. Have a read a round subject, form a balanced view. I’m not saying mines right, but when it’s so blatantly obvious that all 3 main parties have serious question marks against them it pays to have an open mind..

+10000000000000000000 X A BILLION.

As I see it, there is only one way to solve this inane debate.
A mass fight.

All the Tories v All the Lefties v the yellow ones.

No holds barred, bare fist fight to the death.

Survival of the fittest.

Tories will win though, the lefties will be too out of shape after years of sofa skipping turkey twizzler munching, whereas ‘the scum’ have been eating all of the protein.

Simples

Agreed Ernie, however we’re only on page 2. Could this be the onset of political debate fatigue?!

Tonyd, thanks!

If I was to get political,however, I’d mention that NuLabour set the Forces up for the fall, for the ConDems to deliver the killer blow!

All as bad as each other BUT: the Forces’ own selected who was to go and when, so no politics there! As always, I’m sure it’s way more complex than it looks, with certain trades needing to be balanced, insufficient volunteers from vulnerable trades etc. And the swinging axe that was “you WILL make the necessary savings!”

Bad times for many, not just the mil I’m
sad to say.

Well the Tories on here don’t appear to be up for the challenge when “Tory scum” is screamed at them tonyd. Even I had to make a halfarse attempt to question the validity of the charge based on that link.

I’m a proud Tory. Huzzah!
I’ve given in to being labled ‘scum’ now, there’s no point in me trying to defend against something so fashionable. Besides, a lifetime as a United supporter, i’ve been labled worse.

I’ve probably a sizeable chip on my shoulder too, I just wish I was as well balanced as the lefties, with a chip on both.

Just remember folks, Jesus was a Tory – ergo – so’s his Dad.

I’m a proud Tory.

Such depravity 😐

Can’t you reduce the shame by claiming you’re a LibDem ? …….. it’s the same thing, it just sounds nicer.

Con’Dem, its’s the future, init

I’m a proud Tory.

dear me..

but made worse by..

Huzzah!

Who the **** says

Huzzah!

But I would argue that a slavish devotion to ideology, at the expense of any shred of human kindness or empathy is a quality exemplified in this country by the Tory Party.

this is it i’m afraid. The tories venerate the base desires, other parties at least attempt to mitigate them.

I vote Conservative at the moment but what other option is there……

BeakerBand Ed…. surely not??

Nah, the Dem’s are gone now, just be back to the Cons. Unless the Tories form a coalition with Nu Lab: ConNuLab. Then all the proper lefties can get on with sorting out the Socialist Worker Party into a decent opposition and all the Tories and Right-wing-lite Nu Labs can have a love in!

I voted Lib Dem, there I’ve said it. It’s the first step…

But I would argue that a slavish devotion to ideology, at the expense of any shred of human kindness or empathy is a quality exemplified in this country by the Tory Party.

another +1 here

Who the **** says

Huzzah!

erm, Tories?

Long Reign Lord Cameron! HUZZAH!

I vote Conservative at the moment but what other option is there……

Good point Frankers ……an aesthetically displeasing Ed Miliband who reminds you of a children’s TV favourite ? Or the devilishly handsome David Cameron ? It’s a tricky one. And people don’t give those sort of considerations enough thought.

ernie_lynch – Member

I vote Conservative at the moment but what other option is there……

Good point Frankers ……an aesthetically displeasing Ed Miliband who reminds you of a children’s TV favourite ? Or the devilishly handsome David Cameron ? It’s a tricky one. And people don’t give those sort of considerations enough thought.

Well I base all of my voting decisions on this…. what can I say

Come on you Blues !!

Get in there Frankers!

slimjim78 – Member
As I see it, there is only one way to solve this inane debate.
A mass fight.

All the Tories v All the Lefties v the yellow ones.

No holds barred, bare fist fight to the death.

Survival of the fittest.

Tories will win though, the lefties will be too out of shape after years of sofa skipping turkey twizzler munching, whereas ‘the scum’ have been eating all of the protein.

Simples

Not so simple I’m afraid. You have dismissed the fact that the lefties ranks have been swollen with the recently redundant working classes. Them lot that did all the manual labour. Strong in the arm, thick…..

I’ve yet to meet a tory who when pressed actually gives a shit about the poor.

I should qualify what giving a shit actually means I suppose. Yes, they care about cheap sources of labour to provide support to big businesses but no they don’t care about poverty, its effects on families and totaaly distance themselves from any kind of moral resposnibility to help people without either being condescending or imposing some kind of ‘social contract’ that turns them into little tories.

nothing worse than a working class tory is there?

I make little distinction between the NuLav elite & the incumbent mob (indeed, the ConDem propensity for handing everything over to Serco/Crapita/G4S in the name of, cough, “efficiency” simply enlarges on the Blairite vision).

Whatever the political hue, we are being shafted by a monied cabal of sycophants – most of whom would pish themselves with fear if they ever had to actually hold the line, in the various public services that they themselves so denigrate.

Tories will win though

How many are physically like Mr Eric Pickles? Maybe not so clear-cut as you think!

yossarian – Member

I’ve yet to meet a tory who when pressed actually gives a shit about the poor.

I should qualify what giving a shit actually means I suppose. Yes, they care about cheap sources of labour to provide support to big businesses but no they don’t care about poverty, its effects on families and totaaly distance themselves from any kind of moral resposnibility to help people without either being condescending or imposing some kind of ‘social contract’ that turns them into little tories.

nothing worse than a working class tory is there?

A very good point well made…. but what do you do to support the poor ?? ❓

I make little distinction between the NuLav elite & the incumbent mob (indeed, the ConDem propensity …blah blah… a monied cabal of sycophants – most of whom would pish themselves with fear ..waffle…that they themselves so denigrate

could you stop using big words please, us poor Tories are struggling to follow.

from whence does your education derive exactly?
I gotta get me some of that

but what do you do to support the poor then??

put people ahead of profits

complicated it isn’t

it does however require you to squeeze the bollocks of people who you went to eton with or who sponsor your party or perhaps companies your are ‘friends’ with. Takes guts and integrity. These traits aren’t just missing from the tories by any means, its just what fills the gap is even more repugnant than most others.

Smacks of Bureacracy incompetence to me than actual ‘save more money if we did this’.

It’ll only get worse as we don’t need a MASSIVE army if we aren’t in Iraq etc etc etc. Todays/future wars won’t require tens of thousands in a country for intervention.

As for Tory? I don’t understand. Should you also praise Tony/One-eyed idiot for ‘job creation’ then when they decided to invade countries?

How many are physically like Mr Eric Pickles? Maybe not so clear-cut as you think!

His insatiable appetite can deal devastating blows.

from whence does your education derive exactly?

I was born this way. 😈

yossarian, I trully like your new world view, but I fear human nature will always prevail, no matter the colour of the party

I’ve yet to meet a tory who when pressed actually gives a shit about the poor.

This is the crux of the issue for me.

Tory politics is the politics of self-interest rather than caring about the common good – ‘I’m alright Jack’ writ large.

It’s particularly sickening for those who have received all the advantages in life to claim to have pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps and talk as if everyone has the same opportunities they did.

but I fear human nature will always prevail

Human nature being what? Being selfish and greedy? Human beings have also co-operated and shared and helped each other for thousands of years.

wowzers.

I truly fear for humankind.

Go on slimjim – explain how I’m wrong.

whats the point, you’ve all made it abundantly clear how wrong I am.

David Cameron seems like a perfectly decent fella to me, I dont understand all this venom at all. Sounds a bit forced.

Human beings have also co-operated and shared and helped each other for thousands of years.

yet give a man/men power

Being selfish and greedy

pops up, 80% of the time, it happens all the time

yossarian, I trully like your new world view, but I fear human nature will always prevail, no matter the colour of the party

Just because you are a heartles **** dont be as stupid /arrogant to assume we all are or human nature is to be as heartless as you 🙄

arrogant, maybe, stupid – not all the time. realistic – yes.

heartless, no way man.

If you honestly believe that ANY organisation that weilds any kind of ultimate power, is not affected in some way by aforementioned human nature/corruption, then i’m not the only stupid one.

There are (probably) millions of great people in our country alone (which makes me wonder why we keep voting numties into power), i’d be amazed if any of us are infallible though