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Top Gear's Clarkson suspended by BBC
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CaptainFlashheartFree Member
BBC3 at the moment.
W123 FTW!
We all know that the Merc was the best car in that one!
JunkyardFree MemberHe’s not even that old FFS! He’s only 54.
Leave it grandad the middle aged kids are debating
grumFree MemberHad a bizarre discussion with a couple of ‘blokes’ at a clients premises, they hailed him as some kind of subversive and outsider railling against the status quo – they were clueless that he was friends with CMD and the Ginger Witch and very much an insider with some less pleasant circles. His only redeeming feature is he punched Piers Morgan.
Bantiestablishment.
nealgloverFree MemberLove it how all the “experts” on the Internet think they know best, saying it needs to be retired or changed or whatever, just because they don’t like it as much as they used to, or they never liked it.
It’s Massively successful, watched by millions of people all over the world every week.
Why would the BBC want to change it unless they had to ?
If you don’t like as much as you used to, or you never liked it, then you are not the target audience(anymore), get over it and watch something else.
The target audience **** love it. All over the world.
nealgloverFree MemberLots of people loved Hitler too.
I’m talking about the format rather than any individuals.
The format that’s “tired” and “unfunny” or in some way not as good as all the Internet experts would do.
It’s so bad in fact, that only 350 million people watch it every week.
But I’m sure the experts of the internet are correct, Obviously it needs changing 🙂
teamhurtmoreFree MemberHow does a light entertainment programme create so much angst 😉 ?
nealgloverFree MemberNo idea, I just watch it and have a laugh, and see some nice cars etc.
Sometimes it’s good, sometimes it not as good.
That is the end of it, it has no further effect on my life than that, a bit of entertainment on a Sunday evening.
It is quite funny how people who don’t like it are so evangelical about how terrible it is though.
No other program I can think of generates that sort of reaction.RustySpannerFull MemberMatch Of The Day?
Miranda?
Mrs Brown’s Boys.That’s just the ‘m’s.
🙂JunkyardFree MemberIt generates reactions both good and bad what other tv programme gets a weekly SWT thread? I dont read them tbh so no idea what you all talk about
As for why some folk find a programme, popular or otherwise, fronted by a boorish racist as a bit shit.
I am not sure why TG fayns have to ask why ,do folk not say often enough for you to get it 😉
nealgloverFree MemberMatch Of The Day?
Miranda?
Mrs Brown’s Boys.
That’s just the ‘m’s.I must have missed the weekly 10+ page threads about them ?
Either that, or they aren’t even in the same league of generating a reaction.
As for why some folk find a programme, popular or otherwise, fronted by a boorish racist as a bit shit.
I am not sure why TG fayns have to ask whyNobody needs to ask ffs.
People who don’t like it, never bloody shut up about it 😯
JunkyardFree MemberUnlike the fans
It is quite funny how people who like it are so evangelical about how good it is though and how its just a persona.
No other program I can think of generates that sort of reaction.nealgloverFree MemberTo be fair, you don’t actually see many people being evangelical about how good it is do you ?
People just say they like it, and find it entertaining, so they watch it.
Which is slightly a different level to all the Charlie Brooker wannabes, waxing lyrical about how bad it is and how it’s broken and needs to be axed etc etc.
(By the way, the repetition with the subject changed, is very much JHJ. Don’t lower yourself 😉 )
bobloFree MemberI like Charlie Brooker and I like the Philomena Cunk character as well. Just watched Weekly Wipe and it made me chuckle, a little bit.
nealgloverFree MemberI like Charlie Brooker too.
but now everyone on the Internet seems to want to “rant” Charlie style, about whatever it is that’s popular (but beneath them)
Currently that seems to be top gear.
grumFree MemberPeople moaning about people moaning about Top Gear is just as boring as people moaning about Top Gear.
DracFull MemberPeople moaning about, people moaning about people moaning about Top Gear is just as boring as people moaning about Top Gear.
JunkyardFree MemberBy the way, the side step with the subject changed, is very much JHJ. Don’t lower yourself 8)
Thought it was a bit daft to ask why folk moan like it would be daft for me to ask why folk like it. I know why I just disagree with them.
you don’t actually see many people being evangelical about how good it is do you ?
Well I dont read the threads on it but this [ and other ones about JC/TG] has a cross spectrum from fan boys, to ex fans who are a bit bored to haterz to haterz of the haterz moaning about folk moaning about the moaning.
IMHO you do find find folk being passionately for it and against it.
Again its pretty obvious why JC gets such reactions and he actively courts it.whatnobeerFree MemberUsual exaggeration about needing to “save” the NHS
The NHS doesn’t need saved from itself, it needs saved from the Tories…
StoatsbrotherFree MemberSteve Coogan from one of their previous stupidities
http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2011/feb/05/top-gear-offensive-steve-coogan
Many of us who think he should go for good, did used to like him and the show.
Sad fact is the show has become tired, complacent and repetitive. And with Lazy racism and stereotyping which is ironic to them but taken at face value by many others, including some here.
But we don’t have to watch it. But we should respect the BBC behaving as any decent employer would. That nearly a million people seem to think he should be able to be a bullying twunt to employees is sad.
horaFree MemberWhatnobeer
Who put alot of NHS trusts development in the hands of PFI’s… in 2009…
They signed alot of contracts. Yes PFI has been around for over a decade but it was a certain party that did it…to the NHS.
Oops Labour. I just said it. PFI/NHS was part privatisation.
As Matt Berry would say ‘where is your God now’!
kimbersFull MemberAnd who’s still creating PFI deals that labour are too scared to criticize
And saving from…. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nhs-privatisation-winners-revealed-11-5323549KlunkFree MemberHe reminds you of the squirt at school as he hangs round Clarkson the bully, as if to say, “I’m with him”. Meanwhile, James May stands at the back holding their coats as they beat up the boy with the stutter.
A-ha!
horaFree Memberhttp://www.theguardian.com/politics/2012/jul/05/pfi-cost-300bn
‘Most of the 717 PFI were signed under Labour’
ALL parties are corrupt or incompetent. Anyone who claims its the fault of one party alone why the NHS is being part privatised is wrong though..
tiggs121Free MemberFarage – generally accepted knob – generally condemmed as such!
Clarkson – generally accepted knob – generally loved as such!
Political viewpoints are similar. It’s a strange world!!
It is a bit sad when a tv show generates more debate than NHS, Education, Welfare State, Human Rights etc
**** me – I’ve just contributed to the whole pathetic affair!
horaFree Member(For me) – all the main parties are wrong. They always claim the other guys are incompetent/corrupt etc etc yet fundamentally they all have large elements that are out to feather their own nests whilst look innocently at the camera. We the voters buy into lifelong support because we believe in the ideology that each pedals. The story. Real political reform will only happen when its all destroyed and restarted from scratch. So anyone who says one party is better than the other is wrong.
What Cameron comes out with beggars belief sometimes. I can’t vote for him. Nor anyone in his party. As soon as Labour get their hands on the reigns again they’ll pedal the ‘we are different’ and yet still continue the country ****-up.
Anyway OT
kjcc25Free MemberDo the people who moan about Top Gear actually watch it or are their views based on what they read in the Daily Mail or other informative sources of news. There are many programmes I could moan about but once watched I just don’t bother with again and certainly would not want to comment on them. I feel many of the moaners secretly enjoy the programme or why watch it.
maccruiskeenFull MemberIt’s Massively successful, watched by millions of people all over the world every week.
Why would the BBC want to change it unless they had to ?
But if they stop now…. its still a world-wide cash cow. The presence of JC isn’t required for the format spin-offs in other countries to continue and those shows will continue to make the BBC money – even if a UK Top Gear isn’t being made or ins’t being made in the same way, and theres plenty of territories that they can yet sell the format to.
Theres also close to 200 old episodes worth of repeats that will keep bringing in syndication money for years and years to come – and theres even money from the foreign shows being sold and repeated in other territories.
My GF was at a BBC event for indy producers recently where they lay out their stall for what they likely to commission in the coming year or so. During it fairly well known face stood up – and said (and I quote in entirety)
“Format, format, format. Repetition, repetition, repetition”
Then sat down. That was it
The beeb has been happily squeezing every last drop out of format but it would be naive to imagine that in the last 15 years they haven’t had something else up their sleeve ready to replace it. Scrapping TG won’t leave some gaping void in the schedule – it’ll make a space for something else and it might be something that TG fans will like as much, if not more than TG. And theres not reason to imagine it can’t be any more successful internationally – then the Beeb would have two cash cows.
I think a lot of Top Gear haterz are actually Top Gear frustraters they liked it once but for the past decade they’ve been effectively watching the same episode over and over- they’re impatient at the format being stretched out and milked for the benefit of syndication elsewhere when they’re ready for something new. in the same way that TG was good when it was new.
horaFree MemberI think a lot of Top Gear haterz are actually Top Gear frustraterz – impatient at the format being stretched out and milked for the benefit of syndication elsewhere when they’re ready for something new.
Exactly. I got tired of it a few years back. Sometimes there are glimmers then it hammers back hard into their audience-winning routines.
It has great camera crew, great production, great creative/visual team(s), some good ideas however the burks on the screen are the ones that are now ruining all that hardwork that produces such good looking tv.
BigDummyFree MemberScrapping TG won’t leave some gaping void in the schedule – it’ll make a space for something else and it might be something that TG fans will like as much, if not more than TG
This sounds entirely plausible, and very good news.
🙂
ioloFree MemberIs there a petition to sack the bigoted, racist, self centred prat? Anyone else behaving as he did would never work again. Why should he?
I would happily sign that.ohnohesbackFree MemberAnyone who spells haters with a z replacing the ending s deserves to be flogged. It’s neither big nor clever.
As for Clarkson; has the investigation been concluded? It shouldn’t take too long to establish the facts of the case.
Malvern RiderFree MemberIt is a bit sad when a tv show generates more debate than NHS, Education, Welfare State, Human Rights etc
We’re near all in a race to the bottom. When they invented the World Wide Web it seemed a perfect chance for humans to at last access education, no matter who you are, where you are from, achance to learn and most of all share information, to mobilise on key issues in a literal instant – and all this available at an unprecedented, seemingly impossible speed, and on a near global scale. Yet after just 20 years it shows that we humans are far, far more interested in things like selfies, mammary glands, videos of people doing a poo and celebrity gossip than we are in saving/improving our situation and that of the planet
Almost like we are chimpanzees, albeit with the bigger ego. Sure, we all like to read or even give to Amnesty International or study social history for a brief time, but it’s a battle innit? This is time being robbed from the real stuff, the bling and the glitz and the baubles and the sh*t, the comparing, the ogling, the endless pi**ing contests – that is the proven stuff of dreams.
allthepiesFree MemberYup, a massive 6,129 votes at time of posting
https://www.change.org/p/british-broadcasting-corporation-sack-jeremy-clarkson
About 814,000 votes behind the reinstate petition.
MrWoppitFree MemberWhich is slightly a different level to all the Charlie Brooker wannabes, waxing lyrical about how bad it is and how it’s broken and needs to be axed etc etc.
Go away.
DickyboyFull MemberI think a lot of Top Gear haters are actually Top Gear frustraters they liked it once but for the past decade they’ve been effectively watching the same episode over and over- they’re impatient at the format being stretched out and milked for the benefit of syndication elsewhere when they’re ready for something new. in the same way that TG was good when it was new.
Not so much the same episode over & over, I can just about stomach Clarksons non science & comments about bikerists, golfists etc star in a reasonably priced car & stig runs are what they are & repetitive by nature but its just the stretched out twattery (peugeot sequence & run up to the mountain rescue for example) that does my head in & the ever so pathetic comments about “gentlemans area”. I watch it for the occasional gems & places they get to film in. I honestly think that Clarkson has had his day & should/will be off somewhere else thank god, hopefully the annoying little one will follow in his footsteps.
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