Titus Fireline Ti 29 Evo..

‘Shiny’ only guaranteed for 6 months max.

You’re well overdue a replacement by rights.

And what Mattjg means by reach is really effective toptube. Slip of the keyboard no doubt. Eff top tube is the distance when you’re sat down as its seat post to headtube, reach is bottom bracket to headtube so relevant when you are stood up. Think reach was brought into the measurement data by Transition and some others who i forget. The reasoning is that eff top tube is largely irrelevant for a bike where you are stood up hoofing down a hill. Also explains why there is seldom a reach measurement for xc bikes as you’re prob sat down more and therefore eff tt is more relevant.

It’s 18 months old and not ‘shiny’

Fair enough, why not, besides new things go faster :D. Please demo something before dropping cash though as i reckon neither the fireline nor a yelli will float your boat, even in the right size. Have a play on a Niner or Cotic if you can get hold of one. Or the Singular swift is a lovely frame and less cash.

ok yes I don’t mean ‘reach’ in any newfangled sense, I’m not up with that. I mean how far we have to reach, from a**e to bars, when sat down. If you know that, deduct the stem length you want (short in my case) and you’re then close to your ETT.

If I now have to start calculating fit when stood up my head will explode.

I’m only 5’8″ and happy on a medium Swift BTW, and I’d probably want a medium Fineline, despite Brant IIRC pointing someone taller than me to a small. I think I’m long in the arm and leg (short in torso) for my height, hence my note about choosing frame size by rider height.

medium Swift BTW

further confused by the fact a medium is the smallest they make

Sorry, wasn’t trying to be a pedantic twunt, just wanted to clarify as i referred to reach above and didn’t want to confuse him even further!

no worries

medium Swift BTW

further confused by the fact a medium is the smallest they make

Simply because Sam doesn’t think 29ers work in a small size.

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Brant will undoubtedly comment but from the geometry it looks like its been developed for a similar purpose to the Yelli, Singular Buzzard etc. In my opinion it would be best suited to a stem of 50-70mm. Google Chromag and Jinya and have a look at those videos. Obviously he is an amazing rider but ultimately that is the type of riding i believe these bikes are designed for. If that’s what you aspire to and doing something similar at your own level then one of these frames is for you.

The other way of looking at it is what don’t you like about the giant? If nothing then instead of looking at these more aggro hardtails why not treat yourself to a Niner Sir 9, Cotic Solaris….which are probably closer in geometry to your Giant but nicer* frames. For certain trails my swift feels much more fun to ride than my yelli, just depends on what i’m doing. Buy a bike that is wrong for your riding and irrespective of how much man gush there is on here about it, you still won’t enjoy riding it as much as you’d hoped. I think the Chicken Cycles blokey said that if you go to him for a custom frame he will go for a ride with you to make sure he makes a bike that is right for you rather than what you think you need.

* obviously subjective before anyone jumps on my back

This is good info. I have slacked out 120mm 29er’s and while initially great fun at ploughing through stuff they quickly loose their sparkle

The Kona Raijin with a carbon fork has my heart right now, just gorgeous – not too slack, not too steep, spot on ‘flexy’ ti frame feel, synergises perfectly with the Niner fork

The right bike for you and your trails = long-term bed partner 🙂

nooooooo, enough already of you and your Raijin!

(I am actually going to ask LBS tonight what availability is).

A Niner would tick a lot of the boxes for me in all honesty. HOwever in some ways wouldn’t satisfy my ‘change’ want list, in the same way that the On-one Lurcher Carbon frame doesn’t quite make me want to jump ship. Simply because i think both of them would feel very very like the XTC, so whilst getting a new frame, it’s almost a new for old really… So… is there a point.

I think i better leave the thread now as you’re all now sitting there thinking “why the sodding hell are you changing at ALL from a frame you have no issues with and like lots… LOL”

I think i better leave the thread now as you’re all now sitting there thinking “why the sodding hell are you changing at ALL from a frame you have no issues with and like lots… LOL”

don’t be daft, talking nonsense about bikes is why we’re here

Nah, no worries. Besides its kind of fun thinking of all the people clicking on the thread hoping for fireline pictures to find us still trying to find you a bike!

Again that’s a fair enough reason…..wanting change. What about a jones with a truss fork? Now there is a change and it’d probably fit your riding style perfectly. Anyway, good luck!

Any chance of getting a demo bike at the London Bike Show in Jan?

Well they have my 700 smackers 😈 any one else hit the button?

for those interested, brant has posted some shiny photo’s up on his flickr site….

I need and I want one…

links ?

More here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/shedfire/

Anyone would think that was a sample frame that had bits that didn’t make production. 😉

Bugger, was chuffed when i saw the plate chainstay 🙁

Bugger, was chuffed when i saw the plate chainstay

Oh no – that’s ok… that bit made it to production.

It’s just the shots we’ve put up were a previous version with different dropouts, different ISCG tabs and different seatstays.

Aaah. Had wondered why no photos of said bits… 😛

Oh no – that’s ok… that bit made it to production.

Sweet 😀

That chainstay is a brilliant piece of industrial design…

Ooooooh i’m torn… i’ve just been paid for the sale of a motorbike and i’ve now got 5 options.

1. Titus ti frame (Large)
2. Yelli screamy (Large)
3. Ducati 900ss ie
4. Ducati 748

I’m very undecided on which to go for. It could be argued the Yelli makes the most sense as it comes with forks and headset too. I’d only need bars/stem/drivetrain to get it built and running in a week.

But the other 3 are calling me too….. Weeeeeeksssssssyyyyyyyy buyyyy meeeeeeee. I hear voices.

Hooray for the fettlers elbow stay.

weeksy – only allowed the 748 if its the “R”..

fettlers elbow

Oh I like that.

That’s ok brant, I don’t charge much. Do me a deal on the fireline and call it square? 😉

Any list that includes a 748 isn’t so much a list, as an adendum to Maslows heierachy of needs, and the rest of the list is irelavent.

fettlers elbow

Oh I like that.

so much so its made it into the On-one mailshot…

Umm by rights i’d be mad to given current personal circumstances but still….

So tell me how you intend to build up your fireline? I keep wandering what forks and wheels i would get. Not that i will buy one. Definitely not. Probably. Possibly. I’ll give it a week. Or so.

Oh go on then

Arch ex on pro 2 evo
XTR brakes, shifter & clutch mech
Revelation dual air dropped to 120mm
Reverb
XT chainset with e13 32t ring & e13 xcx
Carbon Havoc bar
Hope bb & headset
Thomson stem and seat collar
Spesh Henge expert saddle
Hans damph front Spesh purgatory rear.

Not that i have been planning it……..

I’m 6ft2 and keen on one, should I go for the 20″?

Same height as you and thats what I went for.

Unusual launch of new frame from On One, with minimal info & pics on the on one site and elsewhere. Now its a waiting game tick———–tock——–tick———-tock

Any built up pics yet folks ?

Well I hit the button for one.

Any info on seat and front mech clamp diameters? Need to get my list off to Santa…

30.9 seat tube which leads me to believe 34.9 front mech