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The Daily Mail was right (Romanians content..)
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duckmanFull Member
or fingers’n’tops round the back
Eww….Keo also make a stout in Cyprus,it is minging.
bearnecessitiesFull Membercount me in binners
Is this a new unit of measurement?
CaptainFlashheartFree Memberscotroutes – Member
100 pies = 1 binner?So, does that mean that 100 Steak Bakes = 1 terabinner?
BigButSlimmerBlokeFree Memberjambalaya – Member
No surprise to me OP and a definite issue which will feature heavily in the next general election. Massive issue in France also (where I am currently posting this from) not just a UK problem.
There were a lot of racist idiots in France when I lived there as wellBigButSlimmerBlokeFree MemberShut up you fool. It’s quite funny that you keep nibbling away at posts I have made. You’ll notice you don’t interest me enough to be arsed replying to pretty much anything you post, however If you have that much of a problem with me then feel to get in touch. I’m sure I’ll be waiting a while….
hmmmmmmmm
MrWoppitFree MemberNice to have a fan base anyway, even if there’s only one in it…
esselgruntfuttockFree MemberWhats the weather like in Romania, generally? Is there much scope for biking & what’s the sea fishing like?
I might wait a couple of years then retire over there, I reckon it’ll be pretty sparsely populated by then.grumFree MemberPretty damn warm IME – certainly around the Black Sea where the beach resorts are. Didn’t do any biking but there’s plenty of hills in Translyvania – I imagine it’s pretty ‘undiscovered’ though. No idea about sea-fishing.
I reckon it’ll be pretty sparsely populated by then.
Ha.
clubberFree MemberMaybe that’s what we do. Get all the Daily Wailers to move over there given that apparently there’ll be loads of space. Tell them it’s legal and encouraged to be racist/bigoted/etc and they’ll flock there.
scotroutesFull MemberIn the middle. I don’t think the crust would hold his weight.
grumFree MemberMaybe that’s what we do. Get all the Daily Wailers to move over there given that apparently there’ll be loads of space. Tell them it’s legal and encouraged to be racist/bigoted/etc and they’ll flock there.
Judging by the comments section on the DM most of those wailing about how we’re going to hell in a handcart don’t live here anyway.
cheekyboyFree MemberWhere does Binners stand on pork pies
I hope he does
nt, unless he
s barefoot and clean of sole !!!Tiger6791Full MemberHere is what Romanians wear,
No wonder their feet hurt! and they build straight roads bet they don’t have good grips like my 80’s trainers did. Couldn’t imaging stopping and ‘turning fast’ in the school playground to demonstrate the grip in those 😯
crankboyFree MemberThose Roman sandals are not accurate. In fact the Roman caligae had iron nails for grip. Though they were reported to be rubbish for running turns and rapid stops on marble floors.
jambalayaFree MemberAll I am trying to get accross here is attempting to portray those (like me) who are concerned about immigration of the type we are seeing, its associated cost, and will continue to see due to EU freedom of movement laws combined with the nature of the expansion of the EU as “racists idiots” or rabid Daily Mail readers is a mistake. This is a serious issue and if it’s not addressed more actively by Labour and the Lib Dems it will be a decisive issue very possibly leading to the election of the Tories next year.
My specific point on France was made to show it’s not just a UK issue. Angela Merkel quoted the following stat, Europe has 7% or World’s population, 25% of its economic activity and 50% of its welfare spending.
kimbersFull MemberJambalaya you are Marie Le Penn and I claim my cinq Euros
(I will also accept my prize in pork pies, sausage rolls, scotch eggs or whatever the French equivalent is)JunkyardFree MemberThis is a serious issue and if it’s not addressed more actively by Labour and the Lib Dems it will be a decisive issue very possibly leading to the election of the Tories next year
Dont be daft the Tories will be fractured by those who are proper closet racist and vote UKIP
I think you are also forgetting all of us over there who would also have to come home.
Europe has 7% or World’s population, 25% of its economic activity and 50% of its welfare spending
We should be proud of that – all those pensioners having a nice comfortable life after working hard. Perhaps it the benefits for the disabled we should be looking at attacking those bastards will never work either…perhaps its child benefit after all they chose to have them and why should we think of the children
TBH all that stat shows [ if it is true and i doubt it]is that very few countries have state pensions
CaptainFlashheartFree MemberBack on topic if I may……
I’ve got a lovely slice of pork pie here. Proper Melton Mowbray number, with some Colemans on it. Nom.
JunkyardFree MemberMelton Mowbray – did the EU not have a rule on whether it had to come from there…..see you cannot even enjoy a meat based pastry without those bastards coming over here telling us how to make our pies *
* meat pies is not an area of which I have any expertise – I think I ate one in about 83. I have also never eaten a kebab**.
** is not a euphemism
grumFree MemberAll I am trying to get accross here is attempting to portray those (like me) who are concerned about immigration of the type we are seeing, its associated cost, and will continue to see due to EU freedom of movement laws combined with the nature of the expansion of the EU as “racists idiots” or rabid Daily Mail readers is a mistake.
The trouble is though that your opinion and that of those like you is based on so much tabloid-inflamed hysteria and confirmation bias. Eg.
@grum – personally negatively, increased levels of crime (car stolen by eastern european living in a hostel) and begging (acosted twice in London on boxing day with standrad beggar with baby in pram). Dodgy unskilled tradesmen (not directoy by me as i refuse to use them but friends had major issue with unskilled work in contravention of uk building regs). Uninsured vehicles and diabolical driving (eastern European delivery drives constantly driving wrong way down one way street knowing full well they won’t get points/prosecuted on their licenses and parking illegally as no “tow away” in my town and they aren’t going to trace a parking ticket from a foreign registered car)
To quote myself from the other thread:
I’ve been a victim of crime by non-immigrants, experienced dodgy cowboy tradesmen that weren’t immigrants, seen begging, dodgy driving and anti-social behaviour by non-immigrants. Should I conclude that there is a problem with anyone who’s not an immigrant?
It’s a bit worrying when people can’t understand the role their own prejudices play. I’m not saying there are no issues with immigration ever – but if you think it’s the massive issue the Daily Mail does then you are deluded I’m afraid.
jambalayaFree Member@junkyard those pensioners are the true golden age, the figures don’t work any more and those pensions are over. Working “hard” is not the issue it’s about saving enough. My concern is that if we don’t address the current stresses in the welfare system, which are being made worse by immigration, we will have a far inferior welfare state than we have now.
UKIP will not stop the Tories winning seats, it’s a faint and forlorne hope if those on the left and centre of politics think that’s going to help them.
grumFree MemberMy concern is that if we don’t address the current stresses in the welfare system, which are being made worse by immigration
Except that on average immigrants contribute more to the state than they receive, and more than the average UK-born citizen.
So that’s just plain wrong and a perfect example of people believing tabloid scaremongering.
scotroutesFull MemberDo the Romanians even do pies? I’m just wondering what culinary delights we can expect to follow on the way it has for other waves of iimmigration; the curry, the chinky (oops), the kebab, the pizza. Hard to imagine a high street without these now.
JunkyardFree Memberif we don’t address the current stresses in the welfare system, which are being made worse by immigration
Read grums points- its tabloid fuelled hysteria to suggest this tbh
Every single person accepts that they contribute more to the coffers than they take as that is what the research shows. I am not sure how or why you think a net contribution makes the situation worse, could you explain?derekfishFree MemberLefties ffs, they love to reel out the racist tag in any debate like this, waste of time discussing anything here.
Just vote UKIP, it really winds them up.
grumFree Memberscotroutes – Romanian food was similar to Turkish but not as good IIRC.
Lefties ffs, they love to reel out the racist tag in any debate like this, waste of time discussing anything here.
And point out the logical and factual errors in the arguments of UKIP sympathisers. But don’t let facts get in the way – you can prove anything with facts.
Still, if the cap fits….
JunkyardFree Memberlefties certainly lack the charm and wit of you derek
Wow that private education is really worth it
piemonsterFree MemberAnyway, bloody immigrants.
They’ll be moving to Scotland next……oh…hang on….
IGMC
NorthwindFull Memberjambalaya – Member
UKIP will not stop the Tories winning seats, it’s a faint and forlorne hope if those on the left and centre of politics think that’s going to help them.
Am unconvinced- we’ve certainly seen the opposite happen where division of the lefty vote has let a Tory in. (it took years in my seat before people realised tactical voting was needed to get our Tory out, for a long time it looked like he’d be the last one in Scotland) It only takes a tiny shift of votes in some marginal seats to change a result, and realistically UKIP take the most votes from the Tories. So it’s not something to presume, or rely on, but it’s a very real prospect.
teamhurtmoreFree MemberHate to disagree with a riding pal, 😉 but there is not an issue with immigration and welfare IMO. In fiscal terms, immigration is slightly positive to neutral so in effect is a mild positive for welfare (but still essentially a red herring). In the ST it also reduces the dependency ratio. Two linked positives. Second, the EU freedom of movement is a slight misnomer (much is the pity for a libertarian) and UKIP and the Tories are incorrect in the blame they place on EU legislation. As has been pointed out, there is plenty of scope within EU legislation for national legislation to restrict movement. Indeed France and other founding members are the most active in using it. Funny that one of the founding members is so anti one of the basic principles of the EU, but no surprise there.
Going back to sd’s rant the other day re the BBC programme. I was listening to it and thought I heard a member of the EDL talking judging by the comments being made. Turned out to be a Sikh living in Lancashire. Odd until you see the oxford u analysis that shows that one of the segments that does tend to suffer from immigration in the labour market is previous migrants. Still that does not counter the overall positive impact of immigration for society as a whole.
clantonFree MemberI went to my citizenship “swearing in” ceremony straight from work. So I was fairly smartly dressed – but I was probably the least well dressed in the room. As I stood there it was clear that those who were there to be sworn in as British citizens had taken this very seriously indeed – it was a matter of significance and pride to all of them. Most had come with their families and even the kids were dressed smartly, suit and tie smart.
At the end everyone tried to sing “God Save the Queen” though clearly not many knew the words before lining up to get their photo taken with the official in all his finery. We then filed out of the building feeling very proud and very British – into a running street battle between two local laddettes, just in time to see one smack her friend around the head with an arm heavy with fake gold bracelets.
piemonsterFree MemberAt the end everyone tried to sing “God Save the Queen” though clearly not many knew the words before lining up to get their photo taken with the official in all his finery. We then filed out of the building feeling very proud and very British – into a running street battle between two local laddettes, just in time to see one smack her friend around the head with an arm heavy with fake gold bracelets.
Make yer proud to be BRITISH it does
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