[Closed] Talkemada - Blocked

What did he do this time?

Why?
I haven't seen anything special he's written recently...

Yesterday it happened. According to him he has had no explanation of why by the mods and as far as I saw he did nothing that was any worse than many STWers.

Really?

Blimey that didn't take long. I thought he was doing a pretty good job of behaving himself this time.

they will re-ban folk who are obviously returned bannee's won't they?

'tis a shame, I like Fred 🙂

Maybe this rule

Any attempt to circumvent any suspension by re-registering or using the account of another forum user could result in a lifetime ban from the forum.

only if it's a life time ban

not many of them get handed out i don't think

the prawn got one

well done, fred

*slow clap*

Well he's be banned several times now under different accounts so once they know it's him they seem to ban him again.

Any attempt to circumvent any suspension by re-registering or using the account of another forum user could result in a lifetime ban from the forum.

I can't see how that would actually be done. You'd have to play whack-a-mole every time the bannee re-registered and started spouting off.

That is such a shame - I enjoy discussing/arguing/contradicting with him - he might be a bit outspoken at times but he is clearly intelligent and able to hold his own.

think you might be witnessing it in action, tron. 😀

psychle - Member

they will re-ban folk who are obviously returned bannee's won't they?

Drac - Member

Maybe this rule

Any attempt to circumvent any suspension by re-registering or using the account of another forum user could result in a lifetime ban from the forum.

Well in that case Ton should be banned - got banned under the name of Bombadillo for being racist.

AdamG registered with another name after being banned, there are many others.

It was quite fun while it lasted.

[i]I can't see how that would actually be done.[/i]

Some people are easy to spot in their persona's so just a case of waiting until they give themselves away, then there's IP bans.

jesus the torys only been in a few days and theyre taking out the lefties already

"THEY CAME FIRST for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

THEN THEY CAME for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

THEN THEY CAME for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

THEN THEY CAME for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up."

*im not sure what category fred fell into

It's been known for a while - seems odd to me.

[i]Well in that case Ton should be banned - got banned under the name of Bombadillo for being racist.

AdamG registered with another name after being banned, there are many others. [/i]

There is and they seem to have given them a chance and since have behaved. Fred has always been a bit destructive in his other names. This time I'd say he's just been a bit of an arse at times, I never seen anything bad but they had banned him.

On top of that it says 'could' not will.

Surely they are banning the person, not the "user name"? If the person comes back with another user name but continues to be a knob then he/she would be banned as soon as it was discovered. That's how I understand it anyway.

🙂

It's OK, he's full time occupied arguing about Photoshop with me by email 🙂

thought he wasm much better this tim ena more well behave dthan before. I liked his contributions and dont fully agree with the decision.
I suspect he got many many warnings in previous lifes and they just cannot be bothered with him this time...shame as it clear who he is

TJ Ton is not a racist IMHO I know him off forum. Not sure what he posted up though as Bombadillo but he does occasionally say things for a reaction.

Isn't there a general bad feeling between the powers that be and Fred? If I remember there were some personal comment made about him?

Point taken Drac and I do understand that is is Mark and cos playground not a democracy but to me this stinks - unpleasant racists get allowed to stay on the forum a stroppy get that fights these unpleasant people gets banned.

Its smacks of favouritism and unfairness.

I bet this thread does not last much longer.

Didn't a recent thread get locked down because he got a bit excited/defensive/abusive?
It's [i]their[/i] website, [i]they[/i] can do what they want I suppose....

Junkyard - he has loads of previous and used another name to post racist stuff. To get a reaction or not it is unnacepatable

IIRC Ton sent an email apologising to the mods and explaining his mistake, Fred always just provoked them more in his childish manner he often has.

Wasn't tons thread supposed to be a wind up? (not excusing it, just can't remember)

"THEY CAME FIRST for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

THEN THEY CAME for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

THEN THEY CAME for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

THEN THEY CAME for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up."

*im not sure what category fred fell into

They came for him because he was a dick
I didn't speak for him because I'm not a dick and can't be bothered with dicks
That was the last I of him or them

The problem with fred in my opinion is he just talks to much, if i come on the forum at 6am he's on here equally at lunch time or in the evening he is on here. He seems alright but he does ruin some topics. Think he should allow himself 3 hours a day and actually go do other stuff.

Ton ... does occasionally say things for a reaction.

[i]stroppy get that fights these unpleasant people gets banned.[/i]

To be fair he was a very obnoxious at times to other users and loved to play the racist card. When the mods would warn him his attitude towards them was terrible at times when all he had to do was stop.

I was not particularly singling ton out - there are many others who have been banned under one name and return under another and who have been banned for worse breaches that being an annoying little git.

Tandem, I think if you're going to call someone racist, you ought to explain yourself. We only have your word for it otherwise, and you could have misinterpreted or misunderstood what he/she wrote.

I don't care one way or the other. Just saying.

'bombadillo', aka ton, posted some stuff which appeared to defend nick griffin and the bnp at the time of his appearance on question time. I am proud to have called him a 'nazi cock monkey' during this unfortunate episode. :P. Fred was (apparently) banned for calling someone a 'little ponce' during a debate over football - dont know whether this is a temporary or permanent measure, but as has been previously stated, there are far more objectionable people still posting on here, and I for one am proud to call fred a mate and hope to see him back, in whatever guise, asap.

Tails I think that is part of the problem too, he deliberately buts into threads with is strong opinions just for the hell of it. Adding nothing useful to the forum and trying to make trouble it would seem.

What ever the reason it's their call and once again people are trying to defend him when the mods aren't going to change their minds.

there was one I recall about 3 years ago.
TJ he can defend himself over what he posts I never saw the racist stuff so cannot comment but he aint one in the real world. He does like winding up PC liberal do goooders and we do occasionally make it very easy for him to rattle our cage so to speak.

Yes Fred did e-mail STW towers frequently which probably did not help matters.
How about giving him a twitter style account limited number of charachters and limited number of posts? Nothing about football either he was highly offensive on those threads

Dorset Knob - as you can see others remember Ton making racist posts - I would have to search Tons posts and his posts as bombadillo to find them.

I'm pretty sure thgere will be a lot more going on behind the scenes that we aren't privy too...

You'll have to point out to me a post of his where he isn't doing that!

+1

He gets away with a lot.

Yet again, good riddance.

It's OK, he's full time occupied arguing about
Photoshop with me by email

*checks inbox*

Oh yeah... 🙂

Fred has sad to me that he has tried to contact the mods several times to find our why he was banned this time and non of them will answer him. He finds it strange that Ton can apologise for being racist but Fred can't even get an explanation from the Mods.

It certainly looks like double standards and hypocrisy to me. I guess I am getting rather close to the line myself now.

Maybe they're just bored of him now TJ, how many chances are you supposed to give someone?

That and they may well just be too busy to bother to try and get some rational from him. He could be a really nice guy I have no idea but he comes on here and acts like a complete nob most of the time.

I guess I am getting rather close to the line myself now.

My theory is that STW is actually an opinion monitoring system operated by the Civil Service, masquerading as a bike forum.

That would certainly explain the generally leftist attitude on here in the past, and if your ban co-incided with a change in government - the PM gets the statistics he wants to get, and nobody stands in his way!

Edit - 😆 just in case anyone thinks I'm actually serious.

Thing is drac - he was behaving Ok this time - really no worse than quite a few of the regulars. fair point tho

The thing with Fred i could never get is he seemed to be on here literally constantly during waking hours......very odd 😯

Tron - generally leftist? I find it rather right wing myself.

Would you like to borrow my tinfoil hat?

He gets away with a lot.

Thats because he is a great big cuddly bear of a man who gives lovely hugs if you ask him nicely. [img] [/img]

Guess I should really have added.

The staff don't necessarily do the moding, while they may have the overall say at times a lot of the 'active' mods are volunteers who have other jobs, interests and generally may not be around. When they get an email they will filter through the important ones I guess and Fred wanting unbanned, again, is probably not a priority to them.

TJ - you said I could borrow the hat next. Typical right wingist attitude if you ask me 😕

a lot of the 'active' mods are volunteers

[i]You'll have to point out to me a post of his where he isn't doing that![/i]

Isn't everyone doing this all of the time you tossers?

I have had to moderate a forum, as a part of my job. The problem with fred types is they generate too much work. If someone has been banned before I would have to watch them more closely to make sure they don't do it again. If they are on most threads all day then it can take quite a lot of time checking their chat history. Especially if they try to avoid swear filters and other "hot" words. Most people don't need to be monitored so you can get on with other work to make the site better for everyone else. If you spend half a day checking one person who can behave in an unacceptable way it would probably be in the interest of the forum/site to ban them. That way the site can be better for all the other members.

[i]Thing is drac - he was behaving Ok this time - really no worse than quite a few of the regulars. fair point tho [/i]

He was for him certainly, even when someone insulted him. But looks like they weren't prepared to give him the chance this time.

personally, i don't give a toss

i find it amusing that a banning results in a discussion/bun fight of this magnitude. it has more posts than most bike related threads 🙂

It's more entertaining when he's here. Just like it was more entertaining when glupton was here. And would be less entertaining if TJ got banned. That said I'm happy just to read the arguments, I'm too lazy to join in with them, so maybe that's why I don't find such people frustrating?

I find it rather right wing myself.

It's all relative. You're looking from a position somewhere to the left of Tony Benn 😉

just to clear things up a bit.

in my post as bombadillo, i asked why soft lefties were attacking a politician (mr griffin)
teej, ernie and a few others took this to be rascist.
i then proceded to wind them up for a while, until ernie verbaly attacked me saying i was a rascist.
i asked him to show me where i had been rascist ( i had not)
he failed to show me where i had been rascist.
i was banned for a week. 8)

I'm pretty sure thgere will be a lot more going on behind the scenes that we aren't privy too...

Yes there is, as Talky has just told me. Quite amusing I must say...

The thing with Fred i could never get is he seemed to be on here literally constantly during waking hours......very odd

Quite amazingly, mobile phones can be used nowadays to access the internet. Yowsers, what next eh? 😉

So you were banned for trolling by the sounds.

mrmichaelwright:

personally, i don't give a toss

+1.

I remember the thread!

Didn't know you got banned for it 😯

Blimey, best not say anything about anything again. EVER.

drac.......yes, i think.

and to this day, teej and ernie have never....NEVER...proven me to be rascist... 8)

Ton - what about the gypsies? I seem to remeber you being very racist about them.

"in my post as bombadillo, i asked why soft lefties were attacking a politician (mr griffin)" And once again ton, you're shooting yourself in the foot. Nick Griffin is not a politician, he's a nazi c**t, and by describing the people who are prepared to stand up and say so
as 'soft lefties' you come over as well, if not racist, certainly reactionary.

teej.......show me where.

and is my gran irish/roma??

mitch.......was he elected??

Think Talke started using the ponce word repeatedly again IIRC in some thread last week in a 'debate' with someone who obviously supported the Tories.

someone who obviously supported the Tories.

far more worthy of a ban than being a bit sweary

😉 <- this indicates a degree of irony to my post people, let's not get offended

Ton - what about the gypsies? I seem to remeber you being very racist about them.

he's a nazi c**t

"a lot of the 'active' mods are volunteers"

How were they chosen?

This is not a democracy.

ton - we've been there before. I dont give a fiddlers **** whether he was elected, we both know that it was done dishonestly, we both know he's a lying nazi tossbag, and what I dont get is why you seem so keen to defend him.

ton, haven't you been ringing and emailing people and threatening them after disagreements on here? That's what I heard. Naughty thing.

mitch....i agree with you, i aint defending him.
i never did. 8)

dd, who??

Yay... someones bitten.

Give them all a hug Ton...

Nick Griffin is not a politician, he's a nazi <deleted>,