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Should Theresa May resign?
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teamhurtmoreFree Member
As I said yesterday – three crap parties with three crap leaders
A tiny number of sensible MPs – but they are a minority
martinhutchFull MemberThe best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.
thecaptainFree MemberWahay, right on cue, THM: “but jeremy would…’
Of course brexit will **** up the labour party if and when they get in power. Until they wake up and smell the coffee they’ll get no sympathy from me. Idiot brain-dead clueless careerist **** the lot of them.
binnersFull MemberIf the Tories go, who fills the void….?
I’m no fan of Corbyn, but surely a majority of the countries population must now look at the utter shambles that is the present Tory party and, given what we’ve got on at the moment, think ‘could it possibly be worse?’
It may well be? Who knows? Difficult to imagine how though.
So our political system remains in this weird limbo. The Tories daren’t do anything that could bring about a general election that they’re sure to lose. But they’ve a zombie leader, totally devoid of power and authority, sitting atop a totally divided party that could lapse into open warfare at any point
Meanwhile, the clock ticks away. There was an EU negotiator interviewed on the news the other night. He said that between Mays Florence speech, Johnsons ‘red lines’ newspapers articles, and David Davis’s contradictory ramblings, they still have absolutely no idea what the UK position is on the key Brexit issues that need sorting
All those involved in the government are saying that it’s in nobodies interests to crash out without a deal. Well just because that’s the case, doesn’t mean it won’t happen.
Its getting closer by the day, and it seems like the Tory party are more interested in talking about Theresa’s ****ing cough!!!
sobrietyFree MemberIt may well be? Who knows? Difficult to imagine how though.
I’ve said many times, I’m pretty sure Jezza will make a mess of things with the best interest of the nation and people at heart.
I’m pretty sure whoever leads the Tory party will make just as big a mess of things, but they’ll do it to make their mates rich.
RustySpannerFull Membermikewsmith – Member
Exactly rusty, though that was the least if her problems. I’m sure many who have had their disabilities assessed will be very sympathetic.Mike, the irony of me feeling sorry for a woman who actively wishes to cause genuine harm to the most vulnerable people in our society hasn’t escaped me.
thecaptainFree Memberno idea what the UK position is on the key Brexit issues
That’s because there is no UK position and cannot be a UK position on the key Brexit issues. Until enough politicians wake up, smell the coffee, abandon brexit (by any means possible) and face down the fools who got us into this situation.
There are signs though. Like Eddie Mair: “when does the brexit mandate run out?” or words to that effect. He wouldn’t have asked that a year ago, it was all full steam ahead and “make a success of brexit” time.
Until then, well I’m going to sit back and enjoy the show. Not so good for those who are getting shafted in the meantime, but most of them voted for it, so excuse me while I fail to give a shit.
zippykonaFull MemberI hope the **** bitch locked herself in the toilet and bawled her eyes out all night.
She is beyond any compassion.
I always get what I want and I’m starting to get a good feeling about all this.13thfloormonkFull MemberI’ve said many times, I’m pretty sure Jezza will make a mess of things with the best interest of the nation and people at heart.
I’m pretty sure whoever leads the Tory party will make just as big a mess of things, but they’ll do it to make their mates rich.
THANKYOU.
That puts into words what I’ve been thinking for a while, far more succinctly than I could.
fasthaggisFull MemberShe’s been dead in the water since the election..
Yup.
She drank from the poisoned chalice.
She was only ever going to be the Tory scapegoat to hang Brexshit on,and she knew it when she signed up for the job.
I am sureGove or Boristweedledee or tweedledum would have made just as big a mess.martinhutchFull Member‘Theresa May is currently the most sane and reasonable option to lead the Tory party. ‘
Say it out loud. Because it’s true. Mad times.
Even if she gets knifed, it may not precipitate a general election, and even if it did, a Labour victory is far from certain. Because Labour has pretty much the same structural and leadership problems. The same back-biting, factional politics, self-interest and cliques.
dazhFull MemberI’m no fan of Corbyn
What? I thought you were a convert? Please don’t tell me you’re going the other way again. Not sure this place could cope with the 6th form stuff again. 🙂
Seriously though, this idea that the country is in the grip of idiots on either side is more patronising rubbish from the centrist we-know-best types. THM’s posts are a classic example. The fact is that whether you look at this from the right or left, the centrist neo-liberal consensus that has ruled for nearly 40 years has abjectly failed. People are poorer, life is harder, kids have less hope not more, and wealth, class, racial and cultural divides are more distinct than they have been for decades. Rightly or wrongly, the people have decided that a new solution is required, and they’ll vote for whoever offers one, whether that’s Corbyn, Boris, Ress-Mogg, Farage or whoever. The sooner the centrists get their head around that the sooner we can move on.
kimbersFull MemberCorbyns policies may be too lefty for some
however at least he seems to have built a team of competent people (blah blah Dianne Abbot, yes I know) election campaign was far better run on a lot less money than the torries, they managed something as complex 😉 as party conference without it becoming a political panto
Macdonald was mocked for his ‘preparing for a run on the £’, but that speaks of far mre forward thinking and dealing with reality than anything that weve seen from the Tories, whether its resting your voice before a big speech, not undermining your leader, continually repeating the same Brexit lies, disastrous U-turns or even having a vague plan for Brexit
johnx2Free MemberMarina Hyde on top form:
And yet … it must be must be said that for all their wanton ineptitude, and at times grotesque dysfunction, the Tories are still polling around 40%. Meanwhile, at the last count by YouGov – the firm that called the election most accurately – Theresa May led Jeremy Corbyn by eight points on who would make the best prime minister.
Each party – even given their occasionally radioactive levels of self-regard – must be privately gripped by one question: how the hell are we not thrashing this lot? Behind closed doors, both sides must surely be experiencing something of the sensation that has memorably attended various England football internationals down the years. Namely: “How is it possible we’re 1-0 down/only 1-0 up to a ski resort/country with the population of Bristol?”
At moments such as these, most England fans know all too well what that says about their side. Yet neither the Tories nor Labour – both of which can’t wait to tell you how historically useless the other lot are – seem dimly aware what their failure to put themselves comfortably ahead against that kind of adversary says about them.
Consider how each has characterised the other. Do the Tories wonder in private: “How is it possible we’re not 6-0 up against Venezuela’s commie king-over-the-water? What does that say about us?” Do Labour wonder in private: “How is it possible we’re not 6-0 up against this empty-of-ideas, toddler’s telenovela of a government after seven long years of austerity? What does that say about us?”
thecaptainFree MemberUm, they had the chance to vote for Corbyn just a few weeks ago, and 60% of them didn’t. In fact, more of them voted for the Tories.
martinhutchFull MemberMarina Hyde on top form:
Amen to that.
“Two drunks fighting in a puddle”.
thecaptainFree Memberkimbers, I hope you aren’t suffering under the delusion that labour has a vague plan for brexit.
kimbersFull Memberthecaptain – Member
kimbers, I hope you aren’t suffering under the delusion that labour has a vague plan for brexit.well they kind of do-
sit on the fence & let the Troies own the whole disaster?
thecaptainFree MemberWell yeah but that sort of falls apart if they get elected!
martinhutchFull Memberlabour has a vague plan for brexit.
Of course it does. They plan to be as vague as possible.
kimbersFull MemberHave far more faith in Starmer than Davis
really depends, Tories are crucifying themselves because they arent being honest with what they want & expect from Brexit
IF labour were in power would they start being more honest with the nation about what they expect will happen?
binnersFull MemberI bloody love Marina Hyde! She always nails it!
According to Five Live just now, the letter to get the requisite amount of signatures for a no-confidence motion is presently doing the rounds of Tory MPs
Its unbelievable to even think, but what comes next could be even worse
zippykonaFull MemberShould all Remain MPs join the lib Dems?
Is there anything more important in politics at the moment that means you back a party that you disagree with ?kimbersFull Memberbinners – Member
I bloody love Marina Hyde! She always nails it!some proper LOLs in that article
martinhutchFull MemberShould all Remain MPs join the lib Dems?
They could, but they’d be out of a job six weeks later, I suspect.
Its unbelievable to even think, but what comes next could be even worse
Exactly. Much as it pains me to offer any crumb of support to the Maybot, the alternatives are deeply unpalatable. And a change of PM is no quick route to a general election for those who support Labour.
ctkFull Memberbinners – Member
“Yeah, like the massive commitment to the ‘Northern Powerhouse’ amounted to having a root around the back of the sofa to see what loose change they found. While there are still limitless billions for Crossrail in London, and HS2 which nobody in the north prioritises over our woefully underfunded, Victorian era public transport”
Should be a massive open goal for Labour instead they go on about stopping gentrification FFS! I’d love a bit of gentrification!
thecaptainFree MemberIF labour were in power would they start being more honest with the nation about what they expect will happen?
It’s a possibility kimbers, but I certainly can’t vote for labour while they have such an idiotic policy on brexit, because it’s more important than everything else put together over the next year or two.
zippykonaFull MemberI’ve never voted tory or labour.
I live in a safe tory seat with labour a distant second.
Almost thinking of voting labour as I want that **** Grayling to have a little bit of a scare.PJM1974Free MemberThe furore over the falling membership and average age of a card holding conservative is food for thought.
Apparently, I’m the first member of my family never to have voted conservative in four generations. My family background is classic middle class Tory, but I’m a member of the Labour Party and have been for some time (thanks Ed!).
AlexSimonFull MemberKlunk – Member
seems like Rupert has decided it’s time for her to go. Who’s his favourite now? Boris, Gove or Mogg?
Whichever he chooses, it’s game over.roneFull MemberSeriously though, this idea that the country is in the grip of idiots on either side is more patronising rubbish from the centrist we-know-best types. THM’s posts are a classic example.
Best comment today.
I’m getting tired of seeing how the Tories are here and now – screwing everything up but certain posters keep that resorting to ‘there are no choices, two bad leaders and parties.’
Admit your own party has more or less destroyed itself through incompetence and being out of touch with the electorate.
From Withnail and I – “What absolute twaddle.”
Now stand aside and let Jezza give it a shot. 😉
KlunkFree MemberWho’s his favourite now? Boris, Gove or Mogg?
my guess is Boris to wield the knife Mogg for Ruperts hard brexit
johnx2Free MemberI’m getting tired of seeing how the Tories are here and now – screwing everything up but certain posters keep that resorting to ‘there are no choices, two bad leaders and parties.’
The choice appears to be which version of the 70s we’re heading back to. Hey ho.
kerleyFree MemberThe choice appears to be which version of the 70s we’re heading back to. Hey ho.
I loved the 70’s. The version I want is where people were at their happiest and equality was at it’s best.
Equality has never been as good since and equality leads to happiness.Yes, something has to give for that to happen – I am fine with that.
kimbersFull MemberTories too scared of a messy leadership contest precipitating another GE
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No one really wants to be Brexit PM, only Borris wants that poisoned chalice but most of the other MPs think hes a ….May will be ‘permitted’ to stay until the next GE or the stress gives her a genuine health scare
MSPFull MemberThe choice appears to be which version of the 70s we’re heading back to.
The 1970’s or the 1870’s.
Apart from the fact that most of labour policies are actually in line with modern socially fair democracies, it’s just a tory boy fabrication to label them as dinosaurs to misdirect from their own “Victorian mill owner” oppression.
teamhurtmoreFree MemberWow dazh, you are on a roll here
Seriously though, this idea that the country is in the grip of idiots on either side is more patronising rubbish from the centrist we-know-best types. THM’s posts are a classic example.
It’s a pleasure 😉
Looking foreword to the alternative narrative
The fact is that whether you look at this from the right or left, the centrist neo-liberal consensus that has ruled for nearly 40 years has abjectly failed. People are poorer, life is harder, kids have less hope not more, and wealth, class, racial and cultural divides are more distinct than they have been for decades.
Ah gobbledygook, not one aspect it this holds up to scrutiny – cue call for the snake oil
Rightly or wrongly, the people have decided that a new solution is required, and they’ll vote for whoever offers one, whether that’s Corbyn, Boris, Ress-Mogg, Farage or whoever. The sooner the centrists get their head around that the sooner we can move on.
Wrongly, this is what bought us Brexshit, Trump, Corbyn, Bojo etc. That is what we want to avoid. Economics didn’t fail – well only parts of it did. We are simply adjusting to two things – the massive accumulation of debt globally and the impacts of globalisation. We are ill-prepared for both. The answers are not the extremes, they simply make the search for solutions much more dangerous.
False dreams, false solutions, false hope….welcome to the new world.
mikey74Free MemberCan you imagine the press conference if/when Boris becomes PM? No one would be able to keep a straight face.
molgripsFree Membere are simply adjusting to two things – the massive accumulation of debt globally
To me this seems like a failure of pure capitalism. Banks can lend and make money, people can spend and make money, economy grows, people can repay, everyone’s happy – at first, then it goes pop of course. But to prevent that we’d need restrictions on the cycle. So, legal restrictions on borrowing? You sound like a liberal, THM, how would that sit with you? Would we be able to do anything else other than legislate?
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