[Closed] Should Theresa May resign?

She'll be pushed onto a nice strong and stable sword around lunchtime..

Yes, but she won't , well she might -

Gone by teatime is my prediction.

She should yes.

But what replaces her might be worse.

Yes she will. BoJo for PM anyone? 🙁

No ,she won the election and got more votes than the others.
The British people have spoken and given her a clear mandate to do whatever she wants.
But back in the real world I'd be more happy if she was hung from a cage outside parliament as a warning to politicians not to be evil ****s.

Strong and stable shovels should start digging a hole under the PM patio. 😉

The only thing she's won is the shittest conservative leader award.

she won the election and got more votes than the others.
The British people have spoken and given her a clear mandate to do whatever she wants

George Osborne has taken a swing at Theresa May, saying: “The worst thing she’s done in her life is no longer running through a wheat field.”

Oooof.

Can she take Nichola with her?

She should yes.

But what replaces her might be worse.

I hear there is a new face in politics, looks strangely famililar but not sure why:
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I'm not convinced she will and given how scheming the tories are I imagine if she can form a govt she will be kept until Brexit is done and then pushed out so the new conservative leader won't be tainted too much by the clusterfiddle that Brexit will be

She pretty much did last night.

"I love this constituency and I will continue to serve this constituency etc"

The only thing she's won is the shittest conservative leader award.

You've spelt shortest wrong.

Yes she should definitely go.
Can't imagine anyone is queuing up to take over though

She made a series of appalling decisions and frankly will inspire no confidence at all. However, the last thing the country needs is a leadership battle. She needs to realign the position and move forward...for now at least!

Yes. She took a slim majority, and a lead of 20-odd points in the polls, conducted an election on the basis of her 'strong and stable' leadership - remember the bus had 'Conservative' on it almost as an afterthought - was in virtually every single local campaign leaflet as well - and went after an overwhelming mandate.

And got firmly told to FRO.

Which she should now dutifully do.

And when she's finished ****ing off to the other side of **** off, she should then **** off a bit further.

Should Nicola Sturgeon resign ?

Theotherjonv's post shows he spends far too much time on Mumsnet!

BBC say she's no intention of going anywhere...
When was the last time I heard something was definitely, absolutely, not going to happen?

she should, but I don't think she will. Hubris will do that to a person

I think David Owen's book needs updating...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hubris-Syndrome-Blair-Intoxication-Power/dp/0413777278
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I think she'll go today and certainly by Monday.

Given her campaign focus, she should go.

Commentators saying (and I tend to agree) that whatever she wants, the party will 'ask' her to stay.

Very strange thing this morning, cycling to the station and after about a minute I hear music start coming from my phone. Not listened to The Undertones for ages, but what a tune for this morning, chosen at random by my phone:

[i]She doesn't know what she's feeling inside
She'll never get what she's never had
She wants to leave home but she can't get away
Always on her own every single day

Cos she's a run-around - what a total disaster
She's a run-around - she's got nothing to do
She's a run-around - doesn't know what she's after
She's a run-around - she hasn't a clue

She wishes she could live in a world of her own
Go someplace where she's not known
There's no more her to do any good
Can't get the satisfaction she wishes she could

Cos she's a run-around ...

She doesn't know what she's feeling inside ...

Cos she's a run-around[/i]

Are you sure she didn't want a man date? It's pretty lonely at the top

End of Hard Brexit if they need to rely on the votes of the DUP.

End of Hard Brexit if they need to rely on the votes of the DUP.

DUP position on Brexit, from BBC website

Democratic Unionist Party (DUP)
The DUP is in favour of Northern Ireland leaving the EU but says that Brexit does not mean "leaving Europe".
It adds that it will prioritise maintaining the CTA between the UK and the Republic of Ireland.
Aims:
frictionless border with the Irish Republic; assisting those working or travelling in the other jurisdiction
Northern Ireland established as a hub for trade from the Irish Republic into the broader UK market
comprehensive free trade and customs agreement with the EU
arrangements to facilitate ease of movement of people, goods and services

I think she has to

There are only three real issues here

1. How long will she stay not if she goes - she is a dead person walking after this - made it all about herself and failed to be either strong or stable. A terrible campaign - even Jamby may admit this now.

2. Will the PLP STFU and rally behind Corbyn - they are probably the only people as disappointed as the Tories today. They really really need to support him now and get a strong Front bench to attack what will be a weak and divided Tory party

3. Hard Brexit looks unlikely and given the upturn in young people i think it is hard to argue there would be a leave vote if we asked today - will this alter anything - I do not really know

4. How long till the next election - less than 1 mths is my guess

I think the senior Tories will cover her in fox scent and release her into the wild. It'll just be a coincidence that their friends will be exercising their fox hounds at that time.

The main positive will be that we won't see any more of her stupidly expensive and hideous shoes on the TV

She's too evil and self serving to quit.

I can see her staying and forming a pathetic and underwhelming government with the help of the DUP

Jezza, well played sir.

Position untenable. Gone by Monday. Country held to ransom by backbenchers and DUP.

Does this mean the actual future of the UK has been handed to the Irish ?

May must not go, she needs to attempt to hold the line for six months or so. However, she isn't even up to that job and is toast, if she doesn't go herself today, she will be gone within a fortnight. Biggest losers personally are those tories who have had a leadership bid recently and failed, and so maybe only Boris around in a postion to jump in. Ruth Davidson kicking herself about not going for a Westminster seat.

DUP quoted as having knives out for May. She's gone.

She absolutely should go. She is intellectually and politically third rate, and never was the person to lead us know.

The smug complacent arrogance of Cameron, and now her. And at last young people have got off their arses and sent a message. 🙂

Higher chances of a second referendum at the end of Brexit negotioations now? Last night gives Conservative remainers a lot more power... 🙂

The replacement leader candidates are (in order of likelihood)

Boris Johnston
David Davies
Amber Rudd
Andrea Leadsom

For those asking for May's resignation you should bear this in mind

Theresa May received 43% of the votes which makes her the most popular leader in voting terms.In our democracy do we replace her with someone who received far fewer votes ?

Ruth Davidson kicking herself about not going for a Westminster seat.

Can someone do both, or would she have to stand down as an MSP?

Boris wont wash with the DUP who want a soft Brexit

Theresa May received 43% of the votes which makes her the most popular leader in voting terms.In our democracy do we replace her with someone who received far fewer votes ?

Strictly speaking, Theresa May didn't get any votes outside her own constituency.

For those asking for May's resignation you should bear this in mind

I dont care what **** leads them as it wont alter my voting intentions but can you address the issue rather than doing a very imprecise and strange attack on those who are saying she has little chance of remaining

DO you still think she has not put a foot wrong with the campaign [ I think we can assume you accept all your predictions were wrong now - might want to read mine now Mr Nostradamus] and you think she is the only choice - you know address the topic rather than try and shoot some ill defined person who should be worried about the alternatives - is that Tory voters BTW

In our democracy do we replace her with someone who received far fewer votes

BBC News - 'It is the right thing that she [TM] tries to do her constitutional duty'

What's this? Some sort of formal dump at Buckingham Palace?

Boris wont wash with the DUP who want a soft Brexit

Boris only cares about Boris, what kind of Brexit he has to sign up for is secondary.

Theresa May received 43% of the votes which makes her the most popular leader in voting terms.In our democracy do we replace her with someone who received far fewer votes ?

No one is gpign to try and spin it like that not even the most ardent May supporter

It was a terrible night for her personally [ expected a three figure majority] and she chose to call the election and make it about her personality and boiy has that been seen to be a major failing.

Clearly her judgement is under question and can you imagine the EU reaction when she says I am strong and stable and the country is behind me in these negotiations

jambalaya - Member

The replacement leader candidates are (in order of likelihood)

Boris Johnston
David Davies
Amber Rudd
Andrea Leadsom

For those asking for May's resignation you should bear this in mind

Conservative insiders are apparently (according to R4) blaming David Davis for the election as he allegedly persuaded TM to hold it, and suggestions he should resign

Boris Johnston
David Davies
Amber Rudd
Andrea Leadsom

The smart money would be on Hammond, Osborne shoulda stuck around (he was very entertaining double act with Ed balls on ITV last )

At least we can all say May has played a blinder 🙂

I am sure she is indeed busy looking around to see who she can find to throw under the bus ,as a sacrificial scapegoat, to save her skin

I quite like him in the sense he has actual principles
Less sure how competent he is

In the words of one of STW's pet right wing nut jobs:

"May, the gift that keeps giving."

😆

She's going to hunker down, gordonstylee.

I'd be happy for her to stay. She can only do more damage to the Tory party if she does.

"A bloody difficult woman." 😆

This morning Theresa May looks as though she bet on a fart and lost.

Never trust a fart.

Boris wont wash with the DUP who want a soft Brexit

Boris has no strong opinions / convictions, he'll do anything to get in power.

Boris has no strong opinions / convictions, he'll do anything to get in power.

Indeed he will.

Osborne shoulda stuck around

Didn't realise he'd stepped down. Kicking himself now?

While I'd like to see May stay on, the Tories can be ruthless and there's no way they'll let her contest another GE.

Where is she ? Does someone need to knock on the door to check she's home.

I think it's funny.

Does no-one remember how she got the job on the first place? She was the only one to put herself forward as everyone else backed away from the Brexit clusterfunk - they don't have another potential candidate for the role that isn't badly tainted. It would be hilarious, if it wasn't so painful to watch the country ****ing itself.

They'll be grooming someone off the back benches while they keep her in and I bet my returning local MP will have designs on it long term. Watch out to hear more of Alex Chalk.

I'd bet on Philip Hammond for PM too

Can't see it being someone who's close to Theresa May

"Where is she ?"

On her way to the palace to ask permission to form a minority government .

isn't that in an hour and half.

I'd be happy for her to stay. She can only do more damage to the Tory party if she does.

Agreed. I think the outcome is the best possible result for Labour.

Strictly speaking, Theresa May didn't get any votes outside her own constituency.

Whole campaign was based around asking the country to back May and give her a huge majority (rather than the Conservatives). She has to go, though I don't think it'll be anytime soon. She certainly won't be allowed to lead another election.

Yep, she is going to the palace to seek permission to form minority government, can the Queen say no?

I think the party will want her to stay until the negotiations are done. Saves anyone else being tainted by them.

Though the EU might not be too keen to deal with her now her "Strong and Stable" 150 majority has gone up in smoke.

Though the EU might not be too keen to deal with her now her "Strong and Stable" 150 majority has gone up in smoke.

Brexit will hurt the UK far more than the EU, I doubt they're that bothered.

I think the party will want her to stay until the negotiations are done. Saves anyone else being tainted by them.

The trouble with that is they may not get to choose when the next election is. 3 line whip a go go.

Though the EU might not be too keen to deal with her now her "Strong and Stable" 150 majority has gone up in smoke.

I suspect that negotiations will need to be more conciliatory if May wants support in Parliament.

[quote=votchy ]Yep, she is going to the palace to seek permission to form minority government, can the Queen say no?

technically the queen[ actually the crown] asks someone to form their govt and they can ask anyone [ who is an MPP iirc] to do this

This is essentially a formality

she will be told to resign, shes a liability to a failing party, and a chap on sky tv saying an election before end of the year.

Strong and Stable My ARSE.

Hmmm might have been wrong about the DUP

seems they do like May, shes now beholden to a bunch of ultra-right wingers

not so great news for everyone

FunkyDunc - Member

Should Nicola Sturgeon resign ?

Nope - still the largest party in scotland by a long way and still the 3rd largest party in the UK. Independence is off the radar tho and she needs to do a load of hard thinking. the scottish election was very much SNP v the rest and union v independence

thegreatape - Member

Ruth Davidson kicking herself about not going for a Westminster seat.

Can someone do both, or would she have to stand down as an MSP?

She could do both but she won't. Far too smart to be tainted by running for Westminster and happy as a big fish in a small pond. Not right wing enough for westminster tory either

Should Nicola Sturgeon resign

Even using special Ruthie Tank Commander maths I can't find a way of making 13 + 7 + 4 add up to more then 35

The SNP had a poor night, they need to consider their message around if / when another 2nd referendum would happen but they are still the dominant party in Scotland