Should Theresa May resign?

It’s like a kid buying a Ramones t-shirt never having heard of them.

More like the time Jamie Oliver hosted one of his programmes in a Tamil Tigers T-shirt, as he liked the design, and thought they were an American Football team 😆

She is utterly useless and the quicker the Tory party put her and everyone else out of their misery the better. Although no thanks to Boris, Rees-Moog or any of the other loonies taking the reigns. There must be someone in the 316 they’ve got sitting in Parliament who has some kind of common sense and ideas.

i imagine the 1922 committee are meeting as we type with the general theme being “WTF”, “We can’t go on like this” , “Laughing stock”, “Useless”, “Inept”….

She is utterly useless and the quicker the Tory party put her and everyone else out of their misery the better.

No chance of that. She’s been designated as the can-carrier for the upcoming car crash/Will of the People as penance for her electoral debacle. She’s a hostage until then.

It’s telling just how stupid Boris actually is that he’s the only one in the entire party who hasn’t yet cottoned on to this, and actually wants the job. Nobody else would touch it with a barge-poll. Rees Mogg ran a bloody mile when he realised they were actually serious about putting him forward

She is utterly useless and the quicker the Tory party put her and everyone else out of their misery the better.

The problem is finding a successor. I wonder if Nick Clegg or David Milliband could be persuaded to join the Tory Party? 🙂

. Although no thanks to Boris, Rees-Moog or any of the other loonies taking the reigns.

These guys have seriously undermined her and seriously damaged the Tories credibility

it probably was the plan, but this is becoming a political car crash of biblical proportions and will taint the tory party, with any luck, for years.

These guys have seriously undermined her and seriously damaged the Tories credibility

Its been fascinating how quickly May and Corbyn have switched places in terms of the only reason a particular MP hasnt put a knife in the back is because the back is already full up.

It’s telling just how stupid Boris actually is that he’s the only one in the entire party who hasn’t yet cottoned on to this, and actually wants the job

I am not sure he does at the moment. I think it is more he wants pushing to the outskirts of the decision making so can avoid all blame and make a triumphal return once things have stabilised a bit.

I am not sure he does at the moment. I think it is more he wants pushing to the outskirts of the decision making so can avoid all blame and make a triumphal return once things have stabilised a bit.

The MPs don’t want him. He’s the Tory Corbyn, he’ll never lead the party.

Its been fascinating how quickly May and Corbyn have switched places in terms of the only reason a particular MP hasnt put a knife in the back is because the back is already full up.

Since JC lowered the parliamentary threshold for nominating a leader there’s no point in removing him. It’s over. He’s won.

and make a triumphal return once things have stabilised a bit.

I think its wildly optimistic/wishful thinking to imagine that anything is going to stabilise any time soon. The whole Brexit thing has pulled the pin out and thrown a hand grenade into the British Body politic.

Unfortunately, I think this is going to **** this country for the next decade at least. This is only the beginning. This is the calm before the storm. There’s scope for all kinds of previously unimaginable shit yet. Not least both main parties going into full on civil war/meltdown with their respective wings

Unfortunately, I think this is going to **** this country for the next decade at least.

Decade? That’s an optimistic perspective. Normally you’re a bit doom and gloom about such matters. 🙂

+1 except it’s not just about parties, real people are involved too.

I think you’ll find that the correct term is ‘little people’

To Boris and chums, this is all a jolly wheeze. A parlour game. And like all their other jolly wheezes, there’s never a price to be paid. That’s for the little people

To Boris and chums, this is all a jolly wheeze. A parlour game. And like all their other jolly wheezes, there’s never a price to be paid.

Dunno. I think Brexit has hit Boris hard. I think it’s generally accepted his plan was to lose the Brexit Vote and strengthen his own political capital. He’s done the opposite and I think that means a lot to him.

It’s encouraging that the overwhelming collective response is one of incredulousness and schadenfreude.

If she isn’t gone by xmas then I’ll donate some money to a charity of my choice*.

*I’m going to do it anyway, mind.

I think its wildly optimistic/wishful thinking to imagine that anything is going to stabilise any time soon

I did say a bit. Besides you dont need things to get better as such just to be able to disown the mess and claim you are fighting hard to save things.
Although it may be a lost cause either way I think he is looking to duck out for a bit and let things go pearshaped in a way he can dodge blame later.

If she isn’t gone by xmas then I’ll donate some money to a charity of my choice

The main reason not to believe this will be the case is simply no one else wants the job right now. The ship is heading for the rocks and the person who is going to be blamed most is the captain at the time it hits. Even if that captain took over 2 seconds prior and just had time to look at the compass and grab the wheel.
The bit that surprises me is she hasnt simply walked away.

allegedly she was led away in tears by her hubby madness that shes sticking around ! does she not realise shes only making things worse?

Oooh. Source?

Didn’t realise the P45 prankster was Simon Brodkin. He’s got previous with Sepp Blatter, Donald Trump, Simon Cowell, VW, and many other. Big balls on him and he keeps managing to do it.

PJM1974 – Member
Oooh. Source?

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The main reason not to believe this will be the case is simply no one else wants the job right now.

Agree. If it was up to her she’d have gone before the conference. The reason she’s still there is because there was no way for her to avoid it.

The bit that surprises me is she hasnt simply walked away.

I’m not sure she’s able to. Like it or not her role to keep taking the negative press and then resign before the next election – which could be quite soon!

Nervous breakdown?

The thing is, who to replace her?

There was a YouGov poll in the summer for Conservative party members that rated candidates on their appeal and how much disgust (that was the actual word used) they provoked. The only one who was more appealing than a bucket of cold vomit was Amber Rudd apparently.

There’s Boris, a man who could not tell the truth if his life depended on it and who is clearly incompetent.

There’s Andrea Leadsom, who would vie with IDS as the least intellectually able party leader, ever.

Gove.

JRM, a man playing the 1950s schtick to elderly voters everywhere, but who does not appeal to middle (aged) voters.

Phil Hammond. In his favour, as a youth he was apparently a proto-goth.

David Davis, still unable to shake off the “thick as mince” label and accusations of laziness.

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.@Niamh_NicGhabh suggested we send Theresa May some Sugru to hold up her letters. We’re already on the job. #TheresaMay

Possibly the first surprising thing about TM on this thread – she has a sense of humour

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— Theresa May (@theresa_may) October 4, 2017

Like it or not her role to keep taking the negative press and then resign before the next election

Surely though she can call it a day at some point. Possibly resigning and saying “go on then you blond bleeping clown. Lets see how you handle being undermined you bleep bleep bleep. I am off to buy a shepherds hut and write my book”.

Possibly the first surprising thing about TM on this thread – she her aide has a sense of humour

fify 😉

Jesus christ, what a bit of a mess

edit: haha, interesting auto-correct!

I am not sure he does at the moment. I think it is more he wants pushing to the outskirts of the decision making so can avoid all blame and make a triumphal return once things have stabilised a bit.

I agree this is his plan now as he knows what he claimed to win the ref cannot possibly be delivered on so he wants to be as far as possible from the mess when it happens whilst saying he tried.

Since JC lowered the parliamentary threshold for nominating a leader there’s no point in removing him. It’s over. He’s won

I think winning the vote twice [ not to mention the GE outcome] had secured him the leadership for a while.

May really is beyond parody isnt she. There is nothing she cannot make a mess of even her own speech. Its so bad I am starting to feel sorry for a tory PM.

Disappointed that jambahurtmore hasn’t appeared on this thread to tell us how wonderful her speech was today. Sad.

hahaha, just catching this stuff on the news, superb! 😆

Eddie Mair running rings around Rudd….

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b097596s

21 mins

jeebus, Rudd (wafer thin majority aside) seems like a leadership contender….
once

Gone by weekend, to be replaced by someone much, much worse.

Very funny though……

Everyone needs to hear that Rudd interview to a the end the way he lists Bernard Manning’s Johnsons gaffes is comedy gold Rudd has nothing.

If it wasn’t for Mays efforts this would have been the most excruciating Tory fk up of the day, it’s all getting a bit Trumpian

Rusty Spanner – Member

Gone by weekend, to be replaced by someone much, much worse.

Who? anyone with any ability has already run a mile. all thats left is vainglorious idiots.

Anyone who wants the job like boris is too toxic within the party, amyone with the electability and ability for the job is waiting for a better time and keeping their heads down. Unless she forces the issue by resigning then she is stuck there.

Dodger

Have no axe to grind here and too busy with work – preparing for Brexshit – to watch any of this

Even with my libertarian sympathies, I despair at the state of Uk politics. The two major parties are in total disarray and neither are fit to govern. The leaders of all three major parties are unfit for purpose too.

I cannot imagine voting now if there was an election since there is no one that I can imagine voting for. It was tough last time and then it was best of a very bad bunch. Now it’s impossible.

We are going through a challenging period – economy naturally slowing plus Brexshit – will the whole of government in disarray.

It’s pathetic in the true sense if the word. Indeed for the first time I actually felt sorry for TM today.

It’s all a bloody mess.