Should Theresa May resign?

She won’t make 2018.
A referendum on her brexit bill would be interesting as more people understand what WTO actually means. Not sticking 2 fingers up to the eu but pain and suffering as the tariffs will be paid for as an extra layer of vat by the UK consumers. Oh joy.

And BloJo has made public his support for Maybot, which means he now has the support of the 1922 committee for her replacement.

Which is utterly fabulous.

Stand back and watch it implode under them.

can’t sack her and can’t keep her, what are they going to do ? My guess is under orders from Rupert is to try and bluff it out for 2 years until the dirty deed of leaving the eu is done then she’ll step down citing ill health or something to garner sympathy then the new boy/girl will either have to stretch it to another 3 years or go to the nation (if the economy isn’t in the crapper by then)

Rusty Davies and May have been spot on in their approach.

he is looking quite rusty, isnt he

admitted on R4 this morning he pushed May for an early GE, and hes the tactical genius sorting out brexit……..

May & Davis , not just spot on, theyre both playing a blinder !

They are the same deal as the US etc have

True, except they have been trying to negotiate a better deal for a while now.

No deal better than bad deal is useless without a description of where your red lines are. Not a single word on this leaves people guessing.

igm – Member
They can’t do another election – not enough time before the A50 cut off and Corbyn might well win.

polls have him at 6-7 pt lead (thats the reliable yougov one)

I got a full maintainence grant.

I haven’t pulled up the drawbridge either and worked 25 years in fortunately well paid paye jobs. However that was in a time of largely 40% tax, once it went to 50 I left. If I had my time again I would not work in paye employment where you are a sitting duck. This is the fundamental difficulty with the study now pay later model, there is no certainty you’ll get the money back.

so, you got your education fully paid for, and **** off when you arbitrarily decide you’re paying too much tax, on the back of that education you received for free. isn’t this pulling up the drawbridge? 😯

polls have him at 6-7 pt lead (thats the reliable yougov one)

He should offer DUP a counter-deal to bring down the government! 😆

I don’t want him consorting with the political wing of a terrorist organisation. I mean just because the Tories do doesn’t make it alright. 😉

WTO annecdote. So last weekend I was helping some Swiss friends get their boat setup for a UK regatta. Local sales agent was F-ing and blinding about Brexit. So I looked up WTO tariffs on yachts. 0.8% (typical range 0-2%). So a £100k new yacht would be a maximum of £800 more expensive due to tariffs. Remember VAT is £20k. Now currency moves are much more significant but they can go both ways of course

WTO tariffs are not “no deal”. They are the same deal as the US etc have

for the many eh…

I think the general public might be more interested in the food tarrifs which seem to be between 5-12%…

edit:

seems to be more like 22%.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-tariffs-idUKKBN17M1LM

and which will disproportionately impact the poor.

good eh.

edit edit:

if it was anyone else I’d say you were trolling.

so wait, luxury yachts will be cheaper,

but food more expensive under jambas preferred WTO option

why doesnt someone write this on a bus?

its a sure-fired election winner

so wait, luxury yachts will be cheaper,

but food more expensive under jambas preferred WTO option
It’s almost as if he has put less effort into research than the brexit department. Perhaps this should be a lesson to read more than you type.

why doesnt someone write this on a bus?

its a sure-fired election winner

could turn Kensington & Chelsea away from a hot bed of socialist ardor, oh yeah scratch that Roman Abromovich doesn’t get a vote.

let them eat luxury yachts

why doesnt someone write this on a bus?

😆

I’m genuinely concerned for Theresa May’s physical and mental health, I just watched a retweet of her being interviewed on Sky from yesterday.

I’m reminded of that time when an extremely poorly Konstantin Chernenko was marched from his hospital bed to vote. Keeping May in No. 10 is inhumane…

…oh hang on, this is the Conservatives I’m talking about.

I wonder if the age of soundbite and smear is beginning to end? Politicians might have to do some real actual work in providing costed distinct policies now. I think the Tories should accept that and get on with it.

@molgrips, I think that you have made an excellent point. The established media have failed to bury Corbyn and Labour, because they have no presence in the voting demographic that has been mobilised by Labour’s policies. An expensive, but clearly fruitful tactical decision by the Labour campaign.

Here

And a slightly more prosaic view from The New Yorker:

Here.

cool -> “let them eat luxury yachts” <- cool

new J slogan

kimbers – Member
so wait, luxury yachts will be cheaper,

but food more expensive under jambas preferred WTO option

why doesnt someone write this on a bus?

its a sure-fired election winner

Can we afford buses under WTO tariffs then?

Klunk – Member
can’t sack her

only reason for that is that none of the rest want to take the blame for brexit.

PJM1974 – Member

@molgrips, I think that you have made an excellent point. The established media have failed to bury Corbyn and Labour, because they have no presence in the voting demographic that has been mobilised by Labour’s policies.

It’s not just younger new voters either.
STW gets millions of individual hits per month.
As much as I find some of the content on the political threads distasteful, they give the right wing ideologs plenty of rope.
They certainly don’t come across well.

As much as I dislike certain elements of our forum, I’m delighted that their views are documented.
The nastier they are, the more reasonable the rest of you appear.

And do you really think Jambers isn’t trolling with his yacht talk?
He must know how it comes across.
Long may he continue, it can only be to the benefit of the rest of us.

And do you really think Jambers isn’t trolling with his yacht talk?
He must know how it comes across.

hmm – a complete lack of self-awareness seems to be a prerequisite for right wing bampottery though, ha I’ll tell them I was helping a friend with a yacht, then they’ll see how cool I am and can’t fail to agree with me.

He is an experienced yachtsman, so those are the circles he moves in.
(Not a sarcastic comment, btw).

But it would take a level of insensitivity I’m not sure even he possesses to be entirely serious on the matter, so I assume he’s having a bit of fun with us.

only reason for that is that none of the rest want to take the blame for brexit.

It’s not that, it’s because if they replace her with an ‘unelected’ leader then it will be much harder for them to resist calls for a new general election, and they know that Corbyn has the momentum at the moment.

Queens Speech ‘delayed’.

Calls from every wing of the party to back the blessed Theresa.

Is this a dagger I see before behind her?

I can almost see the Tories chucking this and passing the poisoned chalice to the rest of us.

It’s been delayed because she has no support, from anyone not even her own Party.

It’s been delayed because she has no support, from anyone not even her own Party.

+1 but hardly a surprise considering the lead she squandered over the last 7 weeks. Also, you can p*ss people off in your party when you are winning, but when you start doing badly then don’t expect them to be nice to you. It’s pay back time.

+1 but hardly a surprise considering the lead she squandered over the last 7 weeks. Also, you can p*ss people off in your party when you are winning, but when you start doing badly then don’t expect them to be nice to you. It’s pay back time.

Maybot shoulders a lot of the blame, no doubt, but how much of this election was another protest against austerity?

certainly Corbyn garnered some support from those whose main objective was sticking 2 fingers up at the status quo, perhaps explaining why labour got so many of the UKIP votes back the Tories were counting on with their Hard Brexit bollox

I do say I’m enjoying all the infighting and squirming, claims and counter claims and misinformation being spouted by the Nasty Party.
The political turmoil we are currently embroiled in is fascinating.. hilarious in fact.

it’s a slow motion car crash.

From the BBC:-

One of the reasons for the delay is also believed to be because the speech has to be written on goat’s skin parchment paper, which takes a few days to dry – and the Tory negotiations with the DUP mean it cannot be ready in time.

HAS to be written on a goat. Really, it HAS to be written on a goat? One of the more stupid bits of ‘traditional’ I’ve heard recently.

The political turmoil we are currently embroiled in is fascinating.. hilarious in fact.

It is. Unfortunately, I also think it’s damaging.
Hard to see the rest of the world taking us as seriously as they used to before Brexit.

HAS to be written on a goat. Really, it HAS to be written on a goat? One of the more stupid bits of ‘traditional’ I’ve heard recently.

There was a load of talk about this a while back. Vellum.
It’s all about life expectancy.
I’ve no idea why they need this particular speech to last 500 years though, given that there’ll be another around the corner.

AlexSimon – Member

The political turmoil we are currently embroiled in is fascinating.. hilarious in fact.

It is. Unfortunately, I also think it’s damaging.
Hard to see the rest of the world taking us as seriously as they used to before Brexit.[/quote]

Agreed. We should join a large trading block to acquire the gravitas that comes from being part of a larger team.

You know the way we used to punch above our weight because we were part of Europe.

So what are they going to do with the rest of the goat? There isn’t a great goat eating tradtion in the UK? Are we going to sacrifice a goat make a offering to the gods, examine its entrails?

It’ll be a foreign goat.

There was a load of talk about this a while back. Vellum.
It’s all about life expectancy.
I’ve no idea why they need this particular speech to last 500 years though, given that there’ll be another around the corner.

how many goats must die to satisfy the Torys lust for power?

finishthat – Member

“let them eat luxury yachts”

Just quoting it because it’s too good to get lost amidst the goat chat (which itself is pretty damn good)

Foolscap goat?