Shop your neighbour?

may feel that there’s very little point in keeping strict personal controls seeing as they’ve been exposed thousands of times a week over the last 4 months

Think you’ll find the opposite is true.

If I knew who had stolen it, then I would go and retrieve it.

Laughable. You really would go an retrieve stolen goods. My arse!

Poah – yes the opposite is true but it easy to feel that. I have had exactly that emotion. Exposed all day at work to known covid. Its not easy to take precautions outside of work. I do because I realise I am the risk to others even tho they are little additional risk to me.

Laughable. You really would go an retrieve stolen goods. My arse!

If the local smack rat had stolen my bike, then yes. If he’s a bit of a rough un, then plenty of lads who’d be happy to help.

A ring of car thieves, not so much, but you’d be very unlikely to know who they were.

Yeah right you would.

@paton “Independent Womens Forum”? Riiiiiiiggggght…

OP: Simply go berserk with bombers and slay* them all.

The “the moral maze” is then passed to the tabloids to decide.

* Full disclosure – I’m all for this**.

** I’m not really.

Oh how I’d love to be as mature and miserable as you….

I’m miserable as I’ve not seen my parents since March, nearly lost a member of staff and seeing staff exhausted dealing with seriously ill patients, not helped because **** can’t follow a few basic rules.

To those saying “leave it” etc.

It these sort of views that raise the bar for what is acceptable. I commented to MrsG during Boris’ lockdown announcement that the language and delivery was very same-old. They have run out of ways to express what a scary situation this is. One thing I picked up on was if we didn’t do anything now, the hospitals would be overrun in 21 days. I understand that as people dieing at home due to no available care.

If it’s enough to start a conversation on here then it’s enough to warrant reporting IMO.

It these sort of views that raise the bar for what is acceptable.

And it is the lack of the prospect of community shaming which lets dickheads crack on with their gatherings even though they know full well what they are doing is unacceptable.

Can we introduce covid-secure pillories?

If he’s a bit of a rough un, then plenty of lads who’d be happy to help.

I’m not sure I want to live in country policed by vigilante justice and keyboard warriors.

The virus is out of control, the population is complicit, team Boris ultimately shoulders the blame, stay at home is the message, unless you fancy a spot of fishing, round of golf, stroll in the park, browse around B & Q send your kid to nursery etc. I get that but it doesnt give us the right to break rule number one. Personally I probably wouldn’t report someone, mainly because I’d be afraid of potential consequences, doesn’t mean I’d condemn someone who did.

Snitches get…. Switches

That’s right Priti Pratels new initiative is for the home guard, sorry office, to team up with nintendo to reward shopping your neighbours.

😝.

I have no memory of that and very much doubt it – but I know shite when I smell it.

Reported my neighbours three times, they have an endless stream of third parties to the house.

I dont give a **** what anyone else locally thinks about that. I doubt they have the bollocks to come and discuss it.

If you don’t believe that reporting the actions of someone that could end up in the deaths of others is valid you need to step back and have a ****ing good think about your moral position.

To not take action makes you complicit.

To those saying “leave it” etc.

It these sort of views that raise the bar for what is acceptable

No, it is people breaking the rules which does that. Someone choosing not to report it isn’t to blame for raising the bar. We’re getting dangerously close to suggesting it’s a duty to report anyone who seems to be breaking rules.

Do you have a very big and intimidating user name TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsSTR.

I had a similar dilemma a few months ago, several on here thought I should live and let live, I did and it turns out it was the wrong thing to do as they all contracted Covid. God knows who else they know had or has it from their actions.

Worse thing is, they’re still not following the simples rules, I know it’s hard, but think it’s a whole lot harder losing someone because you’re being a selfish goit.

It’s not just about catching it from others, it’s about spreading it if you’re an asymptomatic spreader.

all it takes for evil covid to flourish is for good folk to do nothing

We’re getting dangerously close to suggesting it’s a duty to report anyone who seems to be breaking rules.

If you saw someone getting into a car that was obviously steaming drunk would you report it?

We’re getting dangerously close to suggesting it’s a duty to report anyone who seems to be breaking rules.

I believe it is a duty. The choice is whether you carry out that duty. Reporting to the police does not automatically mean they have done something wrong. It is flagging it to those whose role it is to investigate a possible issue. They might find that they have actually followed the rules.

Police involvement doesn’t assume guilt.

The Swiss have a novel and creepy way of dealing with neighbours who don’t follow “the rules”, they’ll post an anonymous note through the door.

You once called me a big, intimidating bloke (I’m not particularly), now you’re calling me out saying I wouldn’t face up to the local scrotes – which is it?

Sounds like you are full of bullshit and playing the internet hard man to me. Easy to act hard online after all..

As for those that say don’t grass, would you report your neighbour if they were constantly driving their car pissed? If so what’s the difference?

What do snitches get?

We have a similar relationship with our next door neighbors, they’ve had a pretty bad attitude to social distancing and have had their extended family round for loud knees ups throughout all periods of restrictions since March… They’re alright jack.

But it was November’s lock down when someone actually called the police. Not us. Probably the family across the road with a Nurse and Her Son was affected badly by covid back in March/April, or possibly the elderly gay couple next to them…

But guess who gets the shitty looks when putting out the bins?

As for next door, their behaviour hasn’t really changed, they got a telling off by the police and have carried on having frequent family gatherings, but they’ve been spending more time at their other property in between…

So the “snitches” achieved little I suppose, but it doesn’t make their actions wrong, they at least sent the message that the community they live in aren’t happy with their family gatherings under the current circumstances.

It seems to be getting forgotten that the rules, however flawed, are there to try and minimise the risk of CV19 spread. We have a shielded person in the house and appreciate other people’s efforts to limit spread. I’ve less time for people who choose not to comply with the most basic rules whatever their reasoning…

Following the rules is a matter of personal responsibility. If parts of the British public are not getting that right then why should we trust them to get reporting neighbours right? There’s responsibility required there too, the responsibility not to abuse it or over use it.

Obviously there’s a sliding scale here, I probably would report a full on party but a bit of extra coming and going, probably not as I don’t know everyone’s circumstances. I think advocating reporting people is a double edged sword, it might stop some bad things happening but it will also create a culture of blame and recrimination. Basically, be careful what you wish for.

Do you know why drugs are illegal? They effect they have on people can be very different. One person gets a buzz and little side effects and another dies.

Sounds similar eh?

So. Would you report a drug dealer?

Mind your own bloody business

I love the idea that situations which promote onward transmission of a virus that can kill 50% of the residents in your local care home in a week, and which is indirectly damaging the education of our children, and the businesses of our other neighbours, is none of our business .

Perversely, the terror that some people have of being labelled a snitch – community disapproval – is exactly the fear that needs to be instilled into idiots that are having gatherings.

Do you know why drugs are illegal?

thats a whole different debate but mainly its because Hoover the FBI man was an out and out racist and wanted to use cannabis prohibition to crack down on uppity n******** 😉

Way I look at it, all these selfish arseholes who refuse to follow the rules simply prolong this whole sorry episode for those that do, and likely will make it worse as further restrictions are brought in.

That’s on top of them potentially killing someone via further spreading the virus

I’d happily report someone who was repeatedly inviting multiple people over if it’s clear that they are breaking the rules. Would I care if they gave me a dirty look once this is all over? Not in the slightest, as I don’t give a shit what selfish idiots think of me, their opinion is worthless

Maybe they’ve already had Covid.. and are friends with other teachers who’ve already had it.. so just sort of getting on with life a bit more. You could always pop round and ask.

Maybe.
Maybe they’ll be in room with 30 kids and no PPE in the morning.
“Popping round” won’t protect those children or families.
Phoning the school may do.

Would you report a drug dealer?

That’s a good way to end up in hospital, or worse. They generally have ways of finding out

That’s a good way to end up in hospital, or worse.

I think that’s exposure to COVID you are talking about,

Following the rules is a matter of personal responsibility. If large parts of the British public are not getting that right then why should we trust them to get reporting neighbours right?

I don’t think it is large parts of the public though, most of the country comply, or at least try to.
For us it was one household in a street of about 60 odd, and that’s why we swithered, grumbled and talked about reporting, but someone else actually bothered to do it. Part of the calculation is that long after CV19 and the police have gone, you’re going to have to live, ideally on good terms, next door to these people.

We’ve had bigger issues in the area a street party/funeral/mass brawl that apparently ended with stabbings and a crashed car just after LD2 so there’s a minority that simply see rules in general as not applicable to them. That was probably organised via FB, just like the recent protests in Clapham? More a failing of police intelligence than a lack of nosy neighbours. But it’s not the majority who behave like this (IMO/IME)…

Ultimately we shouldn’t trust people to report their neighbours, but when they do it should be handled proportionately. I’d say in our neighbors case it was perhaps a fair first contact/warning, but there’s been no follow up that we can see and it’s not really changed their mindset just made them more insular…

But like I said there’s a personal judgement that only you can make, is the potential damage to longer-term community relationships outweighed by a risk to public health? If so grass on your neighbors, if it’s just that you dislike them at least examine your motives first…

You could always pop round and ask.

Don’t do this.

Talking to family and friends about this stuff is tricky enough, bringing it up with a neighbour you hardly know is only likely to bring you grief. Report it if you think it’ll help. Don’t try and addresses it directly yourself, it’s not worth the possible hassle it could bring you, in my opinion.

Apart from all that, going around for a face to face chat with someone you consider is taking greater risks as regards transmission than you think reasonable, seems like a transmission risk that it is easy for you to avoid.

all it takes for evil covid to flourish is for good folk to do nothing

Very much this.

Selling meth to primary school kids? Getting into a car steaming drunk?

Don’t be silly. The first example doesn’t happen. The second example, still no. Although I’d probably intervene personally if really steaming.

all it takes for evil covid to flourish is for good folk to do nothing

Very much this.

^^^^ Childish melodrama, new season on Netflix coming soon ^^^^

Sounds like you are full of bullshit and playing the internet hard man to me. Easy to act hard online after all..

Oh, the irony of you sat behind your keyboard calling out someone you don’t know on the internet. Jesus