Sexism on STW (a goodbye and some thanks :) )

I do care enough to challenge the behaviour and look at the flaming I get for it. I understand why people think its not worth challenging.

It wouldn’t be the first time that Team America has failed me

Was it the sex tips? I can see how that might go wrong… especially if you were following the advanced version…

TJ, sorry but IMO you have such a tendency to go on (& on) about things that sometimes they’re almost devalued/trivialised as a result, even when your points are valid

2.5 millions posts on the bike and chat forums, and the odd person gets miffed/offended etc…doesn’t seem like a bad ratio to me.
people pretty much know what threads are going to have banter (or worse) in and they are prettily easily avoided.

Torm – you never lock yourself out of your Mum’s and had to forecably gain entry?

I was about to make a comment about cat flaps but it would not be in the spirit of thread.

fair comment scardypants

The “back doors” comment has entered the STW Lexicon as just another gag

Maybe but would YOU use that phrase on STW cougar? If you wouldn’t then you already know that there is difference between that and bombers/weeing in shoes.

edit not having a go at you, but you did lump them together. I’ve used various STWisms but not the backdoors one.

Was it the sex tips?

Nah, it was Darcy getting me to show my commitment to the cause.

Can I just say

Best Troll ever!

IGMC………… 😀

I was about to make a comment about cat flaps but it would not be in the spirit of thread

<looks for raised eyebrow smiley>

Which one is raised eyebrows?
😯

<doesn’t find>

Cougar makes a good point, too many people treat Internet forums as an exception to the normal rules of reasonable behaviour and say things they know wouldn’t be acceptable to say in front of a mixed audience in “real life”.

Mark had a similar thing to say when something similar happened a few months back and he has the power to ban users so even if you disagree, it’d be unwise to ignore this.

no elf on this thread yet?

*waves to phil*

Here’s a thought: Consider what you wish to express. Consider who will potentially be reading it. Consider if those audience members may take offence, bearing in mind that those audience members are not you . If you consider that they might, how about considering either rephrasing your statement to minimise that risk or just not saying it at all.

To be fair there’s a reasonable number of people who’ll be offended at just about anything in any situation, even rational comments. I didn’t see the comments in question so it’s hard to judge but I reckon I know the sort. I think it’s the propensity for these easily offended people to whine, or the expected occurence of that whine, which leads some people to take a “I don’t give a damn, I’ll say what I like” stance. Not putting the blame on those who are offended here, but pointing out that people are a bit sick of being careful not to upset anyone and just want to be more “themselves” (without having to be cautious not to offend). That doesn’t mean they’re sexist, it just means they haven’t taken the time to vet each comment they make as they think it’s a fairly safe place to put their sense of humour forward loosely.

6 pages….FFS

Who cares…

Cougar makes a good point, too many people treat Internet forums as an exception to the normal rules of reasonable behaviour and say things they know wouldn’t be acceptable to say in front of a mixed audience in “real life”.

And guess what? We had a thread on exactly this topic only yesterday, which ended up getting vaped by the mods because of poor behaviour. When I left it was all going nicely, so I have no idea what was said later on.

Well im not banned, and not had a warning for a while, and im not going away, anyone care.

No.

Sorry to see the two ladies going, and if i have said anything in the slightest bit offensive, to them im so sorry and offer a grovelling apology.

Please dont go.

Ps didnt see the ofensive thread lasrt night or know what it was about.

flange – Member
6 pages….FFS

Who cares…

emsz and Sue_W amongst others, apparently.

Shall I start the Fourm v’s RealLife thread again then?

the beard went, but is back again.

6 pages….FFS

Who cares…

Well said. If you don’t like the way this forum is, leave. The mods do their best but it’s the people who ultimately make a forum. If you don’t like the people you’re in the wrong place.
Certainly no need for a drawn out, attention seeking farewell or 6 pages of debate.

Has the initial rant even been graded yet???

Personally, I’d give it 4/10 but only because it inspired 6 pages of pish

<looks for raised eyebrow smiley>

Will this do?

is anyone else naked right now?

would YOU use that phrase on STW cougar?

You perhaps misunderstand me; I wasn’t trying to defend it, I was trying to explain how maybe it’s innocent to some and deeply offensive to others.

Would I say it? Dunno. Before this thread, probably, my view of comedy is that either anything goes or nothing does, as soon as you start cherry-picking you enter a hypocrisy minefield. I’m rarely (seriously) offended. Now that I know it’s upsetting people however, I’d probably avoid it out of courtesy.

Assuming that’s what the problem was, anyway. If it was general misogyny then I’d like to think I’m on safe ground to start with.

Bloody penis envy..

The Hoff is freaking me out. 🙁

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Best Troll ever!

..bit of a back door troll though.

anyway, the important stuff

camo16 – Member

What’s happened to camo’s legendary BigHitter status?

Well said. If you don’t like the way this forum is, leave

Nonsense. The forum doesn’t have a “way”, but it sometimes gets hijacked by a few impolite bigmouths who ruin it for everyone else.

Will this do?

wooaaahh !
I don’t want to sleep with him (/her)

(was more Mr Spock I was thinking of, rather then the hoff)

The forum doesn’t have a “way”, but it sometimes gets hijacked by a few impolite bigmouths who ruin it for everyone else.

then that’s the ‘way’ of the forum aint it ?

Sue and Emsz -sorry to hear you two are going, but, if you read this, I really think you should reconsider. Seriously, don’t back down to the sexist idiots. Is it really better to walk away rather than stay somewhere where, overall, you are both respected and liked?

^ This. Don’t let them win!

I have to say, I am *loving* the way some are saying the sexism is of course our fault, cos we asked for it, and should just keep quiet and get on with it. How apt.

Yeah. I geniunely thought that STW wasn’t that bad, but blimey, this thread has dragged some idiots from out of the woodwork. :s It’s a bit like when you turn over a brick in the garden and there’s loads of earwigs and woodlice underneath it. *shudder*

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I think that should be

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The other one will just give you a return code of +100

philconsequence – Member

no elf on this thread yet? He’s been lurking here plenty

probably far too busy doing “blokes work” with all those “blokes” he works with, he was telling me all about it last night. 8)

(was more Mr Spock I was thinking of, rather then the hoff)

The other one will just give you a return code of +100

Hhahahaahahahaha – awesome!

I hope this is a wake up call to STW towers.

doubtful, but the ‘report post’ function might be. it’s what it’s there for, why don’t you use it if you’re that bothered? what’s the alternative? do you expect the mods to trawl through every post on here and build a profile up of every user?