Rushup edge resurfacing

Lobbing the rocks over the wall just undermines our argument, and potentially pisses off the landowner/tenant by dumping a couple of tonnes of rubble on his land. Tempting I know, but it gives them ammunition.

Podge used to like riding bikes but fell out of love with it. Hes not a walker. Hes inbetween camps- just sits frustrated and angrily posting veiled-anti riding messages.. 😀

Sanitising trails leads to more riders on ‘foot’paths. Nowt walkers can do about that as its not a criminal offence.

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very sad 🙁

johnj2000 – Member

Amen MrOvershoot! Now on the Port

So how’s the head today?

Esme – the accident was on Stanage Long Causeway.

Have to say that I think the time has come for more direct action. Our views and opinions clearly aren’t being regarded so we need to start taking action and showing that actions like this will have consequences. Hell we don’t have to clear the whole width of the route, say just half of it and dump the spoil on the other half.

Roger – sorry, but I know nothing of any accident 😕 I’m not sure what you are referring to.

Esme – Member
Roger, it’s Rushup Edge. Just scroll down the page and you’ll see the location on an OS map.
Loads of photos on the Geograph website, divided into gridsquares. Very useful when planning rides (and walks).
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You posted this ^^^ after I asked about Edale MRT incident 90, which it seems was on the Long Causeway. That’s why I replied. I’m equally confused but that’s pretty normal for me!

@pinch-flat – are you sure? Consider the consequences. Pissed off highways authority, pissed off landowner, pissed off other users – that’s going to help our cause a lot. Time & place for direct action and this is neither.

Okay, I now understand Roger’s posts 🙄

Esme – posted this photo of Rushup Edge, with comments from a rambler
Roger – “Esme where is the route?”
Esme – “Roger, it’s Rushup Edge. Just scroll down the page and you’ll see the location on an OS map.”
Roger – “Esme – the accident was on Stanage Long Causeway.”
Esme – “Roger – sorry, but I know nothing of any accident. I’m not sure what you are referring to.”

And with that, I’m going outside to play. Good luck with your protest tomorrow!
(Sorry for boring everyone else . . . )

Oh and there was an accident yesterday somewhere else in the Peak District. Good wishes to the rider involved, for a speedy recovery.

From the MRT FB page
Incident 90 – Saturday 25th October 2014 11:35hrs
As the team were carrying out their aspirant assessment weekend, as usually occurs we decided to make it a little more realistic. We were called to assist the ambulance service with a mountain biker that had taken a tumble whilst on the causeway from Stanage Edge to Dennis Knoll car park. Due to the team being out they responded quickly and treated the biker for head, chest and pelvic injuries. He was carried by stretcher to the Yorkshire Air Ambulance for transfer to the major trauma centre in Sheffield.

“Land owner”

Do you think someone like United Utilities would give a ****?

Where has playing nice got us so far? Just more routes destroyed and replaced with eye sores- christ you can see chapel gate as a scar on the landscape for miles around. We’re not listened to, considered or respected so why shouldn’t we take more direct action? I know PDMTB have been trying hard to work things out but clearly DCC don’t give a toss so why should we let them bulldoze everything. Perhaps if they kept having to waste money on repairing routes that they had bulldozed they’d start to consider if there was an alternative option.

We need to point out that smoother surfaces will attract chavs and their devil spawn on their kiddie motorbikes.
Probably not true but should make them hate someone more than us.

Someone told me to avoid riding on WLT.

So just let the thousands of walkers slip, slide and trample along it.

I will take non-destructive direct action by lying down in the path of the bulldozers! 😛

Oh, I don’t know zippykona, somebody was doing exactly that on Totley Moss just on from the gate near the Froggatt junction on Thursday when I passed. Coincidentally that part of the track has been ‘improved’ recently.
Cause and effect obviously.

I have been out on the High Peak Trail this morning – you ought to see what the PDNPA have done between Green Lane and Friden, smooth as a snooker table and as wide as a country lane! Public authority vandalism at its worst

tinfoil hat on tinfoil hat on

DCC are doing this in an attempt to drive gravel bike and cyclocross bike sales

MTB is dead

Just back in from riding Rushup Edge today (twice). The sections they’ve not started work on were just as enjoyable as ever. Shame it will soon be no more. Although, I’m hoping (and I know it’s an extremely slim chance) that with all the noise that is being created and hopefully some media coverage this week the work will at least be halted.

I did something that I don’t ever do today … I rode the footpath along the ridge. It was actually the sensible option as that path is pretty hard packed, whereas the adjacent bridleway was a bogfest.

The lady from PDNPA didn’t see it that way, but we exchanged a polite few words. I expressed my frustration about DCC, unnecessary work, how this will make people like me make more use of footpaths. She didn’t see it my way, but at least will go back and relay our conversation. It really hit home though … if they’re not a MTBer they just don’t get it. In fact one group of walkers I bored with the story of destroying an ancient path finished by saying “at least it’ll be good for cyclists” 🙄

One more thing if anyone’s interested. In 2000 the PRoW figures in the Peak were:

Total length of public footpath 2,136km
Total length of public bridleway 293km
RUPP & Byways Open to all Traffic 30km

Source: http://resources.peakdistrict.gov.uk/pubs/sopr/sop60-61.pdf

Quite a small percentage of legal routes for MTBs and the efforts of DCC in recent years is squeezing that further (in terms of quality).

Well hopefully we can have open access laws like Scotland in the next few years.

Only one thing for this……mass trespass of footpaths by mountain bikers. Worked for walkers to gain some input into land management and stop poor bureaucratic decisions being made. This is ruining too many areas which are used regularly by a large group of countryside users. We are not a minority and we should stop being treated like one!

I must agree, we’ve by and large, played too nice for too long and its not done us any favours. Can anyone remember when Curbar Edge to Baslow got the same treatment? I just wish people had been as enraged about that back then. The rot has spread almost unnoticed since.

I do hope this results in some sort of change. If we don’t start fighting back now we’ll soon have nothing worth fighting for.

Oh sod it. Let’s just head up there, pick the rocks up and lob over the fence! Seriously, if we get enough people up there in one go we can have that lot stripped in a few hours.

No you won’t.
It’d take an army of people with pickaxes and crowbars a week to shift all that, it’s hundreds of tons of baby-head rocks and it’s all compacted in – they’ve run some heavy machinery up there.

I rode it this morning on the CX bike going up from the Rushup Edge road to the summit then down to the Mam Nick road. As a climb, all but one bit which still has some loose rocks on it is now easily clearable even on a CX bike.

As a descent it’d just be a point/shoot affair which is obviously far more dangerous as it will lead to much higher speeds.

Be aware if you do ride it as a descent, there’s maybe half a dozen sections of loose baby-head rocks which they’ve not finished compacting which are incredibly dangerous – they’ll stop a bike dead or roll under wheel and they’re actually quite difficult to walk on too, they just twist under foot. You couldn’t get a horse up there at the moment, it’d break a leg.

Saw two other MTBers on that section (one of them fixing an impact puncture from those loose rocks…) then a group further up on the BW side. I was on the FP side naturally. 🙂 Didn’t see another soul, no wardens, no walkers.

Lots of MTBers out and about in various sections of trail though, almost all complaining bitterly about the Rushup Edge work.

I imagine this work is part of the Kinder Loop “We hope it will be enjoyed by horse riders, cyclists and walkers alike”.
If so, I guess that means we can look forward to a smoother Cutgate and Potato Alley. Lantern Pike has already been resurfaced recently.

Ah well, CX and rigids seem to be gaining popularity at the moment.

Slowoldman – which part of Lantern Pike has been resurfaced? I’m not riding at the mo because I’ve had an op on my spine but that’s one of my regular routes.

Me’n’her will be there tomorrow.

email about to be sent to the relevant people.

Roych Clough has been done right – yes it’s less comitting than it used to be, but it’s still entertaining for an expert(ish) rider, yet it’s now capable of being ridden “on line” by novices, and also much more suitable for motorised traffic.

We talked to a good cross section of trail users today, walkers, horsists, MXers, other bikers, and a couple of local businesses. No one gets why it’s being done.

Well done, theonlywayisup – I shall follow your example.

I wonder if the PDNPA lady appreciates the irony of objecting to you “trespassing” on a footpath. Her employer, the Peak District National Park Authority would not even exist, but for the mass trespass of Kinder Scout (and other acts of defiance by brave ramblers).

I guess this might be the accident referred to earlier. Sounds nasty

Esme – Well said

I find it surprising how many people fail to appreciate this

I must agree, we’ve by and large, played too nice for too long and its not done us any favours. Can anyone remember when Curbar Edge to Baslow got the same treatment? I just wish people had been as enraged about that back then. The rot has spread almost unnoticed since.

I do hope this results in some sort of change. If we don’t start fighting back now we’ll soon have nothing worth fighting for.

unfortunately its a divided community divided between the wanna do something more if needed and the handringers

Slowoldman – which part of Lantern Pike has been resurfaced? I’m not riding at the mo because I’ve had an op on my spine but that’s one of my regular routes.

Didn’t see any bit that had been resurfaced when I rode there yesterday

Slowoldman – which part of Lantern Pike has been resurfaced? I’m not riding at the mo because I’ve had an op on my spine but that’s one of my regular routes.

I think the ‘Lantern Pike resurfacing’ is in reference to the Aspenshaw Hall bridleway that was resurfaced back in February with tarmac chippings. Can give you the location if needed.

The southern stretch down to Hayfield was smoothed out (I think last year some time).

No not Aspenhall. The stretch of the Pennine Bridleway coming down south off Lantern Pike. It used to be gnarlier than it now is.

Is anyone on here a health and safety expert? Can we ask to see the risk assessments and all that other guff that is involved with anything these days.
What about the impact the works will have on wild life?
Can you ride anywhere on the surrounding land? If not can we get up their in our fluro jackets ,hard hats, megaphones and shout at walkers who stray from the path.
We need to red tape the works to a stand still. Do workers a long way from habitation have to be provided with toilet facilities? They can’t be expected to pee behind a bush.
Operation Pain In The Arse is go.

http://www.mtbe.co.uk/be-careful-on-the-stanage-pole-decent-t49773.html?sid=356af8e45dfce90f70af0ead4a9ce4a8

That sounds like like a terrible accident, grounds to remove the “fixes” they’ve put in place ?

Sounds like a terrible accident that could happen to any of us. I wish him a speedy recovery. However, DCC will blame it on his speed which was entirely under his control. Pretty sure “strava red mist” isn’t going to do him any favours.

Gutted I can’t be at the picnic but heartened by the response on here.

Wow the DCC facebook page is going to give someone a headache on Monday morn! Great work. I think the posts to page are quite well hidden on the side, so just been lolling at the replies to the main page posts! Very visible and effective 😆