Rishi! Sunak!

picking a Cabinet of greatest skill

There hasn’t been anyone with worthwhile skills in the Cabinet for 5+ years.

A bunch of chancers, self-serving ****, spivs and lackies certainly but no-one with any tangible skills.

The only qualifications required for cabinet membership are enthusiasm for Brexit (which by definition makes you an idiot) and unquestioning loyalty to the boss, no matter what they get up too

Just look at what are referred to as ‘The Great Offices of State’ then look at the absolute weapons who have occupied those positions over the last 6 years

Is it any wonder the country is ****ed?

Unimpressed with sunak’s speech.
No reference to the biggest single drag on UK economic performance – yes, it’s that there Brexit again.
I have contacts in a number of local authorities and they are deeply concerned about the size of cuts which they anticipate being imposed.
This is going to be painful.

The only cabinet minister who seems competent is Ben Wallace. That we don’t hear about him too much is probably a good sign

No reference to the biggest single drag on UK economic performance – yes, it’s that there Brexit again.

Nothing will change until someone in Government finally holds their hand up and admits that everything about Brexit was and is a total disaster.

Even Starmer is only saying he’ll look to renegotiate it and “make it work”.

While that millstone is around the UK’s neck, nothing will change. We can lurch from austerity to tax rises to greater borrowing and back to austerity, the Tory party can change leaders every couple of months, but nothing will fix Brexit.

Every underlying issue now (including the constant changes of Cabinet and leadership with the Tory party) are either a direct result of Brexit or great deal worse than they could have been because of it.

brabdon lewis’s resignation statement refers to having held ‘…eight ministerial roles, across five departments, under four prime ministers’.
What was he doing last year??

The only cabinet minister who seems competent is Ben Wallace.

the same one that backed boris? that one? competent?

Nothing will change until someone in Government finally holds their hand up and admits that everything about Brexit was and is a total disaster.

Realistically, the labour government after the next one?

The Torys aren’t going to revisit it, it would be political suicide for Labour to revisit it, so we’re at least 3-4 election cycles off.

If you can’t mention Brexit then everything else is bullsh*t.

The first rule of British politics is that you can’t mention Brexit. The second rule of British politics is….

I was going to say this isn’t fight club but it quite evidently is.

If you can’t mention Brexit then everything else is bullsh*t.

Yup. The whole leave bullshit referendum has utterly poisoned the well. All the “leading” Tories are being described by the MSM as “Brexiteer”. It’s their defining cult.

There is no sensible discussion to be had yet.

Realistically, the labour government after the next one?

Yeah. Probably that. And before that…

This Tory gov, 2 years.
Starmer’s Lab gov, 5 years.
The next Tory gov, 5 years.

We have about 12 years before we can even **begin** to de-Brexit ourselves?

And anypne who thinks that Sunaks annointment is good for racial harmony needs their head checking.

Beyond any fallacy that he has been elected to be PM, just wait until the trade deal with India is done. India wants visas for its citizens to come to Britain, lots of them.

How is that going to be squared with the Brexit mob? And more broadly, the optics will look like MP’s of Indian (East African) origin doing everything they can to deport black people to Rwanda and the Caribbean in order to make space for Indian immigrants.

We have about 12 years before we can even **begin** to de-Brexit ourselves?

Yup.

In the meantime we can make changes that will reduce divergence, not least for the sake of everyone living in NI (as well as food security and costs for everyone on the mainland). Yesterday the ERG had a boring press conference where they said they were reassured by both (at the time) candidates to be leader that they would be “tough” when it comes to sorting out the NIP. Doesn’t bode well.

Resignations or sackings – doesn’t matter but they’re coming thick and fast; buckland, berry malthouse, jayawardena in the past 30 mins.
This could lead to much bad blood on backbenches.
Interesting times!
EDIT: also deeply concerning.

@inkster the optics already look like that

The printers of HoC paper must be making a bomb at the moment.
I’m just hoping that with the exit of mogg, his idiotic brexit eu laws subset bill will be gone too

I was going to say this isn’t fight club but it quite evidently is.

So Who’s Tyler Durdon? Or rather who’s Head is he living in?

Was ‘Brexit’ really ‘Project Mayhem’ all along?

Yep that follows…

Starmer cannot mention the ‘B’ word as he’d instantly lose White Van Man, retired codger and Essex lady. There is still a huge number of people who think leaving Europe was the best thing this century. Melts.

This supposed ‘Government of all the Talents’ looks very much like the same old tired gang of Brexiteer ****-wits to me

Starmer’s Lab gov, 5 years.

I very much doubt that Starmer will last 5 years as PM. I would expect Labour to replace him pretty quickly once in power. The huge thirty plus Labour leads are down to Liz Truss, not Starmer.

Whilst sitting back and letting the Tories eat themselves when in opposition it won’t work when in government – Tory open goals won’t govern the country.

Starmer took 3 days before he gave a TV interview attacking the Tories’s now infamous mini budget, that sort of indecisiveness might work for the leader of the Opposition but it won’t work for the office of prime minister.

If Tory support totally collapses at the next general election, as all recent polls have suggested, and Labour wins a mindboggling 150-300 seat majority it will be a huge headache for Starmer – discipline within the Parliamentary Labour Party will be a nightmare to maintain, I expect endless Labour rebellions.

I might be wrong mind and once installed into Number 10 Starmer might metamorphosis into an inspirational authoritative leader and Prime Minister, with a vision which unites the party. I doubt it though.

Cabinet is looking a huge amount like rearranging the deckchairs on the titanic.
6 months tops for this gov

6 months tops for this gov

Optimistic!

They’ll hang on for the full term.

James Cleverly stays as Foreign Sec….that says all you need to know. No change…A cabinet full of talentless idiots. Surely there’s someone better in the Tory party to hold one of the most important jobs?

On the plus side the toxic beanpole has gone.

Cabinet is looking a huge amount like rearranging the deckchairs on the titanic.

same old tired gang of Brexiteer ****-wits

No disagreement here.

In a short farewell speech earlier, Liz Truss defended her legacy of trying to push through tax cuts

So, like, the legacy that was essentially “one massive fail” ?

I mean, that’s actually failing at noticing you failed. Fail, squared.

Starmer thread >>>
This one is for sunak.

Good few of the libertarian right-wingers are getting some senior cabinet roles. More austerity and beatings by the police then. Still at least the rich will be able to trickle down onto us.

Yeah, I just don’t care Frank. Proper rebel I am…… I break all the rules.

“Surely there’s someone better in the Tory party to hold one of the most important jobs?”

Sure there is but they’ll all be remainers won’t they?

I think it’s dawning on us that being a grown up isn’t sufficient to stop us from tumbling off the cliff edge.

What the country needs right now are politicians who are able to distinguish between a unicorn and an elephant.

I see the poisonous foreigner hater is back as home secretary

Yup, Cruella de Braverthick is back, large and in charge. Awesomes.

What the country needs right now are politicians who are able to distinguish between a unicorn and an elephant.

One is an imaginary creature, and the other one is something I have one of for everybody who voted for Brexshit?

I see the poisonous foreigner hater is back as home secretary

I thought Sunak might be the grown up, rising above the need to pander to the Daily Mail. Clearly not though. The appointment of that terrible human being has shown he really is just a nasty Tory.

She really is an appalling, cruel and nasty person who should never serve in public office, let along as Home Sec.

Hmmm. So I like the fact he’s mixed loyalties perhaps preferring expertise over loyalty. I’m nervous of Braverman, having a Doh! moment at Raab’s re-entry onto the front bench, and surprised Mourdant hasn’t been given a role.

Its at times like these that I like to pinch my nose and have a look at the Daily Mail comments pages to get a feel for what the Tory voters think. Luckily I work for a organisation who blocks the Daily Mail as inappropriate content. I’m quite proud of them for that!

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braverman – bad for migrants and human rights; good for brexiters.
raab – bad for legal profession and human rights.
cleverley and zahawi – just bad.
shapps – if he’s the answer or solution, what can the question or problem be??
dowden – why?
This re-shuffle looks like nothing more than a re-tread.

EDIT: if gove gets an appointment that will be putting a fox in the hen house.

While I concede that he has to pander to the erg / Brexit loving / daily mail reading voter and more importantly MP’s , it sickens me to see her back in that roll.

The current confirmed cabinet just shows that the party, and government are stuck in a rut they are either unwilling or unable (or both) to get out of.

shapps – if he’s the answer or solution, what can the question or problem be??

The only question to which Grant Shapps is the answer is ‘Who is Michael Green?’

Meet the new boss

Same as the old boss

Looks like Suella will get to realise her dream after all

A PM who is the child of immigrants and a Home Secretary who’s also the child of immigrants will now get on with their ‘dream’ deporting immigrants to Rwanda

How frightfully progressive

I felt sick when Suella was announced.

Same old, same old. Tories going to Tory.