Rishi! Sunak!

Lee Anderson not able to contain his inner 8 year old in that R4 interview.

What a **** that man is.

Speaking of ****s, Tory knuckle-dragger Gullis being interviewed and trying to make out this was all fine and part of Rishi’s masterplan was pretty priceless 😂

Speaking of ****s, Tory knuckle-dragger Gullis being interviewed and trying to make out this was all fine and part of Rishi’s masterplan was pretty priceless 😂

His masterplan is to become a Silicon Valley tech-bro and make lots of money so his father-in-law won’t keep looking at him likes he’s a drain on family resources and a waste of space.

So, maybe everything is going according to plan?

Gullis is my hometown MP. I’m going to go and watch the results in person and give him the wave off he deserves when he loses. Genuinely can’t wait!

Who’s the current no mark on Radio4? Clearly thinks that the Rwanda deportations is the silver bullet that will stop Labour. Like others last night, keeps repeating the “Labour amnesty” line as well.

Andrea Jenkins calling for common sense, true conservatism and the return of de Pfeffel.

Superb, rats in a sack.

She made me want to get a “WOKEIST” t-shirt made up… her definition seems to include everyone but herself.

Andrea Jenkins calling for common sense, true conservatism and the return of de Pfeffel.

This is low-grade blue on blue action. I need to see letters going into the ’22 and vicious personal attacks by Tory MPs on Sunak and his family!

On the other hand I would’ve paid money to have been that volunteer who got to tell him that without proper ID he’d wouldn’t be able to vote, y’know, because of his own legislation.

Our nasty racist POS forgot his too and was looking for an emergency proxy vote. Tom Hunt is apparently not a details man too!

This is low-grade blue on blue action. I need to see letters going into the ’22 and vicious personal attacks by Tory MPs on Sunak and his family!

thet won’t, they know there’s no other candidates

instead they’ll cling on to whatever victories they get and tell us how they defied expectations, all eyes on the mayors, for them itll all be about Houchen & Street  and if turnouts low maybe even Hall!

Andrea Jenkins really does inhabit an alternative universe, doesn’t she?

Mind you, she’s probably pretty representative of the headbanger wing, so I assume the letters are going in already

Anyone seen Rishi?

Our nasty racist POS forgot his too and was looking for an emergency proxy vote. Tom Hunt is apparently not a details man too!

how do you as a tory mp not have a single valid form of id, you’re exactly the type of person this law isn’t supposed to disenfranchise, it’s like trying to eat cheese off the mousetrap you put down yourself

— milo edwards (@Milo_Edwards) May 2, 2024

There really is something wrong with a lot of them. Like the honeypot nude photo thing a few weeks ago. I’m a nobody and I know if I get a risque photo and a flirty message from an unknown number that it’s a scam. How can you potentially be in some national security related role and be so stupid?

The Tory expectation management machine set it’s stall out early that it was a poor night for labour if they couldn’t win West Midlands and Tees Valley mayors. That’s pretty much the best they could come up with. Still plenty of time to see the end result of the votes, but by and large it so far seems to be reflecting what the voting intention polls say, with obvious local nuances. Certainly nothing for the Tories to feel positive about, no closing of gaps with Labour, and generally losing votes to all and sundry.

Indeed, but some honesty will be needed they’re not going to undo a decade and a half of Tory terrorism in a single parliament. Their first term will be tough and I wouldn’t expect seismic changes immediately.

That’s the point I was failing to make clearly  when I spoke of a generational vision. It will take a term to halt the decline and another term to start to see an improvement.

Despite how it appears, most people aren’t stupid and if one candidate says “we have an instant fix” and the other says “things are really bad and we all need to be in it for the long haul” there’s a big chunk who will be persuaded by tne honesty. Especially if the phrase “you’re not falling for those lying counts again are you?” is added to the posters.

Labour won’t be punished for improving things.

I guess the question is how much better than the Tories do voters expect Labour to be.

That Tom Hunt thing is amazing! From his post we are expected to believe that he has no passport or driving license. Really  Tom, really?

most people aren’t stupid

My mum’s partner is an otherwise very sensible bloke and I love him dearly, but he has a fear of Labour that is frankly incomprehensible. He’s a working man, been a union member all his life, a machinist at a car parts manufacturer, and has had all the benefits of a man of his generation, and yet he still thinks that voting Labour essentially means that the very next day, his house will be worth nothing, black lesbian single mums will be handed untold millions in benefits while the roads are left until they are a series of pot-holes vaguely held together with road-paint.

There are millions just like him

How can you potentially be in some national security related role and be so stupid?

They’ve spent a decade choosing only candidates from a shrinking pool of people who believe in the promise of Brexit.

This is what they will be fighting for the next five years: not Labour but their own legacy of terrible choices for MPs. If they are lucky they will be completely wiped out and can start afresh.

The worst possible outcome would be only a small defeat by Labour.

So the bojo thing….I’m assuming that it was just a classic Johnson ‘ooh look at me my trousers have fallen down’ type publicity stunt.

But that guy Tom Hunt….wtaf?!

I’m assuming that it was just a classic Johnson ‘ooh look at me my trousers have fallen down’ type publicity stunt.

My money instead would be on him being an lazy buffoon who didnt have an aide to sort out the details for him for once.

Lee Anderthal

The proverbial child in a mans body. The buffoon turd of the times.

I hope rish! stays on til the bitter end, the infighting reaching a screeching crescendo as they claw each other’s eyes out come the general election and slip slowly beneath the waves leaving nothing but an oily slick of shame

They’ve spent a decade choosing only candidates from a shrinking pool of people who believe in the promise of Brexit.

And after an electoral drubbing, the only ones left will be the real swivel-eyed loons, who will then make Braverman or Badanoch their leader and march off so far to the right that they’ll make Tice, Farage and Co look like Caroline Lucas

@Vader beautiful, that needs to be on a tee-shirt.

So where Reform did stand they have indeed hurt the Tories, not as high polling as UKIP (which is good for labour -they don’t seem to be taking their votes)

2 people will care about this: Sunak- the reform threat is real  I can see a lurch even further to the right (especially as lib Dems not maxing out in blue wall where harder right policies lose the Tories votes)

and Farage,……… if he sees an opportunity for grift (& a safe reform seat- he wont risk the humiliation of an 8th defeat as an MP candidate) he will be back as the leader in a fash,   that would spell even bigger trouble for Sunak & probably force the Tories even farther right- ECHR referendum?

Farage won’t stand, he knows he will lose. Plus if he did get in his register of members interests would be visible and he won’t ever want that

This is what they will be fighting for the next five years: not Labour but their own legacy of terrible choices for MPs. If they are lucky they will be completely wiped out and can start afresh.

They’ll also be fighting a Reform insurgency. The only way Farage Ltd will get actual seats is by climbing inside the hollowed-out corpse of the Conservative Party like Edgar the Bug in Men in Black, and strutting around pretending to be the Tories while ditching ‘moderates’ and installing cockroach far-right candidates.

‘Tom Hunt’: how cockney rhyming slang evolves

“Farage,……… if he sees an opportunity for grift (& a safe reform seat- he wont risk the humiliation of an 8th defeat as an MP candidate) he will be back as the leader in a fash”

I see what you did there. If that was deliberate, very well played. If it was a mistake, very well played.

do also think people should just temper their GE expectations a little too, these are local elections only, where loyal Tory voters might register their displeasure with a protest vote for a Reform councillor but a fair proportion of those headbangers will stay blue for a GE recognising the impact to their gang if they fully abandon them.

I disagree. Reform will have more candidates in a GE than are standing in.local elections, which will eat into the Tory vote. Also, Lib dems and Greens will probably do better locally than in a GE, which splits the centre left vote and hurts labour.

Dominic Greive being sensible on the BBC just now – a leadership battle would be stupid and drive the party further to the populist right, and lose the centrist voters you need to win a UK election.

Luckily being sensible in the Tory party is very much a minority viewpoint

I see what you did there. If that was deliberate, very well played. If it was a mistake, very well played

im glad someone spotted it and it was very deliberate

Graham I agree he wont want his finances exposed, its pretty insane that the party polling 3rd in the polls is not a party at all, just a secretive limited company with no internal democracy whatsoever, in those terms looks more like a pressure group designed to beat the Tories into doing their bidding

Lee Anderson not able to contain his inner 8 year old in that R4 interview.

I know, taking issue with the statement that he defected to Reform, claiming he was an “Independent MP” that switched party…

Lee, mate call it what you like, but the rest of the country knows you defected (again) because you’re just that sort of self interested, disloyal twunt…

Farage won’t stand, he knows he will lose. Plus if he did get in his register of members interests would be visible and he won’t ever want that

He’s tried (and failed) before to become an MP, and of course as pointed out by 30p He did (technically) serve as an MEP.
Nige likes the political limelight and notoriety, whether or not He’s twigged that actually taking office is a royal pain in the arse and comes with more expectations/responsibility than spouting from the side-lines has yet to be determined.

I’d say Nigel running is 50/50 and mainly comes down to whether or not he thinks the gouge they’ve taken out of the Tories in these locals will actually translate to a reasonably safe Reform seat somewhere?

He won’t want the humiliation of losing, especially if he’s declared in 3rd place having split the Tory vote in favour of a Labour candidate (the general prediction for reform), those ‘Optics’ would be very damaging for Reform (and great fun to watch).
So the real question has to be, is there actually a nailed on Reform seat to be had for Uncle Nige?
(Other than 30p Lee’s, cause they won’t want to sacrifice him at the Altar of Farage)…

Luckily being sensible in the Tory party is very much a minority viewpoint

Dominic Grieve and his like haven’t been welcome in the Tory party for a decade now

They quoted an anonymous Tory MP on Radio 4 the other day saying ‘to try and put another leader in place now would make us look absolutely insane. Are we mad enough to do it? Yes!’

NEW: Labour have conceded defeat in the Tees Valley mayoral contest.

Labour source says it’s a win for Ben Houchen, not the Conservative Party and say: Labour is on track to achieve the 12.5% swing in the region it needs to win back seats here.

— Harry Horton (@harry_horton) May 3, 2024

Sources in Birmingham Labour pessimistic this morning about party's chances in West Mids mayoralty. Concerned about Gaza effect on Muslim voters in the city and losing votes to local independent candidate who campaigned on the issue…

— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) May 3, 2024

So the real question has to be, is there actually a nailed on Reform seat to be had for Uncle Nige?

Well there was a seat which by all accounts he should have comfortably won, the last one that he contested – South Thanet.

It was a UKIP stronghold and Thanet is the only local council which UKIP have ever controlled.

I have no idea why he didn’t win the seat, apart from the fact that he’s a ****, it certainly wasn’t due to him not getting enough publicity.

Iirc he was crying afterwards that the Tories had played dirty by having a former UKIP member standing as their candidate.

Richard Holden, the Conservative party chair, described these election results as “typical for a government in midterm”.

On Sky news. I mean I know that’s what they always say, but man, honestly; we’re just months away from a G.E. Mid Term results…🙄

Lee, mate call it what you like, but the rest of the country knows you defected (again) because you’re just that sort of self interested, disloyal twunt…

Its less defecting and more jumping before he is shoved.

Again.

Left labour whilst under investigation for being an arse.

Left tories whilst under investigation for being an arse.

Should be third time lucky though given being an arse seems to be a positive for reform.

Shame Houchen remains.

Could have done with a new mayor and then a proper investigation into the freeport.

Which to be fair does seem to have lived up to its name for his businessmen associates who have been given plenty.

He’s tried (and failed) before to become an MP, and of course as pointed out by 30p He did (technically) serve as an MEP.

Yeah – wasn’t he one of those with their snouts in the trough – took home a lovely paycheck but had one of the worst attendance records & did nothing (when he could’ve actually helped people of this country with fishing quotas etc..)

Shame Houchen remains.

Could have done with a new mayor and then a proper investigation into the freeport.

Which to be fair does seem to have lived up to its name for his businessmen associates who have been given plenty.

Im not sure he will be comfortable with Labour in government looking over his shoulder and looking like a bug swing to Labour, compared with his last election