Put the kettle on – Jeremy Vine discussing Wiggo on Radio 2 now.

Lunch break radio fighting to ensue?

Wiggo? What’s happened to him then?

Got shot by a tank driver outside a power station apparently.

I heard that his parachute didn’t open when he was base jumping off the London Eye

Having a Sherman outside the train station?

Please, somebody, next time they see Vine on a bike (he says he cycles), run him over!

There were several minutes of the discussion before anyone mentioned unfit people in lycra not paying road tax. Radio 2 standards are slipping.

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There were several minutes of the discussion before anyone mentioned unfit people in lycra not paying road tax. Radio 2 standards are slipping.

The Hutch batted that one aside nicely though

Ugh already shouting at the radio.

Have they got to the “no insurance” argument yet??

Work blocks the Beeb’s radio pages & can’t get a signal for a normal radio!!

Nothing good can come of this… It’s like having the discussion with my father in law, whi drives a Range Rover and complains about cyclists not paying tax and cycling two abreast. He also believes cyclists have minimal rights, if any. It really is depressing to hear him go on and terrifying to see the way he drives around cyclists.

Our first kid is due any time now and the parents in law have banned ne from ever taking the kid on the bike! Yeah, right. I’ll just avoid people like you where possible.

*disclaimer* I actually get on very well with both of them when we’re not discussing bikes…

If you want to get angry at what the general public say about cyclists then don’t bother with the radio, just have a read of this:

Tweets by CycleHatred

Guaranteed righteous fury within 10 tweets.

I have the same arguments with my dad. For someone that reads so many times newspapers he’s very ignorant about the law regarding car tax *sigh*

Some nice ones from twatter:

@saustin28
Other cyclists should take a leaf out of Bradley Wiggins’ book. Cars have priority on the roads even if you have a gold medal or not

@KatieEminemC
Only me who finds it funny Bradley Wiggins getting hit by a car to say he’s a world class cyclist :L

@JoeHooper95
cyclists on the road.. Why annoy other drivers when there’s a pavement 2 go on.

@sarah_cant
I’ll never understand why cyclists don’t just keep there cycling on the path where they belong instead of making roads even more dangerous

@reasonablyright
If even Wiggins can get hit by a van it’s time cyclists were completely banned from the road. It’s beyond a joke.

@GuessWhoMan
Why should motorists respect cyclists? Motorists pay road fund so we own it. Cyclists are the stowaways of the road.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!

Mental

Seems to me that Twatter is the pure distillation of the lowest common denominator of the internet. It seems to be the Haven for people who’s personalities and opinions are so vile, that should they venture their point of view in public, they’d get punched. A lot.

I’d hazard a guess that they rarely voice these views publically, on account of having no friends, and being loathed by everyone who has the misfortune to encounter them. Thus denying both them a platform, and us a punchbag

..and opinions that are so uncomplicated by reason or flexibility that they can be expressed in a single sentence.

Never mind, these people have high blood pressure, poor relationships and will die of heart disease at around 60.

binners A*, well done.

Twitter = Youtube comments 2.0

I’d hazard a guess that they rarely voice these views publically, on account of having no friends, and being loathed by everyone who has the misfortune to encounter them

…but isnt it sad to find out that people have these opinions? I’d prefer it if they did voice them in public so I knew who they were.

I’d hazard a guess that they rarely voice these views publically, on account of having no friends, and being loathed by everyone who has the misfortune to encounter them. Thus denying both them a platform, and us a punchbag

My missus has these oppinions. I think the only reason she avoids cyclists is I keep pointing out I’ve not put her name on the life insurance yet 😛

She is a shocklingly bad driver though. Then again by Southern standards she’s average, what happens at Watford Gap that turns drivers crap?

My missus has these oppinions.

😯 There goes the theory that these people just don’t personally know any cyclists so can’t empathise!

Either that or your missus secretly hates you.

I don’t think people are malicious, just very very stupid. Total lack of ability to see the other point of view results in animosity.

Even the language of ignorance and denigration are the same.

People say stuff like ‘why on earth do people cycle on roads?’ as a way of making out that the cyclist is stupid, when in reality it’s them that don’t know the answer. Ignorance flows into anger seamlessly.

Ignorance flows into anger seamlessly.

Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate. Hate.. leads to suffering.

Mmmm?

I’d hazard a guess that they rarely voice these views publically, on account of having no friends, and being loathed by everyone who has the misfortune to encounter them. Thus denying both them a platform, and us a punchbag

Binners 🙂

I’d hazard a guess that they rarely voice these views publically, on account of having no friends, and being loathed by everyone who has the misfortune to encounter them.

Worryingly if you look at the conversations these tweets come form they typically have several friends agreeing with them!

isn’t it part of driving theory to learn this stuff? (GrahamS posted). i mean are those kids or did they somehow pass their tests?

isn’t it part of driving theory to learn this stuff? (GrahamS posted). i mean are those kids or did they somehow pass their tests?

As I recall the Driving Theory (and test) mainly focuses on cyclists as “hazards”.

I don’t think there is a bit saying something like “Cyclists have every right to use the road. They pay for it like everyone else. They are not allowed on the pavement by law unless it is specifically signed. Cyclists may sometimes ride in the middle of the lane – this is actually the recommended position for them. They don’t do it to annoy you, they do it for their own safety.”

There probably should be though!

Has anyone ever seen the police pull someone over for driving badly around cyclists?

I get the impression most car drivers assume that would never happen.

This isn’t just about cycling though is it? It’s about a lack of respect for one’s fellow citizen, summed up nicely by this chap…

“British Cycling director Martin Gibbs told BBC Sport….”Nine out of 10 British cycling members have a car. It has to be about more mutual respect looking out for each other. We mustn’t make this a sort of tribal battle.”

And as for Jeremy Vine, well he’s just a professional sh!t stirrer isn’t he.

I’ve just spent the last 10 minutes replying “moron” to all the idots on cyclehatred.

These anti-cycling people posting on the internet always seem to have trouble spelling proporly.

I’ve just spent the last 10 minutes replying “moron” to all the idots on cyclehatred.

I’ve noticed there are quite a few folk now who regularly try to challenge some of the views that appear there. Some are polite. Some a bit more direct.

It does occasionally seem to make an impact, but there will always be another batch tomorrow.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisyphus

These anti-cycling people posting on the internet always seem to have trouble spelling proporly.

Ironing ?

I assumed that was intentional 😕

Has anyone ever seen the police pull someone over for driving badly around cyclists?

I get the impression most car drivers assume that would never happen.

my mate who’s a copper and a cyclist has pulled someone over trying to run someone off the road at a junction. He gave them a bollocking when they started arguing back and did that lovely thing all coppers do when they want to be annoying and found every single fault with their car and ran up about £300 worth of traffic offenses there and then

For one day of the year I suggest all cyclists use their car to get to work (or anywhere for that matter), thus blocking up any highway.

I don’t think the cycling hating commuters would be so shouty about us after the country is gridlocked for a day.

For one day of the year I suggest all cyclists use their car to get to work (or anywhere for that matter), thus blocking up any highway.

With the exception of universities (where car ownership is low anyway) are there any town with enough bikes to make a significant difference? The number of people who commute by bike because they want to must be tiny. Just in our office ther emust be ~2000 people, arround 750-1000 cars, and 30 bikes.

same here, 1000 in our office, 3 bikes.

You know how people on here sometimes say the avoid a Channel or Radio station because of one presenter. Well I never understood it until JV appeared on the Radio one day when Radio 2 was on at work. Can’t stand him.