Put the kettle on – Jeremy Vine discussing Wiggo on Radio 2 now.

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  • Premier Icon GrahamS
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    For one day of the year I suggest all cyclists use their car to get to work (or anywhere for that matter), thus blocking up any highway.

    Ahem http://drivetoworkday.org/ 11th December

    http://road.cc/content/news/66686-cycle-campaigner-proposes-london-drive-work-day

    james
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    “Jeremy Vine, well he’s just a professional sh!t stirrer isn’t he”

    eh?
    He’s a professional journalist/presenter/etc so its his job to ask alternate arguments for the interviewee to counter argue, so to make a discussion of the subject? ie the point of the programme?

    chrismac
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    “Jeremy Vine, well he’s just a professional sh!t stirrer isn’t he”

    eh?
    He’s a professional journalist/presenter/etc so its his job to ask alternate arguments for the interviewee to counter argue, so to make a discussion of the subject? ie the point of the programme?

    As the original poster said, professional sh!t stirrer. I havent heard that much drivel in ages. The guy spent the whole time trying to convince everyone that cycling was terrifying.

    butcher
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    On a plus note, while I was cycling driving home from work, there was a good piece on Radio 4 with some dude from the Times and Chris Boardman.

    Someone applauded Boardman the other days on here for his speaking on cycle safety … he’s very good, isn’t he.

    ooOOoo
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    my mate who’s a copper and a cyclist has pulled someone over trying to run someone off the road at a junction. He gave them a bollocking when they started arguing back and did that lovely thing all coppers do when they want to be annoying and found every single fault with their car and ran up about £300 worth of traffic offenses there and then

    Ah good work 🙂 Still you’d hope the ‘running them off the road’ bit would be the thing he bollocked them most for. In 7 years of riding to work I have never seen the police pull over a motorist for intimidating a cyclist. Then again they haven’t stopped me for riding on the pavement.

    It seems that if there isn’t a camera system for a particular offense then you are rarely gonna get pulled over.

    Premier Icon GrahamS
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    Someone applauded Boardman the other days on here for his speaking on cycle safety … he’s very good, isn’t he

    That would be me. Yeah he speaks a LOT of sense and I’m glad he’s showing up on a lot of these programmes.

    Then again they haven’t stopped me for riding on the pavement.

    That’s an offence – but officers are encouraged to use discretion, especially if you are riding sensibly and the other option is a dangerous road.

    Premier Icon spawnofyorkshire
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    @ooOOoo

    He told me he was politely explaining why he pulled the driver over and they just didn’t understand why endangering another persons life just because they were on a bike wasn’t ok. They started arguing with him to the point that he’d had enough, tore them a new one and gave them a bunch of tickets.
    My buddy is really chilled out so to get him to that stage the driver must have been a proper d!ck

    He only pulled them over as he’s a cyclist himself, that seems to be the rule of thumb in his nick. They’ve all covered RTA’s where cyclists have been hit unfortunatley

    frazered
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    Lol

    ” Wayne Hayes said: “Victoria Pendleton’s been advised to stay at home until we can dig up the floor of the velodrome, just in case she’s mauled by a pack of black dogs with glowing red eyes while a small, pale child looks on.”

    Premier Icon footflaps
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    Then again they haven’t stopped me for riding on the pavement.

    That’s an offence –

    Not necessarily, so many pavements are now dual use. I can pretty much cycle to work, from home, on pavements designated for cycle and pedestrian use. However, I use the road as it’s quicker.

    Premier Icon GrahamS
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    It seems that if there isn’t a camera system for a particular offense then you are rarely gonna get pulled over.

    Hence the rise of the helmetcam cyclist. Seems to have been a few successful prosecutions now based on helmetcam footage. And of course, standard YouTube/social-media vengeance too 😀

    Premier Icon GrahamS
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    Not necessarily, so many pavements are now dual use. I can pretty much cycle to work, from home, on pavements designated for cycle and pedestrian use. However, I use the road as it’s quicker.

    Well yeah okay, it is an offence, unless explicitly signed otherwise. 🙂

    Almost all of my commute is on shared-use paths and pavements. Though I recently found out that part of it is actually not shared-use and I’m using it illegally. (Naturally there are no signs to indicate where the shared-use bit stops)

    Apparently the legal route is to divert through an underpass, in the opposite direction that I want to go, couple of road crossings then down a busy city centre road, through a busy pedestrian area, then under another underpass. Utterly barking.

    I have absolutely no intent to adjust my illegal route, along a deserted pavement by some empty waste ground and I don’t think any policeman will give me any stick for it either.

    ooOOoo
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    Yeah, it helps. Sad it needs to be done but everyone seems to react more when caught by technology. Even as someone who designs stuff for traffic monitoring systems, I would much rather see more human based systems (ie police) out there.

    @spawnofyorkshire

    they just didn’t understand why endangering another persons life just because they were on a bike wasn’t ok

    Glad to hear he spoke to someone about that, as that’s the attitude many drivers seem to have!

    He only pulled them over as he’s a cyclist himself, that seems to be the rule of thumb in his nick.

    That’s not so encouraging 🙁 I guess if you don’t cycle you never really realise how vulnerable we all are. Same for police officers.

    smiff
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    that twitter feed today is absolutely amazing 😯 🙄 🙁

    this one seems to sum it up well?

    Tom Daley gets trolled on twitter: nation unites against trolls. Wiggo gets his ribs broken by a van driver: nation unites against cyclists.

    Premier Icon GrahamS
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    that twitter feed today is absolutely amazing

    It’s my Go-To resource when I want to get frothingly angry 😆

    The levels of hatred and down right stupidity are quite staggering – it’s really worrying that some of these people are allowed a driving license.

    smiff
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    what surprises me is how many young(ish) women are on there.. maybe i’m naive but i expect a certain sort of bloke to run me over.

    james
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    “spent the whole time trying to convince everyone that cycling was terrifying”
    And if he did the opposite it would have been a failry bland one sided peice (plus the generic tax/insurance thing thrown in) likely with few people to call in?
    There must be a team (ie not him) planning the subjects and the argument to come from which will get plenty of people to call in to get a range of viewpoints on which to draw?

    smiff
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    the presenter is not the problem, i had a listen to that bit on iplayer, problem is the seriously bad attitude among a significant minority of UK drivers.. it’s not just driving either, it’s a general CGAF for strangers?

    frazered
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    Put the kettle on ? More like hit the whiskey bottle…. Utter cretins in the debate and I want my lost time back!

    There were a surprising number of anti cyclist twitter posts from young women too, some of them quite nasty.

    Premier Icon crazy-legs
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    That’s an offence – but officers are encouraged to use discretion, especially if you are riding sensibly and the other option is a dangerous road.

    On my commute home I make an illegal right turn into a one-way street (me going the wrong way down it). It opens oput intoa 2-lane road very shortly after that junction, there’s maybe only 20yds were I’m illegal.

    Last time I did that, a police car stopped and let me through. 🙂

    I can’t read that cyclehatred thing and I didn’t bother listening to Jeremy Vine either, it just gets me too wound up. I know exactly what’s being said and the level of stupidity and bigotry is really alarming.

    RichPenny
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    My place of work has Radio 2 on permanently. The production area is open plan but we’ve removed the speakers from our area. We can still hear it at a low level but I can’t remember the last time I heard Jeremy Vines voice. It’s like I’ve evolved a poisonous **** aural filter 🙂

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