[Closed] PSA: XT M785 Brakes

That's stonking. Ordered some myself, with adapters.

Want another PSA from there? XTR BB for 16 quid.

That is a brilliant price, think ill treat myself.

Cheers matey

Bight a pair for 195 two weeks ago 🙁 oh well brilliant brakes

Just Went on and ordered new xtr s for 288 delivered awesome. Anybody want to buy a set of m785s now all silver ha

£100 posted? 😛

ordered, cheers guv!

🙂

Perfect timing - bottom bracket died this morning 😡
I've decided that I prefer the feel of SLX's to Hope Mini's so I'll soon be back to Shimano brakes on both bikes...

- thanks slackman 🙂

Only thing is, how do peole feel about two piece caliper of the new brakes vs one piece of the olds?

Unless im reading it wrong, these are set Euro way, ie other way round and cant be flipped? I guess you can swap the hoses over though? "Front wheel brake: left brake lever" "Rear wheel brake: Features as described under item no. 1769766-2, but right brake lever" very cheap if its just a hose swap required

you just got me into trouble with the wife, however i love you!!!

How would these compare with Hope Tech X2s with regards to power and weight?

how do peole feel about two piece caliper of the new brakes vs one piece of the olds?

****. I can't afford these. But they're VERY cheap.

The main Thing you will notice between shimamo and hope brakes is when you pull the brake on with shimamo your bike comes to a stop

These are the opposite way round to our standard brakes right?

As in rear is right hand whereas it's usually left?

Edit ...... Just read the post above. I'd be shortening anyway so a swap is easy enough.

A two piece calliper is stiffer

What is the deal with the Ice-Tec alloy fin pads? They aren't mentioned at all. Do they come as one piece with the pads?

Just emailed them about that, if they do I'm getting some

I think i am right in saying they are included after reading up a bit. It's attached to the pad itself. They can be used with either these ice tech finned pads or just standard pads

Oh and if you 'Like' the 'Rosebikes' page on facebook you get 10 euros off of the order

now he tells us

Sorry pal. This is the first time i have ever used rose and remembered when ordering seeing a little advert for them on the sidebar on facebook. Sure enough i got the discount

pottsathome - Member

The main Thing you will notice between shimamo and hope brakes is when you pull the brake on with shimamo your bike comes to a stop

PMSL. To be honest, I've been really impressed with the Hope brakes - not as much power as the Elixirs I had before but enough to stop whenever I need to and massively more modulation and 'feel'. Mainly looking at these as a potential weight saving exercise and given the pricing and the demand for used Hope stuff, it'll probably be a free swap.

SLX are 66 euros each! Absolute bargain.

eh? Xt's are 63 euros. Pref that.

The old XT brakes had a single piece caliper, which means that when you compress the brakes your weakest point is the pads against the rotor.

With the new two piece caliper, the weakest point is the screws that hold the caliper together.

Follow?

Also, do we have a definete on which pads come with the brakes?

Got a link to those? I can only find the new SLX.

http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/article/shimano-deore-xt-disc-brake-br-m785--servo-wave--/aid:515724

http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/article/shimano-deore-xt-disc-brake-br-m785---servo-wave--/aid:515731

66 euros and 63 euros.

anyone have any feedback on their bike stand?

http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/article/rose-bike-stand-rastplatz-teleskop/aid:480689

27 quid.

£66 and £63, not euros. No wonder i was confused. 😳

This pic makes me doubt the stand:

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@continuity - 66 and 63 pounds, I'm seeing?

My mistake, i read his 66 euros as pounds.

Eight pounds a brake more.

Surely you could just put the bottom clips on the down tube, and the top one on the toptube?

Do they sell just the brake calipers, rather than the whole lot? I can't find any calipers on their own...

Forgive me for being rude, but isn't it the new levers that are the awesome bit?

How "new"? I already have some fairly recent XT levers that came with the brakes, but one of the calipers leaks and needs replacing.

Have XT levers changed much in the last year and a bit?

Would I need special clamps to use ispec with shifters on these or is it just the shifter that has to be different? Makes a difference in what order I buy my new bits. 😀

P.S. And if anyone has a photo of how the ispec bits all go together that would be nice.

gnnnn! Was going to upgrade in a few months time, not right now! How involved is the job of swapping the hoses round?

If it's anything like current Shimano it's a doddle. You might want a set of olives and the end piece thing (forget it's name) to make a proper job though.

Nice one slackman99. Just ordered a set!
(Couldn't get the Facebook code to work, btw, so I've emailed them)

Ordered too, £126 for the pair!

Where is the Facebook code? I've liked the page.

Like the page then click on the link at the bottom of the Liked page. Sends you off to something else that I'm yet to do to give the code.

Anyone thinking of buying the XTR brakeset just to be clear that these are the 'race' set not the 'trail' set i.e. you don't get the free stroke adjustment.

Shame, as I would have bought them otherwise.

I bought a pair of SLX from Germany a few weeks back and they are the best brakes I've owned and used (including hope mono minis, 1st gen saints, M775 XTs)
They are more powerful and feel nicer than my M775 XTs. If you don't need the free stroke adjustment get SLX

For info -
The SLX and XT calipers are the same (both have ceramic pistons)
I cannot tell they are not 'one-piece' in use
Swapping levers was easy
The lever is a lot shorter (I now run these outside my shifters)
The complete brakes are lighter than my M775 XTs

Cheers

Thanks for the heads up!

Anybody know what delivery times are like.

Cheers for the Facebook help. Absolute bargain.

Done it! Two pairs + an XTR bottom bracket!

Just a heads up for those going more blingy. Merlin have 2012 XTR brakes for £300 inc rotors...

I'm having second thoughts about the XTR BB - someone told me that the only differences between xt xtr and saint is the amount of sealing? Had problems with grit getting in the bearings already with my xt.

Delivery is generally pretty quick. About 4-5 working days.

I am so tempted by these...

What needs to be bought to shorten the cables (and swap levers around)?
Hoping just Mineral Oil and some tubing.

Will the olives in them already be reusable?

Can older 9 speed XT M770 shifters be made to work with the iSpec mount?

I was going to ask the same: will we need new olives to switch them around?

you can get away with reusing olives, but if it doesnt seal then you need to replace them. For the sake of a couple of quid Id get some olives in ready for the swap so that you dont have to wait for them to be able to test your lovely new brakes 🙂

http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/BSSHSMBH59/shimano-olive-ring-set-fit-sm-bh59-y8h298020

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=1801

EDIT its infuriating that theyre so expensive. I was lucky to get 10x sets as a bulk buy of eBay once. Same with powerlinks, got 10x for a fraction of the cost of 10x individuals.

Still haven't had a reply about the pads.

One thing to bear in mind with these brakes is they use a different hose insert to the older brakes. So if you plan to cut the hoses down you actually need Shimano part number 8JA 9802. If you just intend to swap them and use a new olive then the older part number that Stoner links to will be fine, just use the olive and discard the insert. Or you could buy just an olive, part number 8H2 0400.

Anyone thinking of buying the XTR brakeset just to be clear that these are the 'race' set not the 'trail' set i.e. you don't get the free stroke adjustment.

huh?

it says M988 which is the code for the trail lever

race and trail use the same calipers, the M985

the race levers are M985

not sure why you think they are the races

you can get away with reusing olives, but if it doesnt seal then you need to replace them. For the sake of a couple of quid Id get some olives in ready for the swap so that you dont have to wait for them to be able to test your lovely new brakes

http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/BSSHSMBH59/shimano-olive-ring-set-fit-sm-bh59-y8h298020

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=1801

EDIT its infuriating that theyre so expensive. I was lucky to get 10x sets as a bulk buy of eBay once. Same with powerlinks, got 10x for a fraction of the cost of 10x individuals.

Just buy the olives from Rose! They're only 90p!

http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/article/shimano-olive-incl-insert/aid:198833

Edit - and delivery times are really quick. I think my brake pad order (which are also really cheap from Rose) arrived in 3 days.

On the Rose website it looks like a copy and paste error as both the Race and Trail brakes say M985 in the header. The products themselves look correct to the descriptions.

I picked up the deore version cheap for a second build and I'm just wondering what insert is need?

These brakes:-

http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/article/shimano-deore-disc-brake-br-m596/aid:516076

Do I need a different olive to the one in the link above?

Cheers mister p.

Wish I'd've thought of these things before I ordered. I was worried that there'd be a rush on the brakes and they'd be gone before we could all import a load.

The BR-M596 brakes use the new brake hose SM-BH90 so you need the silver insert, part number 8JA 9802.

[url= http://techdocs.shimano.com/media/techdocs/content/cycle/EV/bikecomponents/BR/EV-BR-M596-R-3206_v1_m56577569830759433.pdf ]BR-M596 diagram[/url]

In fact if you look at the link to the olive and insert on the Roase website it actually lists it as "Attention! Not compatible with Shimano brake cable SM-BH90"

Bought some olives, will just use the old insert (unless I lose it, which isn't out of the question)!

I'm not on Facebook, can I still use the code?

nmdbase -

The finned pads are one-piece but you can 'normal' pads without the fins.

Another bonus is that they are now symmetrical so you can switch them around if they are wearing unevenly.
Although the finned pads are labelled L & R but not sure why. Airflow?

The BR-M596 brakes use the new brake hose SM-BH90 so you need the silver insert, part number 8JA 9802.

BR-M596 diagram

In fact if you look at the link to the olive and insert on the Roase website it actually lists it as "Attention! Not compatible with Shimano brake cable SM-BH90"

My bad. You'll want these:

http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/article/shimano-olive-incl-insert-485535/aid:485537

I was a touch worried as i'd put up the PSA over the weekend before they could ship the brakes and thought afterwards that with the rush, I might end up getting none.

Good news, they are in the country according to the DHL tracking info.......

Looking forwards to getting them, but haven't got any olives (or inserts) which was a touch silly. Have to find some of the correct ones from the uk.

Thanks Entonox, what I wondered is if it came with the finned pads or standard ones/

Bike 24 have them too if Rose go out of stock.more money at bike 24 though..

i ordered off Rose in the end,

the lever looks shorter,which i like..

gonna swap to some other hoses goodridge or somet,which should be ok with normal olives etc right?

You should get the olives and inserts in the kit. I did with my XTRs from Germany.

Surely we should get olives and inserts in the box?

Edit .... Just seen above.

nmdbase - My SLX came with sintered finned.

My friends XT came with the same.

Both ordered from different German online shops.

Thanks mate, order time 🙂

Seems too good to be true, but I'm in for a few bits...!

Just ordered some too - assume they'll work Ok with my Hope rotors and adaptors?

I've jumped on the band wagon as well.

Possably a silly question about swapping the levers around, the above posts say all you need is the olives but wouldnt you lose some of the oil in the hoses and need to bleed them as well?

I expect to bleed them when swopping but can't see why you need an olive unless you shorten the hoses.
The olive will be compressed onto the hose at the insert so unless shortening the hose it should be fine.

The oil shoud stay in if you cut carefully and keep the hose upright.

Thanks Dickie and Mosey.

ooh they've arrived

good timing - picking up new bike to put them on later today as well

🙂