Prometheus

6 Full pages in and nobody has mentioned that Scottish scientist woman? That was some of the worst acting I’ve seen in any film, never mind a mega budget blockbuster. Crikey.

Also, when the space ship was rolling over them at the end, why didn’t they just run sideways? It was like when there’s a sheep in the middle of the road and it just runs in a straight line intend of into the verge…

Enjoyed it a lot, but it could/should have been loads better.

disjointed and pointless story. good effects. the dragon tattoo woman can run well fast and cover huge distances, and roll amazingly well sideways.

Shite.

How he could pimp Alien out like that i don’t know…oh hang on, MONEY!

SHITE.

Haven’t read the full thread, so not sure if anyone’s mentioned it, but wasn’t Guy Pearce a dead ringer for Harry Enfield in the “Old Gits” sketch..?

Shite.

How he could pimp Alien out like that i don’t know…oh hang on, MONEY!

SHITE.

You’ve just copied/pasted that from empire hav’nt you?

the dragon tattoo woman can run well fast and cover huge distances, and roll amazingly well sideways.

After she’s had a huge alien foetus removed from her and has been clipped back together with staples. Then she sees off a nine foot tall super being and has the guts to get back on board a ship that she knows has more alien spawn on it to head off into space to give the rest of the super being race, a ruddy good piece of her mind.

IRON hard. That’s my kind of woman. Where do I get one?

Scandinavia, samuri.

Summer holiday in Norway this year, so shall investigate.

As said above, was too similar to Alien film(s), and didn’t bring anything new that hasn’t really been done before in Sci-Fi films in the last few years. The special effects/CGI were good but I also thought it got too disjointed in the middle & near the end.

just saw it.

some dodgy dialogue towards the end, but a good take on the bigger issues concerning our origins…

i liked david’s weyland corp. finger imprint…

the only real question I can get from it is how did the space jockey character end up back in the alien space ship in the flying position and why didn’t the nostromo(?) pick up any evidence of previous human presence?

the only real question I can get from it is how did the space jockey character end up back in the alien space ship in the flying position and why didn’t the nostromo(?) pick up any evidence of previous human presence?

the ship they find in alien is a different ship on a different moon/planetoid….

i’ve had to nerd up on this very question, and i learned that
the planet in Alien was LV-426. the Planet in Prometheus is LV-223.

the bartender at the cinema tonight told me.

how did the space jockey character end up back in the alien space ship in the flying position

different ships, innit. there were eggies on the alien ship, and more advanced face huggers, therefore obviously a more advanced version of the bioweapons they were making. the lab was well old after all.

the only real question I can get from it is how did the space jockey character end up back in the alien space ship in the flying position and why didn’t the nostromo(?) pick up any evidence of previous human presence?

Why is it soooo many people seem to struggle with this – especially after the space map scene where there are hundreds of planets…

i can see why people get confused by this – the three other guys i went with asked the same question at the end. Its billed as a prequil to Alien, so you expect it it run into the ‘Alien’ sequence of events.

But Scott has tried to make it as obvious as possible… for a start its a moon, not a planet (like in Alien). The atmosphere, terrain & geography are completely different – for example the silicone storm which doesnt make an apereance in alien or aliens (because its on a different planet).
There would be too many contiunity errors to count if it were the same plannet – for get the evidence of human remains, why go into the spaceship in alien when theres a row of GIANT alien structures in a nice sraight line right next to it…

I think Ridley Scott and his team could have marketed it a hell of a lot better – the link on page 5 to the scott interview explains why he didnt, prefering to rely on viral marketing of FB and twitter to try to establish a early underground following, with a ‘seek and you fill find’ snippits of fottage, like the Wayland TED talk. However this did not work – if some of the actors / director had done the usual press interviews the entire ‘different planet’ thing could have been sorted in the 1st minute of the interview.

When we approach the moon, it labels it as LV223. Anyone who has seen alien knows LV426 was the planet in that film.

No possible confusion unless you cannot hear or read.

Alien / Aliens planet LV-426

vs
Prometheus LV-233

well okay that does make sense i’ll sit back down now

Oh of course. you’d have to be as thick as crap to not remember the differences between one windswept planet you last saw thirty odd years ago and a windswept moon you’re looking at now.

I for one will be watching Alien and/or Aliens this weekend. *That’s* how you make a film Ridley! You could learn a thing or two from this guy, errrm, Ridley/Cameron.

prefer not to compare Prometheus to alien or aliens.and thats how ridley wanted it right?

loadsa flaws in alien-s etc too.and also in this too.

still got everyone thinking on here dint it.thats pretty good i say.

thats how ridley wanted it right?

perhaps because he knew it wouldn’t be as good?

What happened to the ginger haired geologist? I think he got some acid on his face, then all of a sudden was a zombie. Didn’t really seem to fit with anything else.

Yeah, they seemed to forget from time to time what computer game they were trying to punt. That would explain all the different deaths. Could have cut all those characters, should have.

On a related note, we were in a good mood anyway as there was a preview for the re-issue of Jaws with the famous line “we’re gonna need a bigger boat”.

Wise words, Ridley.

Weyland being there made no sense really and added nothing to the story. Neither did Charleze Theron being his daughter all of a sudden add anything to the story. But I did enjoy the bit where he got hit on the head with a severed head; like some kind of sci fi/horror Laurel and Hardy.

on reflection of a week or so, and reading a lot of comments on the web,
i’d like to say that its an ok film but not perfect and should have been something better from someone like Ridley.

but hey,
at least it didnt have

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JAR
JAR

What happened to the ginger haired geologist? I think he got some acid on his face, then all of a sudden was a zombie. Didn’t really seem to fit with anything else.

He was infected with the black goo as well as getting burnt from the acid. My take on it was, he morphed into what Charlie was ultimately going to turn into. He was infected with the goo then left to change, whereas Charlie was flamethrowered to death before he fully changed. The geologist was a glimpse at what the engineers had planned for humans once they had unleashed the goo on earth???

shhheeeshhhh – (warning – major spoilers if you’ve not seen it yet)

Did no one pay attention during the film!!!!? – there were two guys who got infected by the ‘worms’. One, the biologist had his arm broken, and the worm went inside him in his helmet (he was still alive) infecting him, the other the ginger geologist had his helmet sprayed with acid which then melted into his face (ow!). This coupled by the fact the atmosphere in the ruins was toxic killed him. The group then find only the ginger haired guy, dead, with a worm in his mouth later on after the storm had cleared. The Biologist (with the broken arm) was missing still, we assume he ran off after being infected by the worm.
A bit later the biologist (not the ginger geologist) turns up randomly out side the Prometheus, he’s been fully infected by the worm and the goo and goes on a berserker rampage killing off most of the crew.

Assuming by the berserker rampage the worms are completely different ‘species’ to the face hugger’s – the worm directly controlled the biologist in a parasitic way, turning its host on its own kind and providing him with superhuman strength and agility – and all this with a broken arm? well did any one else notice the guys back was broken when they opened the bay door, so i doubt that a broken back would make much difference either.

er it was the geologist who went on the rampage not the biologist.

shhheeeshhhh – (warning – major spoilers if you’ve not seen it yet)

Did no one pay attention during the film!!!!? – there were two guys who got infected by the ‘worms’. One, the biologist had his arm broken, and the worm went inside him in his helmet (he was still alive) infecting him, the other the ginger geologist had his helmet sprayed with acid which then melted into his face (ow!). This coupled by the fact the atmosphere in the ruins was toxic killed him. The group then find only the ginger haired guy, dead, with a worm in his mouth later on after the storm had cleared. The Biologist (with the broken arm) was missing still, we assume he ran off after being infected by the worm.
A bit later the biologist (not the ginger geologist) turns up randomly out side the Prometheus, he’s been fully infected by the worm and the goo and goes on a berserker rampage killing off most of the crew.

Assuming by the berserker rampage the worms are completely different ‘species’ to the face hugger’s – the worm directly controlled the biologist in a parasitic way, turning its host on its own kind and providing him with superhuman strength and agility – and all this with a broken arm? well did any one else notice the guys back was broken when they opened the bay door, so i doubt that a broken back would mack much difference either.

It was the ginger geologist that attacked the Prometheus and you never actually saw him injesting a worm, just burnt by the acid and coming into contact with the black goo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus_(film)#Plot

Sean Harris as Fifield:
A geologist who has become unstable after many missions.

Inside the structure, Fifield and Milburn are attacked by snake-like creatures. Milburn is killed, and corrosive fluid from one of the creatures melts Fifield’s helmet, exposing him to the leaking dark liquid.

A mutated Fifield attacks the hangar bay and kills several crew members before being killed himself

I struggle with long sentences. But a skim read of this admirably sums up why, despite loving both Alien and Prometheous, if anyone asked if I did, my reply would be “no. I can’t ****ing stand any science fiction crap”. Because its somewhat obvious that its a leading question which would lead, with spirit-crushing predictability, into all this pointless drivel

Its a film. Quite a good one. Other things you may want to look up: a sense of perspective, and maybe a life too, while you’re at it. Dear god! 🙄

i stand corrected 😳
it was almost a week ago that i saw it, but i seem to remember that you see a worm remove itself from the geologists mouth…..

One question I haven’t seen asked.

What did David say to the Engineer? Could that have been the reason he attacked them or would have have done it regardless?

The beauty of Alien, was the simplicity of the storytelling. Far too many dead ends and unresolved/unexplained threads in Prometheus.

The Scottish medic was **** awful and why not just cast an old person [John Hurt?] as Weyland rather than a young fella in a latex mask. [yes, I saw the viral TED talk]

Ultimately, I didn’t really care for any of the characters, there was not enough time developing a dymanic between them. Both Alien and Aliens had the post stasis meal to build that and develop the characters a bit. Prometheus lacked that, it spent more time showing gloop falling into a cup than character development, apart from one exchange between speccy and ginge.

If I’d known beforehand that the guy from Lost was involved, I’d have been more wary or watching it. It could have been great, with more script/plot revisions, but I felt it was sloppy on the whole.

Visually stunning. Fassbender was brilliant too. I had high hopes, but the result was in line with expectations, sadly. That said, if they do another, I’d probably go and see it anyway. 😀

The Scottish medic was **** awful

She had a couple of the best lines in the film if you ask me, although her character wasn’t exactly well developed.

She had a couple of the best lines in the film if you ask me, although her character wasn’t exactly well developed.

Appalling acting, stilted delvery, shite haircut. 🙂

why not just cast an old person [John Hurt?] as Weyland rather than a young fella in a latex mask

apparently there was a deleted scene of David and Wayland having a chat when Waylend was in the sleep chamber, in this scene he would have been a young Wayland, just before David bumps into Charlie Theron and says Wayland told him to ‘try harder’. Also remeber its part one of a series of films (hopefuly), so the Wayland character may reappear in a veraiaty of ages or guises.

the guys back was broken when they opened the bay door, so i doubt that a broken back would make much difference either.

Growing to be eight foot tall from 5 foot something will do that to you. If you remember, the guy standing on the loading bay ramp watched him stand up and ended up looking upwards by some significant way. So not only do the worms give you steel skin and superhuman strength (not to mention an inate desire to kill all humans), they also cause your back to grow 17 more vertebra.

I entirely accept this as a possibility.

Reading this thread reminds me a bit of people trying to fathom out and justify why the Bible doesn’t always seem logical 😀

the Bible doesn’t always seem logical

dont even go there….. 😆

plus the opening scene was a complete waste of time and crap

The more I read this thread, the more I want to go back and see it again. I loved it. Less immediately action orientated (in a space commandos shoot em up sort of way) than I expected. But I now think its all the better for it.