Osbourne says no to currency union.

No it isn’t.

Why on earth are you on here if you’re not having fun?

My problem is I perhaps sometimes forget that the Glasgow habit of continually taking the p*** out of everyone and everything might not translate to strangers on the internet, so people so,ermines think I’m being serious when I rarely am.

Why on earth are you on here if you’re not having fun?

My problem is I perhaps sometimes forget that the Glasgow habit of continually taking the p*** out of everyone and everything might not translate to strangers on the internet, so people so,ermines think I’m being serious when I rarely am.

Er… I wasn’t being serious.

& yes I do have an EH postcode.

It’s interesting, after talking to lots of people both Yes and No, ive come to a general conclusion: people vote No for selfish reasons, and vote Yes for altruistic ones.

As one of the – still – undecided, I was leaning more towards a Yes vote for that reason, until I heard Salmond talking about how we have 2% of the EUs population, 61% of its oil, 40 odd % of its fish stocks, x% of its renewables, and decided that’s equally selfish, just different parameters.

(figures along those lines, from memory)

Er… I wasn’t being serious.

Dammit, that’s not fair, you’re supposed to use an emoticon – them’s the rules.

Seeing as this issue has been raised several times, this may put it to bed.

Release by Police Federation blowing holes in the press claims of aggression between the 2 contending parties.[/url]

that’s equally selfish, just different parameters

Yes. I think it’s trying to prove that an independent Scotland would cope economically, but it’s not the most subtle argument.

They don’t like it up ’em do they?

I notice you pick an Englishman’s phrase rather than the Scot Frazer’s “We’re all doomed”
🙂

Well, perhaps there is no point in reasoning with those who have resolved not to learn from history. Nevertheless, let me try to explain why Scotland is not – and is highly unlikely to become – a Scandinavian country.

Niall Ferguson sums it up well in the Torygraph

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11102126/Scottish-referendum-Alone-Scotland-will-go-back-to-being-a-failed-state.html

Yes. I think it’s trying to prove that an independent Scotland would cope economically, but it’s not the most subtle argument.

Aye, maybe that was his point, but it came across as ‘we’ve got all this, why share it’.

Aye, maybe that was his point, but it came across as ‘we’ve got all this, why share it’.

It’s a mistake both sides have sometimes made in this campaign, assuming that Scots only care about Scotland.

And my very last word tonight – a not very authoritative poll.

(You lot probably didn’t realise I was a titled landowner 🙂 )

You’re not the Mr epicyclo? 😯

Aye, maybe that was his point, but it came across as ‘we’ve got all this, why share it’.
[/quote]Surely the point is that you trade it for resources you don’t have?

Well, some thoroughly rousing bedtime viewing to help before your big choice

Best of luck to all tomorrow

hope it doesn’t end up creating too may rifts in your society like last time…

Anyone know when they are due to announce? Have the got Ant & Dec to do it?

The Glasgow count isn’t expected to finish until about 5am – it’ll be a very long night.

The final result should be 6-7:30 am. They will result each region as it comes out during the night, but as we have nothing to compare it to, it won’t tell us much, unless it is a landslide.

A No vote is for a more certain and wealthier Scotland. A Yes vote is one focused purely on the emotional feel good of Independence. It’s the No vote which is altruistic as its far easier to help people in a wealthy country. The Yes vote is the selfish one

A no vote will result in half the population of Scotland being disappointed.

A yes vote will result in the whole population of Scotland being disappointed.

Don’t be silly, a Yes Vote will result in the streets of Edinburgh being paved with gold which will trigger a mass exodus of UK based economic migrants to travel north to seek riches fame and fortune. It’s a tory masterpiece and CMD will be rubbing his hands – cure overcrowding in London/SE, reduce welfare payments, never have to speak to AS again.

I think a No vote is probably less disappointing, on aggregate- the Yes campaign already won the consolation prize (assuming, for the moment, that the promises are delivered), and lets be honest, most of us never expected to be this close in the first place. We still get to say “Wow, we came really close despite it all” and “Well they said we couldn’t have devo max but we took it anyway”. And then cap it off with NEXT TIME.

No voters don’t get any consolation at all in the event of a Yes. I’d definitely rather be a disappointed Yes than a disappointed No, that’ll be a bitter pill. Anyone else?

Well the advantage of being a yes voter is that you get to be disappointed either way 😉

I will bet anyone 50p Scotland will still be part of the UK after this vote.

50 English Pence or 50 Scottish Pence?

My personal opinion is that only about a third of the voters on each side will be really disappointed if the result goes against them. I think for the other two thirds it will range from minor disappointment to a fleeting feeling of oh well that’s that then. The large number of undecideds and those that come out with the line my heart says … but my head says … suggests a large proportion of voters who could have went either way and could live happily enough with either result.

All this talk of half the population will be devastated one way or the other and deep divisions will rumble on is misplaced and not reflective of what is actually happening at all.

aracer – Member

Well the advantage of being a yes voter is that you get to be disappointed either way

It’s all win, this Yes lark. Not too late folks!

wilburt – Member
I will bet anyone 50p Scotland will still be part of the UK after this vote.

I would bet a million pounds on that happening. a Yes vote doesn’t result in immediate independence. Friday morning Scotland will still be in the UK (and EU).

unfortunately i’m only good for 50p, so your original wager is accepted

grahamt1980 – Member
Kona bunny please feel free to come up with whatever version of reality suits you. But please try to use a slightly higher level of intelligence when you post.
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no. calling BC an anti-English bigot is just bullshit and anyone who says it is a liar. there’s no need to waste words in saying so.

On yer marks, get set………GO

On yer marks, get set………GO

Polls don’t open till 7 do they?

Unless they’ve pre-emptively adopted a different time zone and it’s 7 already 🙂

Yeah hang on keen lad, I’m still in my towel eating my breakfast.

Konabunny. You are showing your prejudice again. Please show me where I said anything about anti english. I said anyone but the Scottish.

Have a good day anyway.

Re Northwind; I would agree;what an opportunity,short term pain for long term gain.I believe the UK is on a downward spiral where it is increasingly contracting South with an impact on not just us,but Northern England as well; HS2 anybody? I have some guilt in leaving folks in the North of England to the whims of London,but hope MT’s free Yorkshire campaign gathers pace.
Since we are doing bets,would any of the many non voters on here care to bet their houses on the new powers granted ever being in a queens speech? didn’t think so! When,not if,the promises are broken we will do it all over again.We need 40-45% to keep it an issue,NO needs over 60% to kill it.

I hope every voter has a peaceful and pleasant day.

OK yes voters Let’s do this thing.

At the age of 52 I have been up since 530 excited to be able to vote in this referendum. Unable to sleep. I can confidently predict that will never happen again in my lifetime 😀

Unfortunately, this all obscures the most important vote of the day in a wee corner of Fife.

Will the R&A cow-tow to corporate sponsorship BS and pander to the PC brigade. Bloody HSBC driving this nonsense with their Open sponsorship.

Vote No gentleman – you are one of the best in the world at what you do. Woman and golf clubs, you are asking for trouble 😉

THM 😀 A good day for burying news.

Time to go put an X in a box.
Good luck people.

It’s interesting, after talking to lots of people both Yes and No, ive come to a general conclusion: people vote No for selfish reasons, and vote Yes for altruistic ones

Only if you spin it that way.

“Would you like to go into that cage with that hungry lion?”
“No thanks”
“Selfish! You’re just looking after your own skin!”
“It’s dangerous”
“You’re just afraid!”
“The lion will eat me”
“You’re scaremongering!”

See how easy it is?

Does anyone know if No voters have said they’ll move South in the event of a Yes?

I do hope they read out the result in an X factor style with salmond and darling standing next to each other and then they have a hug afterwards.
Of course there will be a 3:minute drum roll before Vernon Kay gives the result.