On One carbon raised stay +tyre prototype

Looks very similar to that Shand bike that everybody complained out, I’m sure OnOne will be undercutting Shands pricing if it is the same Chinese ‘catalogue’ frame.

I know it’s just the angle of the photo but the nds crank looks mighty close to the chainstay.

Wouldn’t be the first time they released a bike to customers that didn’t work.

is 10 months the longest thread resurrection ever?

is 10 months the longest thread resurrection ever?

I suspect not.

Rik – Member

Looks very similar to that Shand bike that everybody complained out, I’m sure OnOne will be undercutting Shands pricing if it is the same Chinese ‘catalogue’ frame.

Bingo. Or should I say Rango. (what a stupid name)

There’s plenty of crank clearance all round, no issue with tyres and mud space, nice routing for cables. The Rango has a flip-chip in the rear drops so the geometry is adjustable between vanilla 650b up to 29+. The geometry data is on the site. No wizard’s sleeve seat tube.

No wizard’s sleeve seat tube.

Just a 1.67976578″ headset, upside down disc mount and a 120mm rear hub spacing then?

sq225917 – Member

There’s plenty of crank clearance all round, no issue with tyres and mud space, nice routing for cables. The Rango has a flip-chip in the rear drops so the geometry is adjustable between vanilla 650b up to 29+. The geometry data is on the site. No wizard’s sleeve seat tube. Do you have any normal bikes up for release sq? Looking for a winter hardtail along the lines of a lurcher (looks like the lurcher is finished now?)

It’s on their site today…
http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/CBOORAN27PLUSGX1/on-one-rango-carbon-275–sram-gx1-mountain-bike

Might be just my thoughts, but on-one don’t seem to have made any frames that were instant hits/classics like the inbred/456, could be the lack of Brant.

Might be just my thoughts, but on-one don’t seem to have made any frames that were instant hits/classics like the inbred/456, could be the lack of Brant.

FFFY 😀

Good to see they are keeping to the tradition of releasing a bike with pictures that dont match the spec list. Blutos? odd choice of fork for that bike.

On-one, keeping standards low since… forever 😀

Described as a trail bike for 130-160 forks (as per the Size & Specs) but with a 69.5° head angle….Hmmm, seems steep but then it does come with 120mm forks and also it doesn’t say what size fork the geometry spec is based on 😕

Obviously a direct rip off of the trek stache carbon, but they’ve built it to a decent price point…..

Good to see they are keeping to the tradition of releasing a bike with pictures that dont match the spec list. Blutos? odd choice of fork for that bike.

I think the bought all those Blutos from the Amazon PSA the other week.

The geo chart is hilarious too, chainstay length 432-533mm depending on size. 135mm dropouts as well apparently.

506mm fork length, which I suppose could be a sagged Bluto, but odd choice to use given all the other bikes are listed with static Geo.

You think they might have worked out how to run a business by now.

STATO – You think they might have worked out how to run a business by now.

It was recently valued at £25 million. As much as I dislike them, they have done really well from pissing about and being shit.

Yes but think how much they could be worth if they tried, I think that’s why the CEO decided against the sale to investors, he was worried they might want to make it bigger than they are capable of handling.

It’s exactly the same catalogue frame as this afaict:
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/new-shand-oykel-in-carbon

Lots of info/geometry etc in that thread.

Top-tube / seat-tube junction looks quite a bit different to the Shand version, certainly more extension above the TT, HT junction looks slightly different too. Possibly different front end but same rear?

Also wondering why its not actually searchable on the on-one site, just by the link posted above.

[edit] actually the rear end is different too. Dropouts not the same, seatstays join differently. Could it be On-one have actually done this themselves! Amazing.

STATO – Yes but think how much they could be worth if they tried, I think that’s why the CEO decided against the sale to investors, he was worried they might want to make it bigger than they are capable of handling.

In an interview he said something along the lines of he’d be bored if he sold the company and what did he need 25 million for. I very much doubt he would have concerns that a company he’s sold would become too big.

I very much doubt he would have concerns that a company he’s sold would become too big.

He still would have been MD, probably would’ve been fired pretty sharpish for sabotaging growth with crazy strategy ideas, like doing some dodgy repairs on warranty frames and trying to sell them on ebay, rather than just binning them like any normal company.

Yep – you’re right – quite a few subtle differences now I’ve seen the proper side-on shot.

Rear dropout is the most obvious one, but the shape of the driveside chainstay is more pleasing on the On-one imo.

Then the top tube/seat tube junction is a bit different too.

I think it looks great. I’d be interested if the geo is right but the info on the On-One site is all over the place.

I like it but why can’t they raise the non drive side stay as well?
My OCD can’t handle it.

interview is here, good read

https://rouleur.cc/journal/bicycles/planet-x-brand-interview-history

These might be different sizes, but I’ve tried to match the front wheel horizontal rim diameter.

Nobody mention the Shand Oykel…………..

http://www.shandcycles.com/bikes/oykel/ damn it.

On One have lost their way massively for me, the brand doesn’t stand for anything anymore, their website is worse than ever, hardly works at all on mobile, poorly written, laid out and innacurate product specs. and their pricing is all over the place.

It really has become the pile it high sell it cheap (today, but maybe double the price tomorrow) bargain bin last resort for most things, I rarely bother looking for stuff from them now. A few years ago you at least you knew what they did and stood for, cheap, fun bikes and kit, now a fair bit of it isn’t very cheap (some days), a lot of it is crap, and they seem to just follow what everyone else is doing, just worse.

AlexSimon – Member

These might be different sizes, but I’ve tried to match the front wheel horizontal rim diameter.

Which would be a useful comparison… if they were the same wheel size 😀

Stache is 29+, the Rango pictured is 27.5+

You could do that comparison with most bikes though, just because its got one elevated chainstay doesn’t mean its suddenly has weird geometry, they are as similar to each other as they are anything else.

I think it looks like a nice bike and is on my list of potential newbies.

Why do people still seem to be surprised though when Planet-X/On-One release a bike that looks like something designed by somebody else? Planet-X started by selling jump bike bits sourced from Asian factory catalogues, and the first Inbreds’ geometry and aesthetics were a complete rip-off of the Airborne Lucky Strike.

Stache is 29+, the Rango pictured is 27.5+

Ah! That’s why it was so difficult! Sorry.

I like it but why can’t they raise the non drive side stay as well?

Like this?

From here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/smoooth.bike/

It is a bit difficult to tell due to lack of descriptions on the product page but it looks like the Rango has dropouts that flip between two positions for different wheel sizes. It is a real shame that they haven’t done adjustable vertical dropouts instead.