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…new Hanzz – looks great – or?
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andreasrhoenFree Member
Most Cube bikes appear to be a bit (or very!) boring – but this new bike looks great (or?):
Coil shock:
Fox Van RC, 222x70mm, Rebound & Compression Adjust
Fork:
Suntour Durolux RC, 20x110mm, Tapered, 180mmThe Hanzz 190 race 27.5 is the “low cost version” of the new Hanzz 190 and sells for around 2.3 k.
With Marzocchi Bomber 380 CR, Compression & Rebound Adjust, 200mm fork instead of Durolux: 2.5 k.
Which is not bad at all!Surprised to find a such a beauty from Cube.
What’s your opinion?
mikewsmithFree Member190 mean 190mm? Looks like a DH bike that might pedal up…
Having got to 170/160 on my meta it’s good but maybe a little too much, this looks like it’s spot on for the bike park, getting you across the flat bits in whistler etc. not sure I’ll see many at the top of a decent climb thoughhodgyndFree MemberI think the colour scheme is shite ..if we are purely talking about looks o/w ok
P-JayFree MemberLooks wise it’s a 5/10 from me, there’s not much to dislike, horizontal shock mounted on the downtube which for me is the starting point for a good looking bike, but there doesn’t seem to be any cool little features to ‘trick’ this or that also the seat tube is just a straight pipe – nothing wrong with that though – it’s nice to see a ‘park bike’ with a price in the £2000 range.
For me, I’d go the the ‘SL’ though, which cannot stand for Super-Light Shirley? Anyway, proper triple clamp bombers and it’s silver.
northerntomFree MemberThere’s a few of these coming out again now. New Nomad, the Commencal SX etc.
Don’t really see the need, almost filling a gap that’s not really needed (bike industry through and through though I suppose).
Realistically, either buy a DH bike if you’re riding downhill, or buy an a trail bike for everything else. These fill a niche which just isn’t there.
mikewsmithFree MemberRealistically, either buy a DH bike if you’re riding downhill, or buy an a trail bike for everything else. These fill a niche which just isn’t there.
Plenty of uses, cheap and cheerful, will pedal some stuff and get you around a bit. If you have access to plenty of uplift then it’s a good cheap bike to keep your DH and Trail bike running sweet while you smash laps out.
andreasrhoenFree MemberLooks wise it’s a 5/10 from me
Was bored at work.
Looking out of the window doesn’t help. Rain.So I found the new Hanzz in the www.
For a Monday morning: this bike looks minimum 5/10 !
I would tend more in the direction of 6/10.
P-JayFree MemberRealistically, either buy a DH bike if you’re riding downhill, or buy an a trail bike for everything else. These fill a niche which just isn’t there.
For me, despite the single crown fork on the model above, it’s an old-school cheap DH bike like an old A-Line or Big Hit. 190mm travel and coil shock without any kind of lock-out, nah, that’s not a climber.
Agreed on some of the new mega travel trail bikes though, they don’t even claim to be Enduro any more, I’m sure there’s some great places to use them, but it’s a fine line between that and a push/uplift and you might as well go full-retard with a DH bike then.
northerntomFree MemberPlenty of uses, cheap and cheerful, will pedal some stuff and get you around a bit. If you have access to plenty of uplift then it’s a good cheap bike to keep your DH and Trail bike running sweet while you smash laps out.
If you have enough cash to run a DH and trail bike, and have this as an in between, then good on you. If that’s the case though, it’s unlikely you would buy cheap and cheerful, you likely have enough cash to buy another DH bike.
Enduro/trail bikes these days are so capable that you almost don’t need a DH bike in most cases.
mikewsmithFree MemberProbably should have said or… Saw plenty in whistler that had something for just blasting out laps, same in other places with uplift. If I lived there then I’d not be running my enduro bike with nice wheels etc all day in a park, something like that would be good fun, just need to live in the right place
andreasrhoenFree MemberPersonal fave of their 2018 bikes is the new Stereo
but that’s a very different kind of “animal”. Carbon.
Too expensive to smash down into the rocks.mikewsmithFree MemberToo expensive to smash down into the rocks.
take a look at the 50 to 01 vid, lots of hauling carbon down rocks, alu can do quite badly when you do that to it.
Although I was standing up for it only if you have the uplift and terrain, wouldn’t want to get it up a big hill myself
northerntomFree MemberProbably should have said or… Saw plenty in whistler that had something for just blasting out laps, same in other places with uplift. If I lived there then I’d not be running my enduro bike with nice wheels etc all day in a park, something like that would be good fun, just need to live in the right place
Totally agree on this. It just surprises me there is a market for this that bike companies are willing to fill. Must be a fairly small market.
warpcowFree MemberI agree with Mike. This sort of bike would be an ideal +1 instead of the trail bike for the local parks, but in that price-range I’d probably just go for the cheaper YT Tues, which also has proper tyres rather than pricepoint crap, and sacrifice some versatility.
I can see Cube’s interest being getting them in as hire bikes at the various central-European parks.
chakapingFull MemberThere’s a few of these coming out again now. New Nomad, the Commencal SX etc.
Don’t really see the need, almost filling a gap that’s not really needed (bike industry through and through though I suppose).
Realistically, either buy a DH bike if you’re riding downhill, or buy an a trail bike for everything else. These fill a niche which just isn’t there.
I refer the honourable gentleman to my previous post, freeride bikes are coming back.
Always preferred them to DH bikes myself, you can pedal them to access trails in the Alps, winch up fire roads easier and they don’t need to be ridden at mach 3 to make sense like a DH bike.
Yeah a 160mm or 170mm travel enduro bike is very capable, but they just don’t have that lovely coil plushness and ability to swallow almost anything.
mikewsmithFree MemberI refer the honourable gentleman to my previous post, freeride bikes are coming back.
Freeride never left, the UK freeride lite of hucking off little things is still going then? The big boys are doing on DH bikes
wobbliscottFree MemberThe traditional lines are being blurred due to new technologies. Something like a Nomad can give you a wider window of uses making a 1 bike quiver killer a real option, especially for the majority of us who are weekend warriors with average skills at best. Why have two or more bikes when you can have 1? I’ve been on DH uplift days on my 140/150mm trail bike and had a blast. I’m still the limiting factor and not the bike and i’m no slower than the majority of those who consider themselves more ‘hard core’ on their dedicated DH bikes. It’s still the case that it is the rider and not the bike that makes the difference.
Something like the Nomad or similar seem like pretty good all-round quiver killer bikes unless you’re wanting to specialise in one specific area of the sport. The old fashioned views that you only need alot of travel if you’er some sort of semi-pro are just not true anymore – modern long travel bikes can climb and be fun, they’re more forgiving, boost the riders confidence and are less fatiguing meaning you can enjoy them for longer.
ta11pau1Full Memberdaver27 – Member
Personal fave of their 2018 bikes is the new Stereo, really nice looking bike that isStereo
And a comparative bargain for all the kit its got on it, AND they have sorted out their sizing it would seem.
Was about to post this, never taken a second look at a cube until this one, it’s currently top of my list if I buy a FS trail bike next summer.
Fox factory everything, carbon frame with decent geometry, GX eagle, and a light (1700g) Newmen wheelset.
I do have a bit of a soft spot for gold though, this is my motorbike
Not to everyone’s taste but I love it!
chakapingFull MemberFreeride never left, the UK freeride lite of hucking off little things is still going then? The big boys are doing on DH bikes
I’m not sure what you’re saying here Mike?
Hardly anyone’s been making 180mm single-crown coil bikes since enduro arrived, but now they seem to be springing up all over the shop.
andreasrhoenFree Membertravel enduro bike is very capable, but they just don’t have that lovely coil plushness and ability to swallow almost anything
What beautiful words! Sounds like a poem to me.
Yes: ..that lovely coil plushness..In my opinion: this is beauty!
mikewsmithFree MemberI’m not sure what you’re saying here Mike?
Laods of people are still doing freeride, you know massive hucks off cliffs drops that look like you need a parachute, gaps the size of canyons.
Anyway the bigger than a trail bike not quite a DH bike has always been there, but again mostly as the park bike type thing, you coil lovers all missed the big step up in air tech recently too
andreasrhoenFree Memberyou coil lovers all missed the big step up in air tech recently too
Have to admit: this is correct.
Part of the freeride beauty so: price tag around 2.4 k
price tag “plus” coil “plus” aluminium…
nickcFull MemberThat may have well have “bike park rental fleet” written down the side of the top tube
northerntomFree MemberI refer the honourable gentleman to my previous post, freeride bikes are coming back.
Always preferred them to DH bikes myself, you can pedal them to access trails in the Alps, winch up fire roads easier and they don’t need to be ridden at mach 3 to make sense like a DH bike.
Yeah a 160mm or 170mm travel enduro bike is very capable, but they just don’t have that lovely coil plushness and ability to swallow almost anything.
I know they’re coming back, i just don’t know why or who is buying them. They almost seem like the worst of both worlds – Not as good at DH as DH bike, and not as good at pedaling as an ‘enduro’ bike, also likely the same DH performance as them.
Also, quite a few enduro bikes now have coil shocks. And air shocks are used just as much on DH bikes now anyway…
chakapingFull MemberGotcha now Mike.
Freeride events like Rampage are all DH bikes now for obvious reasons, while the FMB Tour seems to mainly be on hardtails. I’d hazard a guess that most of us don’t really do either of them.
you coil lovers all missed the big step up in air tech recently too
I’ve been riding a Vivid Air and Fox X2 this year. They’re really, really good but still don’t quite have the effortless fluidity of a CCDB Coil.
NorthwindFull Memberta11pau1 – Member
I do have a bit of a soft spot for gold though, this is my motorbike
I like the gold forks, not sure about the beige frame though
honourablegeorgeFull MemberLooks short, high, steep and cheap. It’s a Cube allright.
andreasrhoenFree MemberPart of the freeride beauty so: price tag around 2.4 k
price tag “plus” coil “plus” aluminium…
from Nick:That may have well have “bike park rental fleet” written down the side of the top tube
Good hint.
Translated: a work-horse.Work-horse type mountain bikes:
biggest compliment ever!
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