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Finally done how I want it.
Just faffing about a small trim to the bars and maybe a lower rise stem. Then I can bar tape it.
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Posted : 21/12/2012 8:34 am
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Posted : 21/12/2012 8:44 am
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Does it do wheelies?


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 8:54 am
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I do hope so :O)


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 8:57 am
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Interesting.........very interesting 8)

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Posted : 21/12/2012 8:58 am
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Posted : 21/12/2012 8:59 am
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The rear stays are a work of art up close.
Flatten, manipulated and all sorts.
It's very subtle.


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 9:00 am
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Do you look like this??


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 9:04 am
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This would work

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Posted : 21/12/2012 9:07 am
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Not even close. Must try harder on the beard front.
Saying that, he looks a bit like one of my old school mates dads. He played golf though, not a rider from memory.


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 9:08 am
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fasthaggis - Not sure about the crash protection of the headgear.


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 9:09 am
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I know, 😉

What would TJ say ,etc,etc 🙂


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 9:16 am
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TJ? Did he have an opinion? Never noticed. 😆


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 9:18 am
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It is a nice bike BTW, but I couldn't resist could I..

Tell us how it rides and where you ride it/terrain etc..

Interested to hear.


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 9:22 am
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My right angle OCD says there are too many bends in that seatpost/seat tube combo. Just looking at that has set it off. If you put that bike in front of me on a regular basis, my head would explode


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 9:24 am
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needs a bigger loop of cable into the rear mech Tim.

Looks lovely 🙂


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 9:24 am
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Will do Bikebouy. It's built for the terrain I ride (SDW) but I fancy trying one of those silly clown front wheels as well. Just for laughs.

I do have a small beard. It's only because I'm self employed and very lazy when it comes to shaving (well, lazy and not very skillful with a razor unless removing skin counts?)


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 9:26 am
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Luke - it's an "organic" loop of cable. I stress for a good 5 mins about the curve on that 😳

At least it's not a cut and shut.


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 9:27 am
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I've got a great basket that would fit to those forks..


 
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Not my cup o' tea but it's well matched for one of them reallyexpensivegotcurlybits bikes.

Rear cable needs reigning in a tad and either B-screw or chain length need attention as the mech looks a little tucked. I'd want a little more security on the front chainring like a bash.

Anyhow, it's stealthy and shiny 8)

This one's for you two:


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 9:31 am
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Is that no front mech or chain device? Was thinking about doing the same. How do you find it? Does the cahin come off a lot?


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 9:34 am
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Basket for the bars surely???
Herman - the chain was big to big plus two so technically correct. It's in the smallest cog at the back so wil look a little tucked. Can't bash as it's a homebrew XTR M960 adaption. It's got an N Gear stop on the seat tube but that's not obvious from the pic.


 
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You should be able to make out the N-stop thingie in this pic.
Not ridden yet. Only finished it last night and I have two boys all day demanding attention so no chance of a quick hack.


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 9:36 am
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I love mine - no decent pics though.
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What rims are you using? Have to say the wide 35mm P35 rims are great for getting the mosty out of big tyres.


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 9:44 am
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Damn you clink. You can't go posting pics like that when its so wet and sloppy on all the trails. Makes me yearn for the days of dry dusty trails...


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 9:47 am
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very nice indeed.......enjoy.


 
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Posted : 21/12/2012 9:49 am
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yep - first week of summer hols in Wales last year - it was fab!


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 9:57 am
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Atomlab Superlite ones. Skinny so not ideal for super fat tyres.
I'm more Jey than Core.
2.25 Ardents are bulbous compared to my normal choice of tyre :O)
How's it as a SS?


 
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I spotted the N-Gear and secretly did the respect nod. Fair enough with the chain, the B screw could help add a little tension for security if you find it's needed. You can bend the guide plate for the Jump Stop, it works very well like this:

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Posted : 21/12/2012 10:07 am
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[i]At least it's not a cut and shut. [/i]

turns out that one of the dropouts is cracked so now trying to decide if a set of Paragon Ti dropouts are worth the investment.

Got a Scandal 29er in the meantime and quite pleased with it. Obvious observation of the day: 29ers are a bit different to 26" 🙂


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 10:07 am
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Great as SS - weight distribution is spot on for out of the saddle climbing. Only issue is my hands want to be further forward when climbing - which you can do but bar is narrower there.

P35's with 2.4's are a revelation. Low pressure traction, grip and comfort are outstanding. This is the setup, I think, that Jeff recommends. If you get a chance try some - don't think you'd go back to narrower rims/tyres.


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 10:08 am
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Ooooh . . . want! Looks amazing! 😛

Not really a short-term test-pilot's bike though is it 😕


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 10:09 am
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Herman - oooo, that's a top tweek. I'll be trying that out! Adjusting the B screw messes with the earth gravitational field doesn't it?

Luke - that'll be an expensive frame by the time it's ready to work.


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 10:11 am
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I had a Spaceframe as a demo for a while from Biff. It had the big front rim which was fun but I found it a bit bouncy. Probably too much air in the tyre (old habits)
Will see how I get on with the skinny ones as I've got a (Black) Trek 69er SS so don't need another one (yet)

Mama- short term? Nope, it's taken too long to get here so not a short term decision.


 
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I found the tweek on another site, I can't see the point in more expensive top guides.

The B screw's been the answer to some frustrating drivetrain conundrums for me in the past but it's such a quick and easy thing to adjust. It's not quite as sensitive as a gear cable adjuster, but still stick to no more than a half turn at a time. Whack 'er in the big cog, adjust, shift up and down and repeat until it looks/feels right. The top jockey should be clear of the cassette as you probably know, you'll hear it purr and tick if it isn't.

The world's meant to end today, there's nothing to lose 😉


 
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Mama- short term? Nope, it's taken too long to get here so not a short term decision.

No, I was referring to my own purchasing habits Tim (although I think I may have found the cure, no really). Hope you have a long and happy relationship with that one - really does look spot-on!


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 10:37 am
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[i]Luke - that'll be an expensive frame by the time it's ready to work.[/i]

that's why I'm umming and ahhing - say another £200 to get it up and running makes it owe me £400. In two minds, really.


 
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Nice to see fence painted, leaves swept, and weeds pulled before taking the pic.

Gold star for OP.


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 12:03 pm
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Well I am a gardener by trade however, fence not painted, leaves blown away and weeds died in the frost :O)

Luke - if it rides well then it's worth doing. If not then hang it on the wall.

Mama - I thought you had that sorted years ago. Wasn't it small Kona's that you had a problem with? I'm very happy with this one. 100% me and no compromise to style/taste/fashion.


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 12:10 pm
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[url= ]The only man fit to ride the jones...[/url]


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 12:11 pm
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andy - help me out with that pic? No idea mate.


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 12:18 pm
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Johnny Cash, the man in Black


 
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timbur- you said you demoed the Spaceframe. Just wondered how the ride of the diamond frame compared and wether it was just a financial decision to go with that?


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 12:56 pm
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Def a financial decision. I would have loved a Space frame but it was a stretch too far for me at present.
The Spaceframe is so neutral at pootling speed but it comes into it's own when you ramp up gear and give it some. The Diamond is like a big toy. Quick, nimble and a lot of fun but want to roll over everything.
If you're interested then get hold of Charlie the Bikemonger or Biff and arrange a demo. Biff has a diamond locally and Charlie has a Space.
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Man in Black? And there's me thinking it was Will Smith.

(I'll get my coat)


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 1:07 pm
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Let down by the cables IMO.


 
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Bumped into Charlie recently and had a very quick go on a Spaceframe he had built up for someone. It was a gamechanger. Yeah, I would find it a stretch to get the spaceframe, but the diamond a bit more within reach. Is Biff down south do you know?


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 1:19 pm
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Yeap, just East of me in Eastbourne.
Try;
biff@yesweareontheweb.com
Watch out, he's a very nice man. Mention I sent you as I stil owe him money.

Mackem - I didn't want it to loog too much like a bruise and silver Goodridge cables happened to be in the shed. Guess I could have used the carbon coloured ones but that seemed wrong as well being as it's steel. I even avoided using carbon stackers for that same reason.


 
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Opps, Charlie has a demo Spaceframe. It was the one I built up and had for a few months. X9 groupo on it.


 
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Looking good, just waiting for mine 8)


 
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Timbur, has it got black decals on or no decals ?


 
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Nice green one here:
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No decals - I had a word with Biff and appealed to his lazy side. I have the sheet of them if I change my mind (I won't)

That green bike was in my shed as well. I tinkered with the brakes. The green is a lot more acceptable in real life than it is in the picture. Saying that I still couldn't live with it.


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 2:25 pm
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I have the sheet of them if I change my mind (I won't)

Good call, my black steel Jones was decal-free for a while then I put the white ones on - it looks better all-black. But I left them on anyway, will remove as soon as they get scuffed.

I love the green frames, 2 wrongs make something that just looks nuts. I'm a sucker for black bikes tho and the Jones really suits it.


 
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It's not a photogenic green that's for sure. Somewhere there's a pic of one in Germany where the build included a lot of ano red with the green frame and fork. Lots of wrongs just make it wrong.


 
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Mama - I thought you had that sorted years ago. Wasn't it small Kona's that you had a problem with?

He he, well small anything really - I just can't help myself. Down to just one bike now and two frames (FS geared and hardtail singlespeed) which I alternate when boredom sets in.


 
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I need to do that as well.
Too much not being used in the shed.


 
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Mines going black with as much black as poss , with both 29 and Fat front options to play with . Not having a truss fork though at this stage.


 
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There's someone selling a truss fork on the uk fatbike website. £350 I think.


 
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Yeah I saw that 8) thanks


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 9:18 pm
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Having ridden the truss and standard forks I would go with the truss if it's an option.


 
Posted : 21/12/2012 9:32 pm
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Yeap, save a bit mor eand go Truss.
Talk to Biff.


 
Posted : 22/12/2012 8:03 am
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Very nice indeed - spinal tap black!
I went 1x10 on mine with clutch mech and no chain guide - no chain jumping yet.


 
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De-sticker the rims Tim and it'll look ace. Gx


 
Posted : 22/12/2012 9:12 am
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Grant - exactly what Biff said :O)


 
Posted : 22/12/2012 11:21 am
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very nice indeed. I agree with Biff and YG.


 
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Bifff knows best :0)


 
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I think the green looks ace too btw.


 
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Grea bike! You definitely need wide rims and 2.4 tyres though - I've had my rear tyre at 15psi with tubes - though I'd hold back until the Surly 50mm rims are available - a fat front is a must too 😀 - if you fancy hooking up for a ride, I'm not far away - maybe get Biff along too as I've been meaning to arrange a ride with him too.


 
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Those diamond frames are looking lovely to me now....it's taken a couple of years but the aesthetic of the diamond + truss fork has now grown on me 😀
Anyone care to say if it is a night and day difference between the standard from and a spaceframe?
(not that I should be entertaining such thoughts at all given the state of my bank balance).

I agree with what others have said about rim stickers though...once you've gone fully black you'll never look back.....(so i've heard)


 
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Anyone care to say if it is a night and day difference between the standard from and a spaceframe

I have a ti SF and a steel diamond, for what that comparison is worth .. Bought the ti first, was so impressed that I went for a steel one for tours/bikepacking/risking on a plane. IMO there's a difference but the geometry and truss fork are the main things, material and space/diamond is a fine-tune. The ti is smoother, lighter and flexier in all directions. Definately some vertical spring that adds comfort. Steel diamond is a riot, very direct and totally solid in a good way. The diamond is still a comfy rigid bike since so much it comes from the rider positioning, but it's no flexy noodle and that has trade-offs. Both are great bikes in their own right.


 
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FRC - sounds good. Will have to work it around kids and life though so sometime in the new year???


 
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cheers jameso!


 
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