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  • Legal advice please – cancelling a new car dispute
  • BigButSlimmerBloke
    Free Member

    Plus I want this thread to run and run.

    Good man, but what we need is more uninformed speculation and insults not facts and talking sense.

    aracer
    Free Member

    It was an attempt to point out that ling’s hijacked the air ambulance thing in a way which will make her look good and anybody who criticises her look bad without it costing her anything. I can’t deny that she’s good at that sort of thing – it’s certainly an interesting suggestion of hers when the original premise was her donating because of the free publicity she’s getting.

    johndoh
    Free Member

    Perchy Wins The Day

    Junkyard
    Free Member

    For a second there I thought this was more about helping the Air Ambulance, rather than financially crippling ME

    I thought it was just a way for you to offer the money with some obvious get out clauses that meant it would never happen

    I’d offer £100, if matched by a generous number of posters here, and also the OP, Geordiedick00.

    Ok I will offer £1000 if you say you are wrong on the T & C claim with trading standards, Geordiemick does the same mount of money as well as a generous* number of STW posters.

    I look generous now dont I and not at all petty 8)

    * generous is a vague enough a term that i can get out of it no matter the number – I assure you all that Trading standards approved its use here. I am writing it , some of you know my name and know me, so it therefore must be true DONT ASK FOR PROOF

    perchypanther
    Free Member

    some of you know my name and know me

    Fred? Is that you? 😉

    CharlieMungus
    Free Member

    I’ve offered £100, if a few others joined in, and the OP, it would be great. What’s wrong with everyone?

    Ok Ling, I’ve just donated £100 to the Air Ambulance, now it’s your turn.

    ling
    Free Member

    Here we go, yes I hijacjked the Helicopter.

    But anyone else could have donated, too? … you just didn’t, did you?

    – Ling

    gobuchul
    Free Member

    Since she has been able to use stealth ads here and also seems very pleased that this site has generated extra revenues through click bait perhaps she should consider donating some of the profit from this to, say, the local Air Ambulance?

    This was the post that started this charity thing. I don’t blame Ling for throwing it back.

    STW staff, by their own admission, have benefited from this thread and have said they are basically going to drink the profits. Surely they should donate that ad revenue to the Air Ambulance??????

    tomhoward
    Full Member

    Ok Ling, I’ve just donated £100 to the Air Ambulance, now it’s your turn

    Have you got ID? You know, as proof?

    CharlieMungus
    Free Member

    Here we go, yes I hijacjked the Helicopter.

    But anyone else could have donated, too? … you just didn’t, did you?
    what???

    outofbreath
    Free Member

    Can anyone find the criminal offence committed when the 14 day cooling off period doesn’t feature in the T&Cs.

    I’m not disputing it exists, but my google skills are weak.

    perchypanther
    Free Member

    I’ve just asked my Brother-in-Law to donate £100 to the Air Ambulance on my behalf.

    wwaswas
    Full Member

    Ok I will offer £1000 if you say you are wrong

    Junkyard
    Free Member

    anyone else could have donated, too?

    I donated 10 x what you did – where by donate means makes empty promise never to be fulfilled on the internet without money ever having been given to the charity

    ling
    Free Member

    tomhoward – Member
    Ok Ling, I’ve just donated £100 to the Air Ambulance, now it’s your turn
    Have you got ID? You know, as proof?

    Yes. HERE

    Now your turn… 🙂

    wwaswas – Member
    Ok I will offer £1000 if you say you are wrong

    I am wrong.

    – Ling

    Jakester
    Free Member

    outofbreath – Member
    Can anyone find the criminal offence committed when the 14 day cooling off period doesn’t feature in the T&Cs.

    I’m not disputing it exists, but my google skills are weak.

    I’m not aware of it being a criminal offence, but that’s because I’m not a criminal lawyer.

    Best I can find is the powers of the regulator conferred under Schedule 3 to seek an order that a business’s T&C are non-compliant.

    andyrm
    Free Member

    makes empty promise never to be fulfilled

    ……and so we go full circle to the first post and how this wonderful little earner started

    wwaswas
    Full Member

    wwaswas – Member
    Ok I will offer £1000 if you say you are wrong

    I am wrong.

    But, but, but.

    Junkyard just cost me £1000.

    Can I cancel on his behalf?

    tomhoward
    Full Member

    Ling, I was quoting CharlieMungus, not you. Try to keep up.

    Fair play for the donation though. At least there has been a winner come from this mess

    andyrm
    Free Member

    Don’t worry wwaswas, a white knight shall verily be along to protect your honour.

    ling
    Free Member

    Well, you all seem full of hot air.

    Stuff the air-ambulance, eh?

    …and I made sure my donation was to be used solely on cyclists, too.

    – Ling

    wwaswas
    Full Member

    a white knight shall verily be along to protect your honour.

    I rather burnt my bridges with Poopscoop on page 15 🙁

    My habit of using italics to quote people finally catches me out.

    thegreatape
    Free Member

    This money is specifically to be used to scrape ungrateful cyclists up. – Ling

    😀

    aracer
    Free Member

    I’m impressed, seriously. You didn’t need to do all that “if” in your first post on the subject.

    Just how many animated gifs of you do you have though?

    nealglover
    Free Member

    Can anyone find the criminal offence committed when the 14 day cooling off period doesn’t feature in the T&Cs.

    I’m not disputing it exists, but my google skills are weak.

    The Consumer Contracts (Information, Cancellation and Additional Charges) Regulations 2013
    PART 2 CHAPTER 2 Regulation 19

    19.—(1) A trader is guilty of an offence if the trader enters into an off-premises contract to which regulation 10 applies but fails to give the consumer the information listed in paragraph (l), (m) or (n) of Schedule 2 in accordance with that regulation.
    (2) A person who is guilty of an offence under paragraph (1) is liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale.

    outofbreath
    Free Member

    makes empty promise never to be fulfilled

    Intentional irony?

    I’ve just asked my Brother-in-Law to donate £100 to the Air Ambulance on my behalf.

    😀

    ling
    Free Member

    Jakester – Member
    outofbreath – Member

    I’m not aware of it being a criminal offence, but that’s because I’m not a criminal lawyer.

    Best I can find is the powers of the regulator conferred under Schedule 3 to seek an order that a business’s T&C are non-compliant.

    Para-legal.

    Pssshhht.

    – Ling

    Drac
    Full Member

    Well done Ling apart from the silly comment on the donation.

    Ok Ling, I’ve just donated £100 to the Air Ambulance, now it’s your turn.

    Your turn for proof.

    lazybike
    Free Member

    Is it too late for “least said soonest mended”..

    outofbreath
    Free Member

    neal – The Consumer Contracts (Information, Cancellation and Additional Charges) Regulations 2013
    PART 2 CHAPTER 2 Regulation 19

    Thanks, that nails it.

    outofbreath
    Free Member

    Ling Valentine £100.00 “This money is specifically to be used to scrape ungrateful cyclists up. – Ling”

    Massive respect to Ling.

    perchypanther
    Free Member

    Ok Ling, I’ve just donated £100 to the Air Ambulance, now it’s your turn.

    Your turn for proof.

    OOFT!

    angeldust
    Free Member

    Ling is making you all look like a bunch of monkeys. Rather showing the forum up for what it really is.

    Jamie
    Free Member

    Yes. HERE

    Now your turn…

    As mentioned, I am neutral in all this, but nicely played, Ling. Nicely played.

    Drac
    Full Member

    Has CM provided proof yet?

    geordiemick00
    Free Member

    hMMM, I haven’t had many legal disputes, so you are probably much more familiar with these legal disputes on STW than I am. I do understand some people here work as paralegals in their spare time.

    The last dispute I had was ages ago… with Kempt Games Ltd. Chris Kempt tried to charge me for a game. Damn him.

    Business Weekly interviewed me:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7EUNwkBPFE

    Just goes to show, you can’t trust anyone, eh?

    – Ling

    This really speaks volumes…

    You place an order upon a games company to make you a game, you then conveniently slip into the contract an very underhanded condition that the contract is agreed under Chinese law and *presumably* after they’ve spent quite a lot of time developing the game you calmly claim it’s yours and it cost you nothing…

    Your legal defence is “well, he didn’t notice”…

    It is very honourable of you to know actually acknowledge the fact the I (the OP) is not your customer, finally, despite accusing your customer of lying and fraud all over social media. There’s been ONE lie on every single word typed and that’s my OP, for the simple fact that I didn’t want MY personal business to be the epicentre of the post, but as the STW judgemental types have, they’ve milked it. When I typed it I was in hurry on the way out the door and my god I wish I’d now taken the time to write out the true story, because it would have not given you the leeway to accuse us of breaking the law, especially given your communications in relation to us both being included in the communication.

    It’s alarming that you’re now quoting accommodation rules on finance paperwork that was sent to us a week after placing the order on your form that has no cooling off period. How on earth could we see the T’s & C’s on finance agreement that we’d never seen?

    I’m a shady prick according to some, but tell you what, I can honestly say that in business I’ve never stitched anyone up, mis-sold anything and been very transparent about my dealings. If I hadn’t I wouldn’t have kept myself in continuous employment for 27 years.

    You claim you work on trust, you’re actually working on hope. Hope that customers aren’t as savvy or as devious as you to notice MASSIVE failings in your processes and approach to consumer law. The hope that when someone does *order* that they won’t cancel but if they do you know your aggressive shitty attitude will mean that you’ll suck the life out of them until they pay.

    Just like you had the life sucked out of you in that interview in the youtube video above and you spat your dummy and ran away.

    I’m not one to shy away from a debate, i’ve spent a lot of time looking into the legalities of this so here’s a challenge…. Let’s have a debate, you get your fancy marketing people equipped with their finest DSLR and lights, dig your best life jacket/yellow body warmer out and come equipped with your paperwork… Let’s make another youtube video for you to plaster all over social media and let the public decide who’s the villain in all this.

    Agreed, i’ve been a good earner in the past and also had times in my life where my purchasing habits have been affected by depression. I’m sorting that out and doing so has taken nearly a year out of my life, but i’m nearly through that process now and light is at the end of the tunnel.

    You, on the other hand, you’re a narcissistic mouthpiece who thinks financial turnover gives you power. It doesn’t. The fact you’ve leased £80m of cars is irrelevant. You keep quoting this car is £30K, SC wasn’t buying a £30k car, he was committing to £10k of finance. You’re brilliant at twisting stuff to make yourself look better. As it’s been shown in the last 5 pages, there are better deals available, with far more transparent companies.

    FWIW, because i’ve been looking at deals on FB, every single advert is a bloody lease company. I’ve asked every one of them this single question:

    “are your leases covered by a 14 day cooling off period?”

    Not surprisingly they all answer “yes” and most mention the FCA rules HERE

    Do please tell us why they do exactly the same as you but you refuse to use these?? I can only presume your comment about checking your paperwork now is in response to this fiasco. I’m sure you’ll be suing Gateshead Trading Standards for mis-advising you… Let’s hope they didn’t drop into their terms about their contracts only being admissible in China, eh??

    I see you Ling, I F****** see you.

    EDIT: congratulation for donating £100 to the GNAA, it won’t however, stop a lot of us on here seeing proof of your claim of Gateshead TS approving your paperwork.

    I’m on the dole at the moment and if you do then I’ll happily give them next weeks £72.10

    jimw
    Free Member

    🙂

    boblo
    Free Member

    Righty ho Junky and Aracer (as the two most argumentative, pedantic typical STW whotsits on this thread), cough up your £100 each or you’ve just been shown up as exactly what Ling the merciless has claimed of you…

    As for Geordiemick and Ploppooper, I know you didn’t enter into the banter about the donation but as the other two that have had the most to say (and in Mick’s case make good), get yer wallet(s) out and show a bit of goodwill.

    Let’s see the true mettle of that four shall we?

    Awaits-with-baited-breath

    [edit] @geordiemick yeah, yeah, right. Whatever. More belligerent ‘oh poor me’ etc. I won’t be buying any plasters or Paracetamol from you, no way son 🙂 How long before your alter ego turns up? 5-4-3-2 etc

    outofbreath
    Free Member

    CharlieMungus – Ok Ling, I’ve just donated £100 to the Air Ambulance, now it’s your turn.

    Has CM provided proof yet?

    Don’t be shy, CM.

    Drac
    Full Member

    Oooh it’s kicking off again. It’ll be steak at the Xmas party at this rate, sorry Gobuchul

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