Joy Division….why such acclaim?

Pfft! Madness. Where will that get us. Before you know it I’ll no longer be allowed to judge people on their musical tastes, which clearly aren’t in my league, then treat them with utter sneering contempt as a direct result?

My particular favourite of theirs, along with “Love Will Tear Us Apart” of course. The latter is full of raw emotion and, based on his own situation, makes it all the more poignant.

Iz it coz they iz Norvern?

😉

I personally think Love Will Tear Us Apart is one of their worst. I’m bonkers, me!

As an album opener, I think Disorder takes some beating.

I was very disappointed/horrified/**** off to discover, the other week, that this exists…

I love Therapy?’s cover of Isolation, NIN covered Dead Souls too, anyone know of any other quality covers?

Love Joy Division. Was into New Order first and liked their darker stuff and worked back from that.

I wonder whether the OP is basing his opinion on live recordings which were extraordinary in their own right, but I can fully appreciate that they are firmly in the “you had to be there” category for some folk.

I don’t think they sound dated at all – there are several bands I can think of at the moment who owe a massive debt to JD.

These Days is one of my favourites…that sparse drum sound and production was well ahead of it’s time.

Am I allowed to like both JD and The Chams ?

Delighted to find a Chams concert I was at in the 80s is on youtube ! Never saw JD, though saw NO about 20 times.

I used to know the drummer from the chameleons, John, in the mid 90’s. He was a taxi driver then though. But I prefer JD musically.

If I have to explain it to you, you’ll never understand.

anyone know of any other quality covers?

Low’s cover of Transmission and Galaxie 500’s of Ceremony are both great.

Pfft! Madness

Now you’re talking – much more jolly ! 😀

CBA

anyone know of any other quality covers?

Heresy, burn all the nay sayers.

JD were a game changer, like a number of other bands they expanded the musical landscape.

(jeezus that sounds like pretentious shite but hey, it’s true) 😀

I loved them at the time and love them now I even have the oven gloves.

😆 😆 I see what you did there! I’ve been after some for ages, where can I get some?

I got a pair of JDOGs at all night garage.

Along with 10 KitKats, a jar of Marmite, a blues CD on the Hallmark label and a motoring atlas.

Absolutely with edlong on this. I’m continually astounded by people who say The Beatles/Pink Floyd/Joy Division, et al, are rubbish, when it’s perfectly clear to anyone who can actually understand what music is, that the opposite it true. Bands/musicians do not sell tens of millions of records all over the world, in all sorts of different cultures, if they’re rubbish. Fair enough, not actually liking something, there are loads of bands around I just don’t ‘get’, mainly because of some quality in the vocals, like the singer with Everything Everything. That sort of falsetto yodel thing he does makes me grind my teeth flat, but they are very popular, so I’m not going to get all h8ter on their ass!
It was years before I really ‘got’ The Smiths; shame, really, I missed seeing them when they played Golddiggers in Chippenham. 😐
I really like Love Will Tear Us Apart, not because I’ve been told I ought to, but because I heard it on the radio and liked it.
There’s plenty of stuff I love that I’m sure leave others cold, like Kate Bush, or Tori Amos. Or Pink Floyd, come to that.
I like them because I heard them and immediately got a connection with what I heard, not because some opinionated plonker in a music rag told me I needed to; I stopped reading NME around 1975/6, when the likes of Julie Burchill and Tony Parsons wrote reviews that said everything about their political leanings, and why you should/shouldn’t like a band because they did/didn’t fit their politics. Screw them, I can make my own mind up, thank you!
And continue to do so, thanks to 6Music, and Uncut Magazine, which gives brilliant reviews, and a great free sampler CD on the cover.

Rusty Spanner – Member
I got a pair of JDOGs at all night garage.

Along with 10 KitKats, a jar of Marmite, a blues CD on the Hallmark label and a motoring atlas.
Of course, should have thought of that! Sadly we don’t have all-night garages around here. 🙁
Got one of these on order, though;

[edit] available here:
http://www.stolliclothing.co.uk/productinfo.php?pid=1619 😀

Nice shirt!

Are you anywhere near Bunners Chandlers in Montgomery, Count Zero?
Excellent shop.
I picked up some crucifixion nails, a Ben Sayers four iron and a painting by Mercy Rimmell.
I think it was called ‘The Raging Ostler’.

I’d only popped in for a jar of Swarfega.

Or if you’re anywhere near Chatteris………

Aweshomze…

No, I’m in North Wilts, but funnily enough a very good friend of mine lives not far from Chatteris. 🙂
Still, she might as well be in Ely or St Ives… 😉

What’s with the oven gloves? That’s a new one on me!
I did have the original t-shirt in about 1980 (as you’d expect).

You’ve not got any JDOGs?
Big music fan like you n’all.

I keep wicket for the Quakers in mine.

No. They’re from a song by that novelty indie band you like so much eh…

Radiohead-ceremony

The Chameleons and Joy Division – both awesome. Seriously good. I’m no cooler for getting it than people are who don’t. That’s differing tastes isn’t it..?

Just watched Stephen Morris play live 10 minutes ago in the flesh and Love Will Tear Us Apart is still raising goosebumps.

I wasn’t into Joy Division at the time – totally passed me by… Well they were not on Sesame St, The Million Dollar Man or The Muppets. Hence they escaped the four-year old me.

Dez, here’s a song by them, one that suits you down to the ground:

Ah, now I remember why HMHB never interested me!

I only started listening to Joy Division a couple of years ago. Heard their name mentioned over and over for years, heard a couple of their songs (never knew who it was). Then I watched the film, Control. It took me years to get round to that movie, it was the last one in the pile, the one I really wasn’t sure I’d want to watch, about a band I’d probably not like.

First thing I did after watching was got the album!

In theory they’re awful. If you did some scientific analysis of their ill played music and bad singing I’m sure they’d come well below Rolf Harris and Chas and Dave. But you can’t help but enjoy it. And I think it’s just that under the somewhat rough surface you had a really talented bunch of guys who knew how to make good music collectively as a group. In areas where they lacked they more than made up for elsewhere.

Although, slightly offended by being referred to as a “purist”. (Had to look it up)
someone who believes in and follows very traditional rules or ideas in a subject

COMPLETELY and utterly WRONG!

Could be worse mate 😀

S’not like you’ve been captured by Barbary Corsairs….

[Hipster] I preferred Throbbing Gristle [/hipster]

Novelty, says it all, can’t listen to too much JD, but love NO

The OP is some form of guerilla marketing campaign for some about to be released boxed set or something and I claim my £5.
FFS stop posting covers of JD songs there is no need.
As some journo(Paul Morley?) said when JD were all around.
“This band cry real tears”
Pretentious maybe but tragically portentious too.
+1 The Chameleons.

S’not like you’ve been captured by Barbary Corsairs….

*likes*