- Joy Division….why such acclaim?
Joy division were another one of those bands that were so appalling and dull that only the supercool could tolerate them, as we all know, the supercool will tolerate almost anything in a bid to improve their (justifiably) low self esteem..
very similar to The Smiths and The Cure in that respectPosted 4 years agobinnersSubscriber
I’m not even remotely cool and I ****ing love Joy Division! Its just the kind of angry angt-ridden miserablism you should be listening too as a yoot. Admittidly I should probably have grown out of by now.
Derek…. I saw the Chameleons last December. They still gig occasionally. They were awesome!!!Posted 4 years agoB.A.NanaMember
I recall as a teenage punk/goth of the late 70’s / early 80’s, they were a band very much for the cool Uni student of that period, I don’t recall any kids at school or around town being into them.
I discovered them years later and really like most of it. I assumed their more recent deity status being down to a combo of dark mysterious troubled lead singer meets early death, Factory Records troubled history, Hacienda connections, cool film prompting lots of people to bend the truth about being really into them back in the day, when in fact they weren’t that big a band at the time.Posted 4 years ago
All about originality. Like the Chameleons weren’t.
There are leaders and there are followers – some people prefer the followers.
Most Joy Division stuff does sound really dated now though. To be expected I suppose.
Also, there’s a real emotional undercurrent in JD’s music – from every instrument. I still feel tearful when I her ‘Atmosphere’ as it was the first song I heard when John Peel died. I mean the guitar in Dead Souls and New Dawn Fades. If you don’t get it, you don’t get it!Posted 4 years agoderek_starshipMember
I’m 44 so JD were over when I started secondary school.
I’ve been watching some of their videos on YouTube and I have to say, I am amazed at how much critical acclaim they received for the work they did.
I read that Ian Curtis is perceived as some kind of deity.Is there a reason for this as I didn’t sense it myself.
IMO, the material is lyrically poor, backed by average music and delivered in a faux baritone voice.
Now, The Chameleons….Posted 4 years agoRusty SpannerSubscriber
Tell us a which songs you admire the lyrics to, just so we have a valid point of comparison.
IC came up with some of the most brutally honest lyrics I can think of.
Silly sod was a bit of a genius that way.
I’m 44 as well, they’ve been part of my musical life since I was 11.
The sparse arrangements were unusual at the time, with the bass playing what would normally be the guitar parts.
It all works though.
I don’t believe in good or bad music. But I think JD’s music is so emotionally charged I find it difficult to believe that it could fail to gain a reaction in anyone who has actually bothered to listen.Posted 4 years agoedlongMember
Different people like different music shocker!
Like what you like, enjoy it, don’t worry about what other people like, unless you have to live with them and share a stereo.
What I find a bit odd is that there seems to be a cultural pressure to either like or dislike a band or genre as a whole. I like lots of bands, but I’m struggling to think of any where there aren’t some songs that I don’t like. There’s also plenty of bands that I’m not really a ‘fan’ of, but I like something(s) they’ve done.
Understandable when you’re a teenager maybe, when the music you listen to can be part of how you define yourself as a person, putting the band’s logo on your school bag, wearing the t-shirt and all that, or being part of a “scene” but surely by the time you’ve reached the middle-aged Audi driving phase of life, the pressure’s lifted and you can like whatever sounds good in your ears?Posted 4 years ago
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