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  • shermer75
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    Funny! 😀

    DrJ
    Full Member

    Jezza’s issued a statement condemning the American air strikes on Syria.

    I wonder if he does it consciously, or whether it just happens automatically on a kind of default, auto-pilot setting?

    As opposed to the knee-jerk response of being happy that Somebody Did Something? I don’t see blowing up a couple of sheds in the middle of a desert as being particularly likely to change anything for the better, do you?

    DrJ
    Full Member

    IFS says free school meals help the deprived. It does not provide any evidence to suggest that the same benefit is delivered in a non-means tested approach of free school meals for everyone

    What I thought I heard on the radio was that the IFS said
    a) that the trials had been run in 2 “deprived” areas
    b) they showed benefits even for kids not on free school meals in those areas
    c) they did not know why that might be the case

    ninfan
    Free Member

    As opposed to the knee-jerk response of being happy that Somebody Did Something? I don’t see blowing up a couple of sheds in the middle of a desert as being particularly likely to change anything for the better, do you?

    Well, given the fact that CW were used last week it is clear the alternative course of action didn’t work very well, did it?

    Lifer
    Free Member

    Thank goodness it’s a binary situation and bombing one bad hombre won’t help other bad hombres in the region. But at least there’ll be no more chemical weapon attacks.

    DrJ
    Full Member

    Well, given the fact that CW were used last week it is clear the alternative course of action didn’t work very well, did it?

    I’m sure that you, of all people, don’t need the logical faults in that posting to be pointed out?

    cranberry
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    BBC1 just now…

    Should you start off a Labour party election broadcast by saying that there has been “a Tory jobs bonanza” with more people in work than ever before ?

    oldnpastit
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    Should you start off a Labour party election broadcast by saying that there has been “a Tory jobs bonanza” with more people in work than ever before ?

    Is this a trick question?

    cranberry
    Free Member

    Nope they really did.

    🙂

    But then they got it slightly wrong when they described their plan to borrow £500,000,000,000 as “investment”.

    dazh
    Full Member

    Right now there are a bunch of labour staffers manically running around trying to get Jezza away from his allotment and showered and dressed before any tv cameras find him 🙂

    cranberry
    Free Member

    🙂

    I suspect that they are trying to find him a dry pair of trousers as well.

    prawny
    Full Member

    He’s in brum today apparently. I’ll have a look down by the canals at lunch.

    mikewsmith
    Free Member

    Found

    BREAKINGCorbyn ‘welcomes PM’s decision’

    Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn says: “I welcome the Prime Minister’s decision to give the British people the chance to vote for a government that will put the interests of the majority first.”

    sargey
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    I think I just met jezza, well I gave a tramp a few quid so it might have been him.

    Harry_the_Spider
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    He’s got 8 weeks to come up with his resignation speech.

    mt
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    Do not underestimate Corbyn and friends. As mentioned on another thread. If you take out the noise from Brexit what have the Tories got to shout about? Things are not going so well.

    binners
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    Don’t underestimate him? What planet are you living on?

    The Tory press have pretty much ignored Jez up until this point, working on the principle ‘give him enough rope’. They are now going to set about him in the most vicious manner imaginable.

    Expect to hear a lot of stuff about Hamas, the IRA, communism, refusing to sing the national anthem, and all manner of things. His past, and every statement he’s ever made, is the richest cache of weapons they could ever have dreamt of. In the offices of the Sun, the Mail, the Express, the Times and the Torygraph they are presently pissing their pants with glee at what they’re about to unleash on labour

    Jezza truly is all their birthdays and christmases come at once. Labour are already 21% behind the Tories in 2 separate polls over the last week

    Its going to be a bloodbath!

    martinhutch
    Full Member

    Hey, maybe he’ll stay on after the election. He has the mandate after all!

    It will certainly be an interesting few weeks now the gloves are off.

    dazh
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    As mentioned on another thread. If you take out the noise from Brexit what have the Tories got to shout about?

    It’s irrelevant. This is a single issue election. Jezza’s just been on the telly (only took an hour and 20 mins to get him showered and suited) and he’s already missing the goal, banging on about the NHS, housing, justice etc. It’s admirable and he’s right to raise these issues, but the only thing anyone cares about is brexit. Brexit supporters want to be reassured it’s not going to be watered down, remainers want reassurance that there is a plan and it’s not going to end in disaster, yet Corbyn has nothing to say about it. The tories and libdems will be talking about nothing else.

    mt
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    Nope I recon the NHS is the right message. He should not get onto Brexit.

    BruceWee
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    That’s the problem with being in favour of Brexit but too afraid to actually come out and say it.

    martinhutch
    Full Member

    double bubble

    binners
    Full Member

    Nope I recon the NHS is the right message. He should not get onto Brexit.

    You are Jeremy Corbyn’s campaign manager and I claim my funny little hat 😆

    martinhutch
    Full Member

    Nope I recon the NHS is the right message. He should not get onto Brexit.

    Yeh, but what about the 350 million a week?

    He can’t avoid it on the doorstep or anywhere else. NHS/Jobs/Immigration/Workers Rights/Defence – they are all Brexit issues.

    Even if they weren’t, do you think the electorate would not be interested in how a Labour Government might approach the most important political change for many decades? This is the main job of work for any incoming government.

    dazh
    Full Member

    He should not get onto Brexit.

    So he shouldn’t mention the biggest issue of the day and the main reason the election was called? People already think he’s out of touch, if they don’t have a clear and simple policy on brexit and aren’t ready to aggressively promote/defend it then people will see that as them effectively boycotting the campaign. Their only chance is to decide whether they are for or against brexit, and then campaign aggressively for whatever their position is.

    Stoner
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    Funny tweet from editor of the Economist, on the announcement that Lynton Crosby has been retained to lead the election fight for the tories against Corbyn: “this is the point in the boxing match at which normally the referee steps in to save the loser” 😀

    cranberry
    Free Member

    Do not underestimate Corbyn and friends.

    You do understand that each time Jezza gets up to speak at PMQs it is the conservative MPs that cheer and laugh ?

    There is a rule, so obvious it doesn’t need writing down, that all conservatives keep their hands off Jezza. There hasn’t been a single one that has attacked him, because he is the best recruiting sergeant the conservatives have got.
    Well, they know that he won’t be around for the next election, so their dossiers containing every moronic thing that he has ever said and done, every vicious group he has championed – they are getting dusted off.

    Its going to be a giggle.

    EDIT:

    There will be a fair few labour people quietly happy at the upcoming election, not the MPs that are going to need to find another job perhaps, but many who will see that the annihilation of the hard left in the election is a chance to start afresh.

    Ultimately, that rebuilding of the labour party will be good for the conservative party and the country – a government needs a semi-competent opposition to bring out its best and make it stop and think about what it is doing from time to time.

    grum
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    Funny tweet from editor of the Economist, on the announcement that Lynton Crosby has been retained to lead the election fight for the tories against Corbyn: “this is the point in the boxing match at which normally the referee steps in to save the loser”

    Lovely to see they glee with which you announce that one of the most cynical arseholes in politics will be employed to use underhand tactics to harass and bully a fundamentally decent man. Just goes to show the Tory mindset really.

    mt
    Free Member

    @binners

    Nope I recon the NHS is the right message. He should not get onto Brexit.
    You are Jeremy Corbyn’s campaign manager and I claim my funny little hat

    And you sir are Neil Coyle MP, this will be another official complaint against you.

    ninfan
    Free Member

    Nope I recon the NHS is the right message.

    Because it worked so well at the last two elections?

    big_n_daft
    Free Member

    Lovely to see they glee with which you announce that one of the most cynical arseholes in politics will be employed to use underhand tactics to harass and bully a fundamentally decent man.

    They don’t need to do that, they just need to publish Corbyn’s and McDonnell’s public statements from the last 30 years

    youtube is going to be hammered with the research they have been doing

    Just goes to show the Tory mindset really

    you have never experienced a Lib Dem byelection campaign have you, they make everyone else look like Mother Theresa

    outofbreath
    Free Member

    “They don’t need to do that, they just need to publish Corbyn’s and McDonnell’s public statements from the last 30 years”

    This.

    kimbers
    Full Member

    ninfan – Member
    Nope I recon the NHS is the right message.
    Because it worked so well at the last two elections?

    tbf the tories have done a brilliant job bringing it to its knees now

    RustySpanner
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    grum – Member

    Lovely to see they glee with which you announce that one of the most cynical arseholes in politics will be employed to use underhand tactics to harass and bully a fundamentally decent man. Just goes to show the Tory mindset really.

    Has anyone popped in today to remind us how ugly Diane Abbott is?
    Not had that for a few days….

    outofbreath
    Free Member

    So if Labour lose, will Corbyn’s mandate mean he is morally obliged to remain as leader for the 2022 general election? If so he’s committed to be in parliament ’till 2027 which, given his age, can’t be a very pleasant prospect.

    If he can lose and stand down in June then that at least gets him out of being in parliament ’till 2025 as he would have been with a 2020 election.

    So this Election could be really good news for Corbyn – his way out.

    chestercopperpot
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    Makes me laugh this idea that most people vote with high minded ideals and it will win through, not IME.

    It’s usually a combination of self interest and someone else getting a kick up the arse.

    Labour better decide which self interests they are going to champion and who’s getting the kick up the arse.

    jambalaya
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    @kimbers, damn that increased spending on the NHS

    Newsnight tonight wouldn’t have made good watching for Labour supporters. Abbott and Thornbury on the BBC today talking up the campaign shows the real problem Labour face.

    oldnpastit
    Full Member

    C’mon Jamby, dusting off that old nominal-value spending graph? There’s been quite a bit of inflation in the UK over the years, did you forget?

    You’re better than that.

    mrmo
    Free Member

    My guess, and it is a guess, maybe 20% are very pro Brexit similar anti. There is a big group who really don’t care much either way. That is the group who matter, they are the ones who will look at their wallets and will kick off if they get poorer. For labour they are the ones where they have a chance to take a non Brexit message.

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