Jeremy Corbyn

I just saw Len mcklusky at Euston station.

Fair play to him a blind guy, cane and everything was getting buffeted about in the concourse by 1000 important commuters and he came up and offered to help the guy find his train.

Really wish I’d asked him what he was going to do about corbyn tho

Fair play to him a blind guy, cane and everything was getting buffeted about in the concourse by 1000 important commuters and he came up and offered to help the guy find his train.

Is this a metaphor?

Is this a metaphor?

for helping corbyn find his way/the exit 😀
wasnt intended as such, Im brutally hungover today and incapable of going that deep

its just what happened, to my shame Id seen the guy and decided I didnt have time to help as Id miss my train 😳

Len probably did not need your help anyway 😉

Is this a metaphor?

Allegory?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39498275

The rule they used seems to be a complete catch all: “no member of the party shall engage in conduct which in the opinion of the NEC is prejudicial, or in any act which in the opinion of the NEC is grossly detrimental to the party”

Allows the NEC to make any arbitrary decision.

Mental, IMHO.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/05/jess-philips-mp-compares-jeremy-corbyn-black-knight-monty-pythons/

“It’s only a flesh wound”

“At the moment Len (McCluskey’s) said 15 months, so I mean he’s our boss apparently”

Funny because it’s true.

Jezz blaming the messenger. He is a little tetchy, did he burn his fingers making jam ?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/04/jeremy-corbyn-loses-temper-blames-media-dire-poll-ratings/%5B/url%5D

He’s had his mate Kens little ‘Hitler was a Zionist’ thing to sort out. Given his previous form he probably just wondered what all the fuss was about.

And he’s got the biggest issue presently facing the country to attend too….

The Unite leadership election.

It’s no wonder he’s being a bit short with people

Never mind that what both he and Ken Livingstone said is true – the truth doesn’t matter any more.

When the story is you (and your disastrous poll ratings), and not what you’re saying (or trying and failing to say) its time to go.

Unfortunately, given his pig-headed, denial-of-reality mindset, when Labour is absolutely decimated at the local elections next month, I’m sure he’ll just blame the press/weather/lack of car ownership again and carry on regardless. Marching on to the socialist uplands/electoral oblivion.

I’ll also have a side bet on him claiming ownership of Andy Burnhams dead cert Manchester Mayoral election victory, at which point my irony meter will explode 😆

It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy. I’ve come round to thinking he should go too, but only because of the dire state of out national media making it impossible for him to do his job. I look forward to seeing who Labour try to blame when they install some vapid Blairite and discover it isn’t a magic route to electoral success.

Don’t know what I’m doing here
I’ll carry on regardless
Got enough money for one more beer
I’ll carry on regardless

Good as gold, but stupid as mud
He’ll carry on regardless
They’ll bleed his heart ’til there’s no more blood
But carry on regardless

I look forward to seeing who Labour try to blame when they install some vapid Blairite and discover it isn’t a magic route to electoral success.

Tenner says they do exactly what you’ve just done and blame the media for everything.

I don’t blame the media for everything. Corbyn isn’t perfect by any means. But for a functioning democracy we need to have a fair, balanced and responsible national media. If you think that’s what we’ve got then you’re an idiot, frankly.

There is academic research backing up the ludicrously one-sided treatment he receives in the press, it’s not just a lefty conspiracy theory.

I’ve come round to thinking he should go too, but only because of the dire state of out national media making it impossible for him to do his job.

So just given more favourable media coverage of his supreme political prowess, towering leadership qualities, and clear and concise vision, and fully costed policies for the future of the country, Labour would be sailing ahead in the polls? Instead of a full 19 points behind the Tory’s, and at their lowest ratings since 1983?

Lets see how well they do when he quits/is ousted eh binners? That will be the Labour glory you’re describing presumably.

Yep, that’s it. It’s those nasty media types

making it impossible for him to do his job

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It certainly isn’t that he’s not up to doing the job, not at all. It’s all the media’s fault that he can’t do it.

grum – even if Corbyn falls on his sickle, the momentum/entrists inside the labour camp now will only replace him with another nut job, not a vapid blairite (who may well be more electable).

“There is academic research backing up the ludicrously one-sided treatment he receives in the press”

It’s one sided because he genuinely is terrible at his job. Trump gets the same. Unbiased doesn’t mean 50/50 positive and negative.

The aids virus doesn’t get much positive press – is that a stitch-up too?

He might get better media coverage if his press office actually got out their reaction releases before the media’s deadlines – often takes them a day when LibDems manage to produce something within a couple of hours.

What Stoner said. The Momentum half-wits are busy trying to change the rules further in their favour so that any potential leadership candidate only needs the support of 5% of the parliamentary party.

Thats ambition for you eh?

They’re doing this as they know that none of their favoured muppets has a hope of getting the present 15% support from within their own party. Never mind win a general election!

So what will we have to look forward to next, I wonder, from our 6th form socialist revolutionaries? Our next female PM….. Dianne Abbott? 😆

mefty – Member

He might get better media coverage if his press office actually got out their reaction releases before the media’s deadlines – often takes them a day when LibDems manage to produce something within a couple of hours. Actually the person who said that clarified that the leader’s office were very quick.

Ill do VAT another time!!

Bit late with this one, sorry. But you can’t just exclude VAT from a tax system to make the overall point about a tax system.

Actually the person who said that clarified that the leader’s office were very quick.

It wasn’t based on a quote it was based on a litany of tweets by political journalists trying to get reaction before they filed their pieces. Here is a recent example

And another

Its a bizarre contradiction, isn’t it? Day to day incompetence, endless procrastination, and a failure to understand how things actually function in the real world? It’s not something you generally associate with lefties like Jezza

The media clearly has a large bearing on success of a party. As the majority of media is Tory then whoever is Labour leader will get represented only negatively.

Those who don’t think the media are anti labour, do you honestly think the media would back a labour leader even if they were the best leader the world has ever seen?

The only time Labour tend to get in is when the Tories have managed to really piss everyone off or when people realise what they are up to and the negative impact it is having on them.
I am guessing that will be around 2025/2030

Those who don’t think the media are anti labour, do you honestly think the media would back a labour leader even if they were the best leader the world has ever seen?

This is the thing – if Labour had a leader who had the exact same principles/policies as JC but was more efficient, media-friendly or whatever, does anyone honestly believe the press would give them fair coverage? It’s conform to our nasty bigoted heartless capitalist worldview or **** off, basically.

It’s all the media’s fault that he can’t do it.

Or possibly its a mix of the two.
When you look at what the likes of Major have said about the press it is rather daft to pretend that they cant have an impact.
Or you could look at the referendum mess.

Careful dissonance, people on the internet and STW in particular can only cope with a black and white worldview.

It’s Marie Le Conte, that later stated that the Leader’s Office were very quick.

But it seems that there is some kind of wall between the Leader’s office and the rest of Labour.
That needs to be broken down very quickly, or Labour are screwed.

Would it not be an idea that all the anti corbyns defected to the Lib dems?
When I’ve finished dancing on May’s grave I’ll go and have a jig on corbyn’s for letting this country down when we needed an effective opposition. He seems to think he is the deputy pm.

Its worse than that. He still seems to think he’s a backbencher. In a constituency where you could stick a labour rosette on a pot noodle and it’d get elected.

Just sort of muddling along, not doing anything of any great importance….

I think I might go and spend the day on the allotment, as there’s not much going on…..

It’s Marie Le Conte

What about the other journalist I illustrated, what about the fact that Labour don’t put a phone number on Press Releases so no one to call get to further information etc etc.

Even in his rant he misses an opportunity, rather than talk about his colleagues whose work that isn’t mentioned, he could mention the policy.

Do you miss him Binners?
It’s precisely because nobody thought they could trust the spin, that Labour lost the 2010 GE

Do you miss him Binners?

Not him specifically, as such. Just someone within the vicinity of the Labour front bench who looked like they knew their arse from their elbow, and who’s politics had advanced beyond 6th form common room level.

It’s precisely because nobody thought they could trust the spin, that Labour lost the 2010 GE

Cobblers, quite frankly. And the Tory’s, who are as spin-heavy as Nu Labour ever were – in fact more so, as they had the press onside – still couldn’t get a majority against a tired, discredited GB.

Spin hasn’t changed. In fact, its far worse, and more pervasive now than it was when Malcolm was in his prime. Its just that in Jeremy-land they’ve decided they’re not going to bother with that. All part of the kinder, gentler politics, I presume. Great idea!

The only trouble is that when your opposition are very much doing it, are pretty bloody good at it, and have an inbuilt advantage of a friendly press, its like sending your team out minus a goalkeeper, a striker, and most of your defence.

And thinking that having some left-wing, 6th form numpties ranting into their echo chamber on social media is a replacement for an actual media strategy is (one of many, many reasons) why they’re 19 points behind in the polls. You can’t win people over if your communication ‘strategy’ is to put posts about why everything is, just, like, SOOOOOOO unfair on Facebook

As with so many things Jeremy does when do ‘principles’ just become plain old self-defaeting stupidity? Maybe thats a question he could have someone like Malcolm Tucker ask him before he actually went and did it?