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  • Lifer
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    Zionist organisation in conflating anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism shocker.

    DrJ
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    Community Security Trust – not even the Jewish Chronicle trusts (see what I did there?) them:

    https://www.thejc.com/comment/columnists/our-unrepresentative-security-1.68486

    CaptainFlashheart
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    When I did my tax return, it wasn’t out by £40k.

    I’d remember if I had another income that paid me £40k. I think any right minded person would. Even more so if they had an office of support staff and were very much in the public eye.

    Imagine if they’d got last year’s wrong as well! That wouldn’t be possible, shirley!

    dazh
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    My thoughts entirely.

    Jesus. So now Jeremy Corbyn and his fellow socialists are worse than Hitler. 367 pages and nearly 13000 posts before the invoking of Godwin’s law. Must be a record surely?

    teamhurtmore
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    So CFH, I assume you enjoyed the

    Soft Coup – JMcD…
    Publish tax returns – JMcD on Marr (along with happy to take advice from Mandy and BLiar)…
    Poor old Jezza’s return back under scrutiny…

    ,,, Pattern!!!

    With friends like John and Di, who needs enemies……

    CaptainFlashheart
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    Meanwhile, Rebecca Long-Bailey is doing an AWFUL lot of public appearances, and lots of press releases. Especially for someone who’s a bit of a nobody, really.

    Almost as if she’s lining up for something……

    Every time I’ve heard her speak, however, she’s been monumentally awful.

    cranberry
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    BBC reporting the tax return as “cock-up rather than conspiracy”

    🙂

    I guess conspiracy would require a bit more talent and attention to detail.

    EDIT:

    I can live with Rebecca being the great hope for the future of the labour party.

    teamhurtmore
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    She was terrible again on Peston earlier – have man flu so watched a lot of TV and slept today – if it’s between “Becky” and Angela Rayner then Labour are in depp, deep trouble.

    Jess Phillips could be a giggle though – and Brummies are the salt of the earth 😉

    teamhurtmore
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    What would Lady Bracknell say?

    CaptainFlashheart
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    BBC reporting the tax return as “cock-up rather than conspiracy”

    1 – Make silly gesture politics statement about publishing tax returns
    2 – Await some serious scrutiny of the above
    3 – Forget that you cocked up last time you tried this
    4 – Try again anyway
    5 – Cock up. AGAIN

    Yeah, just a cock up. Surely there’s someone in his cabal of overpaid bag carriers who could have said, “Er, Supreme Leader*, can I just…..”

    *Source[/url]

    jambalaya
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    BBC reporting the tax return as “cock-up rather than conspiracy”

    🙂 The gift that just keeps on giving

    Same as last year then when he forgot his pensions, now this year he forgets £40k of income.

    It will be ok as John McD will be along shortly to tell us about the media conspiracy and a soft (aka flaccid ?) coup. Oh and Shami says he’s a nice man.

    jambalaya
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    Zionist organisation

    Lifer Zionism means a belief that the Jewish people have the right to self-determination, ie a state. This list of organisations that are Zionist thus starts with the United Nations and it’s forerunner the League of Nations who created the first and only Jewish State.

    mefty
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    To be fair, Boris thought £250K was chicken feed so this doesn’t really matter.

    jambalaya
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    CFH Rebecca has improve massively from when she was first appointed. I appreciate that may be hard to believe. Labour have no choice but to rotate the same faces as there are so few willing to serve in a front line role

    teamhurtmore
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    But they are as lightweight as rice paper. And it’s obvious.

    aracer
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    Remind me when you first predicted the demise of the EU within 3 years?

    mikewsmith
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    The gift that just keeps on giving

    Same as last year then when he forgot his pensions, now this year he forgets £40k of income.

    It will be ok as John McD will be along shortly to tell us about the media conspiracy and a soft (aka flaccid ?) coup. Oh and Shami says he’s a nice man.
    Great that politicians release their tax returns isn’t it, helps to keep them honest. Though I can see why he didn’t put it there, it’s still a possibility that he hasn’t worked out he is leader of the opposition.

    allthepies
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    What’s 40k between friends comrades though. Who hasn’t forgotten about such a sum when filing one’s tax return.

    cranberry
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    outofbreath
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    Funny innit. We all complain about career politicians, but then we get Trump and Corbyn to show us amateurs are, if anything, worse.

    teamhurtmore
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    Slightly odd compariosn. Apart from being a TU rep, Jezza has essentlaiiy been a career politician all his working life.

    outofbreath
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    “Apart from being a TU rep, Jezza has essentlaiiy been a career politician all his working life.”

    I take your point, but Corbyn’s never been trusted with a ministerial job. I think that makes him an amateur feeling his way. But yeah, he’s been a paid MP forever.

    binners
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    Meanwhile, Rebecca Long-Bailey is doing an AWFUL lot of public appearances, and lots of press releases. Especially for someone who’s a bit of a nobody, really.

    The definitive comment on her ‘abilities’ was voiced by Mrs Binners while watching her ‘performance’ on Question Time the other week…

    “Who the **** is this muppet?!”

    indeed. I suspect that they’re the only two who are naive/stupid enough not to realise that being seen as a loyal Corbynite, with the electoral day of reckoning on the horizon, probably isn’t the smartest move. The less clueless people are keeping silent and not touching the front bench with the proverbial barge pole

    Slightly odd compariosn. Apart from being a TU rep, Jezza has essentlaiiy been a career politician all his working life.

    Quite an achievement to spend 30 odd years doing one job, while watching people who were masters of the art, on both sides of the house, and yet still managing to be this totally inept and clueless at it.

    cranberry
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    indeed. I suspect that they’re the only two who are naive/stupid enough not to realise that being seen as a loyal Corbynite, with the electoral day of reckoning on the horizon, probably isn’t the smartest move.

    Think of it as an IQ test:

    Do you want to be, very publicly, a member of this confederacy of dunces ?

    Yes/no ( please mark in black pen for no, green crayon for yes )

    br
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    What’s 40k between friends comrades though. Who hasn’t forgotten about such a sum when filing one’s tax return. [/I]

    Pretty much all PAYE, so it was on there – just not where we expected it.

    But something did occur to me, because he’s past retirement age he doesn’t pay NI, so his net pay is higher then someone of working age.

    outofbreath
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    LOL. So he earns 100k+, claims state pension and makes no NI contributions. At the same time he wants the rest of us to pay more into the system.

    cranberry
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    When the left wants “everyone to pay more tax”:

    It means everyone but them.

    jambalaya
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    “Who the **** is this muppet?!”

    It means everyone but them

    Worth opening the thread for these two gems 🙂

    @aracer there is only so long the eurozone / EU can keep kicking the can down the road / into the long grass. At least moremof the press (Guardain included) has started to discuss the issue. Its a real one for all of us, we need to make sure as individuals we have rainy day money was we are going to need it.

    AlexSimon
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    Hang on – reading this, it sounds like you actually believe he forgot 40k of income?
    You do realise it’s nonsense don’t you?

    outofbreath
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    “Hang on – reading this, it sounds like you actually believe he forgot 40k of income?
    You do realise it’s nonsense don’t you?”

    Given he’s in a 24/7 job, and given the importance of getting his tax return exactly right yeah, forgot seems the only plausible explanation. Or at least forgot to pass the right paperwork to the company doing it.

    dazh
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    You do realise it’s nonsense don’t you?

    I doubt they’re interested in that they’re back in Jeremy Corbyn soggy biscuit mode 🙂

    AlexSimon
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    ffs outofbreath.
    At least do a basic fact check before spouting.
    It’s all on his tax return, just not in the place where the media decided it should be.
    And it was very very stupid for them to think it should be 40k given that the tax year and the leadership election don’t match.

    It was 27k and it’s all on his tax return in black and white. Just completely made up bollocks as usual.

    outofbreath
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    “ffs outofbreath.
    At least do a basic fact check before spouting.
    It’s all on his tax return, just not in the place where the media decided it should be.
    And it was very very stupid for them to think it should be 40k given that the tax year and the leadership election don’t match.
    It was 27k and it’s all on his tax return in black and white. Just completely made up bollocks as usual.”

    Looked to me like you were accusing him of deliberately leaving 40k off his return.

    That seemed implausible.

    If you’re saying all his income was there, then yeah, that seems more likely. A lot of effort will have gone onto getting this right, there’s no way anything would get deliberately left off.

    jambalaya
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    Alex it wasn’t in the place where your work income is supposed to be. When the story first broke and we commented no one in the Labour office could answer the question “where is his leader’s pay / has he forgotten it” – it seems perfectly legit to assume a screw up given last year’s pension debacle.

    Amateur Hour.

    As for everyone earling over a £1m a year publishing their return its like a Robbers Charter – let’s flag up who has the loot and is worth a break-in

    kimbers
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    As for everyone earling over a £1m a year publishing their return its like a Robbers Charter – let’s flag up who has the loot and is worth a break-in

    😯

    yeah itd never work….

    https://www.theguardian.com/money/blog/2016/apr/11/when-it-comes-to-tax-transparency-norway-leads-the-field

    AlexSimon
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    When the story first broke

    This is just the biggest crock of bollocks ever – just maddening. We should be talking about policies, what damage the Tory money siphoning is doing, why we can’t see tax returns of other politicians, etc. But instead, you’ve fallen completely for a trumped-up piece of nonsense that someone leapt on without actually looking a tiny tiny bit deeper (or maybe they did but thought there was a story in it anyway by playing dumb).

    And then you try and justify it by saying “when the story first broke”, or “no one in the Labour office”, etc. It’s a non-story spun to show incompetence when in fact there was none.

    Focus on why the media have leapt on this instead of the incredible lack of transparency elsewhere.

    outofbreath
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    This is just the biggest crock of bollocks ever – just maddening. We should be talking about policies … But instead, you’ve fallen completely for a trumped-up piece of nonsense that someone leapt on without actually looking a tiny tiny bit deeper (or maybe they did but thought there was a story in it anyway by playing dumb). And then you try and justify it by saying “when the story first broke”, or “no one in the Labour office”, etc. It’s a non-story spun to show incompetence when in fact there was none. Focus on why the media have leapt on this instead of the incredible lack of transparency elsewhere.

    Indeed. Corbyn’s will be one of the simpler tax returns. Imagine now much press titillation there will be over some of the others and how much more distracting media attention there will be over them.

    It’s a needless gimmick and distraction. Mind you, you’ve made several posts about it today and zero on Labour Policy, so perhaps you’re less interested in policy than you think.

    jambalaya
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    Alex it wasn’t the Tories who created the distraction was it ? Another own goal from Corbyn’s team whilst attempting to embarrass Phillip Hamond. At the very least they should have briefed the Press Office.

    DrJ
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    So Corbyn promised to publish his tax return, did so, and a load of the usual suspects cry “cock up”. It’s shown that there wasn’t a cock up and the “financial experts” don’t have the decency to admit that they got it wrong. Quelle surprise.

    binners
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    Policy? Can you name me any? Actual costed policies, with any detail at all?

    There aren’t any. That’s the point. It’s a vacuum. Just vague, lefty, 6th form, get-my-guitar, mood music, or maybe forming yet another committee to look into the issue

    Apparently even the most loyal Corbynites (are there any left other than John and Dianne?) are totally exasperated about the endless meetings, to discuss the agenda for further meetings, where they chunter on and on for days on end, without actually reaching any decisions or conclusions about anything. No rush eh Jeremy? Take your time eh mate? Nothing of much significance going on at the moment

    Oh…. there’s the 3 line whip about voting through the Tory’s Brexit bill for them. The only issue he’s ever been decisive on. Cheers for that one Jeremy. Other than that….?

    Anyone? Bueller….? Bueller….? Bueller… ?

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