Is May about to call an election?

nah. rudderless is far too easy a headline.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2012/may/25/michael-gove-bibles-schools-plan
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2012/may/15/michael-gove-king-james-bible

Michael Gove’s King James Bible plan rescued by millionaire Tory donors
Education secretary will send a copy of the Bible to every state school after donors club together to save £370,000 initiative

yay more religion in schools, hope it was made clear it was fiction to be critically studied.

yep Gove originally wanted the taxpayer to pay for his bibilical egowank

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2012/may/25/michael-gove-bibles-schools-plan

Michael Gove’s £370,000 vanity bibles have reference to him on spine

Point of order: None of those links say the tax payer was going to pay.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Everything-I-know-about-teaching/dp/1492912417

Millionaire Conservative party donors have clubbed together to rescue a plan by the education secretary, Michael Gove, to send a copy of the King James Bible to every state school in the country.

Gove hoped to mark the 400th anniversary of the Bible’s completion by donating a leather-bound copy, written in 17th-century English, to all primary and secondary schools by Easter.

However, his plans were said to have run into trouble in January when government sources reported that David Cameron had told Gove to avoid using taxpayers’ money for the £370,000 initiative.

The Department for Education denied aspects of the story, but said they did not know if the copies had yet been printed, or where the copies might currently be stored. They added the Bible was always intended to be distributed to schools at Easter, so there had been no slippage in the timetable due to the lack of a sponsor.

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Education department officials said the prime minister supported the plan and said they did not recognise accounts of a conversation in which Gove was told no taxpayers’ money could be used. But Whitehall sources said Gove was told at the highest levels that it would be wrong to spend nearly £400,000 on the project at a time when the government was in negotiations with teaching unions over cuts to their pension entitlement.

Education department officials insisted the bibles would be distributed before Easter even if no sponsor had been found. A senior education department source said enough public cash was available to press ahead and No 10 had merely indicated that “sponsorship was desirable”. A Department for Education official said in a statement: “The prime minister was clear in his speech in December about the importance of the King James Bible, and marking this important anniversary. The prime minister supports the plan to send a copy to every school. We continue to seek philanthropic sponsorship.”
From the First link in mine and a link inside. Looks like the Ed Dep was picking up the bill if it didn’t find sponsors and he wanted to let them pick up the tab.

didnt he also want the taxpayer to buy the queen a new royal yacht ?

all in the midst of ‘austerity madness’

Looks like the Ed Dep was picking up the bill if it didn’t find sponsors and he wanted to let them pick up the tab.

Nah, it doesn’t.

But it’s academic, I asked for a linky and you did your best.

idnt he also want the taxpayer to buy the queen a new royal yacht ?

He suggested it:

“My suggestion would be a gift from the nation to her majesty; thinking about David Willetts’s excellent suggestion of a royal yacht, and something tangible to commemorate this momentous occasion.”.

The Press Association reported Gove saying: “The taxpayer is there to underwrite the costs but we are in conversation with a number of individuals and organisations that may share some of the burden.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/01/18/michael-goves-king-james-bibles-cost-taxpayers-thousands-_n_1212702.html

is a suggestion different from wanting it? is semantics all youve got

we all know Gove is a clown 😉

But it’s academic, I asked for a linky and you did your best.

Well unless you were in the room it’s a best guess either way but evasive language from the Ed Dep suggests it was all printed and ready to go with nobody to fund it – ie they had paid for it all and were desperately trying to find somebody to pay for it while hammering funding in other areas.
Shows his absolute detachment from the real world and the people who live in it.

Looks like the Ed Dep was picking up the bill if it didn’t find sponsors and he wanted to let them pick up the tab.

Nah, it doesn’t.

Yeah, it does.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2088339/Michael-Goves-377k-plan-send-King-James-Bible-school.html

[sorry…..]

Mr Gove said talks were under way with a number of individuals and organisations that might ‘share some of the burden’ – but the taxpayer would underwrite the cost.
‘The taxpayer is there to underwrite the costs but we are in conversation with a number of individuals and organisations that may share some of the burden,’ he said.

None of it matters, if May gets her 50 seat majority She’ll be safe for now, will there be a reshuffle after- Id have thought so, where might gove pop up?
like a bad turd…..

Only if its less than 50 (which I doubt) will she be under immediate threat, its just that she will have lost some measure of respect from within her party, though have at good 30+ new & loyal MPs

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is a suggestion different from wanting it?

No. Why do you ask?

‘The taxpayer is there to underwrite the costs but we are in conversation with a number of individuals and organisations that may share some of the burden,’ he said.

Thanks, that’s conclusive.

The big point being that the PM then had to remind him that he really should make sure he had funding…
Quacks like a duck? get the oranges.

Not a definitive statement this, more a suggestion, but some people are just knobs, aren’t they?

Opinium has published its final poll of the election campaign. It suggests the Conservatives have a seven-point lead.

Here are their figures.

Conservatives: 43%

Labour: 36%

Lib Dems: 8%

Ukip: 5%

Greens: 2%

Here is an extract from the Opinium news release.

All polls point to a Conservative majority, despite recent gains by the Labour party, and the final poll from Opinium indicates that the Conservatives will capture 43% of the vote on Thursday, compared to 36% for Labour. This is in stark contrast to the 19 point lead held by the Conservatives at the beginning of the party’s campaign. However, the Labour poll ‘surge’ appears to have crested with the party slipping back by a point as the Conservatives remain steady.

The campaign has damaged the reputation of the prime minister, despite a likely Conservative win, with Theresa May’s approval ratings falling from +21% at the start of the campaign to just +5% on average across all voters. While Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has seen his popularity increase to -7%, it doesn’t seem to been enough to challenge the Conservatives.

On the basis of these figures, Electoral Calculus says the Conservatives would get a majority of 48.

still reckon may will get 50+ seats

these guys reckon 100 + seats !

which is faesible, lets hope da yoof turn out, tho bad weather forecast will doesnt bode well for that

http://britainelects.com/nowcast/

Ok now I am either going with Labour win or 150 seat Tory landslide. Something shocking anyway.

This is comedy gold – Strong and stable campaign bus blown over by wind

75-100 remains my prediction. Personally I think the Tory lead has increased over the election campaign, I think the early polls where manipulated up and the latter ones down. All makes for headlines and an ability to “create the news” by the newsmedia.

May went into the election with a 17 seat majority and much talk of disruption to Brexit. IMO on Jue 9th sh will have a much much larger majority and a much stronger hand at home and abroad. Job Done.

I’m offline tomorrow , I’m sure the world will keep on turning 8)

If it’s a landslide Tory victory I don’t think I could face the gloating brexit / Tory kippers on social media telling everyone to get over it all over again.
Please let it be a slim Tory majority or labour landslide…

I think the early polls where manipulated up and the latter ones down.

Aye. Right.

Personally I think the Tory lead has increased over the election campaign, I think the early polls where manipulated up and the latter ones down.

Ooh go on then – why do you think this?

cloudnine – Member
If it’s a landslide Tory victory I don’t think I could face the gloating brexit / Tory kippers on social media telling everyone to get over it all over again.
Please let it be a slim Tory majority or labour landslide…

sadly itll be a gloatfest
enjoy the tories bricking themselves while you can!

jambys tinfoil hattery is quite amusing though

75-100 remains my prediction.

You were predicting 100-150 seats, so why the change of heart?

Personally I think the Tory lead has increased over the election campaign, I think the early polls where manipulated up and the latter ones down

that is quite a lot of independent and unrelated voting companies you have had to have been nobbled for that to be true – I assume you have some evidence to support the claim then?

She will won but not by what she expected to and I very much dount the Tory grandees have any faith left in her

She will be very very lucky to ever face the electorate again as PM and will need to show some skill that has been hitherto lacking in her performances in either the election or her previous department or her premiership- the lady is for turning

I find it hard to believe even the most devout tory is energised by anything she has done so far its been pretty shit granted not diane abbott levels of shit but shit nonetheless

sadly itll be a gloatfest

Not sure what they’ll be gloating over. Presiding over the the most complex and important negotiations in decades after their authority and reputation has been completely destroyed by the complete cluster**** of a campaign and up against a resurgent opposition (assuming the blairites don’t start playing silly beggars, as they surely will). Whatever happens Corbyn and his colleagues can be duly proud that they have shown that an alternative is not only popular, but possible. What happens next is in the hands of the PLP.

Today:

jambalaya – Member

75-100 remains my prediction

2 weeks ago:

jambalaya – Member

100 to 150 seat Tory win

That’s some good remaining.

Its because he thinks the tory lead has increased obviously
DUH he said so

That’s some good remaining.

And nothing to do with the opinion polls he says are fabricated.

Monbiot hits the nail on the head. Whatever the result, things are beginning to change. They can either change fast, on Thursday, or take a few more years. First time I’ve ever really believed it though.

Mays latest u-turn is that contrary to the manifesto she (re)launched last week she wants to remove elements of the Human Rights Act

anything to shift the narrative away from her cuts to police

Mays latest u-turn

I guess the empty rhetoric about not letting terrorists win was all bollox. Hardly a surprise, given her propensity to cave in at the merest hint of trouble, but shocking all the same.

They under fund the police and then blame the internet and the people of their own country for spreading extremism in an effort to remove people’s civil liberties: You really can’t make this stuff up.

FFS I’ve got that Greg Knight jingle stuck in my head now… aaaaaaaargh!

encouraging newsnight vox pops in the west midlands

more squeaky bum time for the tories 🙂 even if they will win tomorrow