Is May about to call an election?

I foresee a massive increase in interest-only mortgages. Why own your house outright? Just be sure to keep your own stake at 100K, and pay the interest…

*unt was appalling on the Today program, he can’t be expecting to cling on after the election, surely.

“…a country where it doesn’t matter where you come from, but where you’re going to…”

😆

Oh my god, this is cringeworthy.

We’ve had the “…many who would will us to fail…” line.

I’ve lost count on “strong/stronger” now.

Not feeling ‘Mainstream’ then?

Strong and stable?

Stable and strong?

MUUUUUUUUUMMMMYYYYYYYYYY!!!!

Not been listening very carefully. Has she actually talked about any policies yet?

Oh, it’s finished. Is that it?

Oh Christ!!! She finished with a Churchill quote!

Did I hear a Spitfire make a flypast?

So she wants to hit people on marriage visas again, by increasing the earnings threshold and increasing NHS charges.

Ive spent 2 years now with a constant feeling of paranoia – despite us earning a decent amount and having private healthcare (which doesnt lower the NHS surcharge) – this shit is going to end up with me on valium.

She punishes the people with the least voice – whilst companies like my old one got away with rampant tier 2 visa abuse.

She’s either trying to lose it or just being as crap as possible for some sort of dare.

Sky news have just been interviewing pensioners in Gloucester. They are seriously not happy! They looked utterly confused as to how the tories could do this to them. This could quite possibly be the biggest policy cock-up by a political party in a general election campaign in a very long time. Talk about suicide notes 🙂

TBH if it wasn’t for the marriage visa rules – I’d be tempted to vote Tory as I’d quite enjoy bathing in the crocodile tears of pensioners.

She’s either trying to lose it or just being as crap as possible for some sort of dare.

only if viewed from a more left wing perspective. How it looks to Tory and possible Tory voters is what matters. We’ll find that out by June 9th.

Crocodile Tears are fake tears shed for someone else’s misfortune. They don’t have the legendary moisturising properties of genuine babyboomer tears. 🙂

They’ve designed that manifesto to piss off as many voters as possible from all sides including their own. Quite remarkable. She really is an incompetent quarter-wit.

They’ve voted once already to **** up the prospects of their children and grandchildren. What makes you think they won’t do it again….

Manifesto here:
https://s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/manifesto2017/Manifesto2017.pdf
BBC summary here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39960311

Seems a lot of spending promises, with unclear methods of paying for them.
Excellent news the tax free allowance will be increased further.
Not so excellent news for rich pensioners.

How it looks to Tory and possible Tory voters

Betrayal? Taking their votes for granted? Punishing the successful and hardworking? To quote one I heard on the radio this morning “I haven’t worked my entire life and paid taxes only for the government to take my kid’s inheritance away from them”.

I still can’t actually believe they’ve proposed this. It’s not surprising given their propensity for coming up with stupid policies that their supporters will hate (eg increasing taxes for the self-employed), but this time they can’t do the traditional u-turn as it’s their flagship policy! Corbyn and co must be laughing their **** off.

Increase the personal allowance to £12,500 and the higher rate to £50,000 by 2020

So how much will that cost?

Probably nothing, as it will never happen, hence the 2020 clause.

Crocodile Tears are fake tears shed for someone else’s misfortune. They don’t have the legendary moisturising properties of genuine babyboomer tears.

I’m almost tempted to make a return trip to my local this evening – which I’ve barred myself from, after a bit of an ‘incident’.

I just want to sit and luxuriate in the howls of outrage from the true blue, Brexit voting boomers that a tory… A TORY leader hasn’t suitably genuflected at their triple-locked, ring-fenced final salary alter 😆

I still can’t actually believe they’ve proposed this.

I can. I remember how incompetent she was as Home Secretary. A godawful crap middle management type who is completely unsuitable for statesmanship.

Corbyn is Mr Clunky but at least when he speaks, turds don’t splatter out of his mouth.

Mr Clunky

thats ok with me 🙂

I just want to sit and luxuriate in the howls of outrage from the true blue, Brexit voting boomers that a tory… A TORY leader hasn’t suitably genuflected at their triple-locked, ring-fenced final salary alter

It really is a shrewd move though. These folks are so far under Dacre’s thumb that there really is no alternative vote for Labour or even Liberal, and they are normally in safe Tory seats.

This election is May being ambitious and trying to pick up middle-aged voters in non-traditional Tory areas. She wants to make Tory marginals into safe seats in future elections.

binners – Member
I just want to sit and luxuriate in the howls of outrage from the true blue, Brexit voting boomers that a tory… A TORY leader hasn’t suitably genuflected at their triple-locked, ring-fenced final salary alter

Didn’t realise you drank in the Brit, my local, are you that beardy 29er riding hipster cracking on about ‘Remaining’ we had to tell to piss off and pointed at our sign?

Do you need reminding what we baby boomers went through for the likes of you? 😉

So how much will that cost?

Probably nothing, as it will never happen, hence the 2020 clause.

Strange conclusion – after all, the personal allowance has risen from £6.5k to £11.5k under the evil Tories

I can. I remember how incompetent she was as Home Secretary. A godawful crap middle management type who is completely unsuitable for statesmanship.

this

shes was impressively incompetent as home sec, who knows what she will manage to balls up the next 5 years of crucial brexit negotiations!

Strange conclusion – after all, the personal allowance has risen from £6.5k to £11.5k under the evil Tories

Wasn’t this a Libdem policy the Tories carried on with?

who knows what might balls up teh next 5 years & brexit negotiations!

Is that still a foregone conclusion? Probably, but for the next 3 weeks she’s going to be defending what labour are calling the ‘dementia tax’ and the removal of the triple lock, instead of talking about brexit. Labour were already on the up and she’s now gone and presented them with the biggest gift they couldn’t ever have imagined.

Do you need reminding what we baby boomers went through for the likes of you?

You mean like a fully funded NHS, free university education, the prospect of actually getting on the property ladder, stable employment…

Life must have been hell.

free university education,

You missed University Grants as well.

You missed University Grants as well.

And better drugs.

It really is a shrewd move though. These folks are so far under Dacre’s thumb that there really is no alternative vote for Labour or even Liberal, and they are normally in safe Tory seats.

It really isn’t, when you take your core support for granted and then abuse them, it never ends well. Just look at Labour in Scotland.

retiring before you are 85 or whatever Ive got to look forward to

Also the selling off of allajor government assets and the share bonus that followed. Heady times, here is the hangover don’t worry every time they wipe your arse it’s 50 quid off your house.

You think you’re going to be retiring at 85? Or ever? I admire your optimism, my friend 😉

Have your read Catch 22? Where, as Yossarian is flying his 25th mission, it gets raised to 30, then as he’s flying his 30th mission, it gets raised to 35……?

It really isn’t, when you take your core support for granted and then abuse them, it never ends well. Just look at Labour in Scotland.

Labour took a deliberate decision to move right in the 1990s and won a lot of national elections on the back of it. Then they had to pick a side in the most contentious and bitterly fought referendum in Scots history, with a sort-of centrist party ready to pull away indy-supporting voters.

The big difference is that if you’re a Tory-voting, Brexit-supporting, Mail-reading old biddy sitting on property in the south of England, there is no alternative party ready to grab your support. There is simply no way you are voting Labour, and equally unlikely you’d move to the LibDems given their stance on Brexit.

“I haven’t worked my entire life and paid taxes only for the government to take my kid’s inheritance away from them”.

someone else who can’t read or understand what they read 🙄
At least his kids will have £100,000. Here in Wales it’s £24,000 and not likely to change. Only real difference in Wales the value of your home isn’t taken into account when calculating home care. Thats capped at a reasonable £60pw even if your a millionaire.

It says a lot about the ingrained sense of entitlement in certain sections of the population, that not only do they think they should be able to receive unlimited expensive care, stretching over decades, but also be able to do so while retaining all their (still rapidly appreciating) assets, which they can then hand over to their children without paying any tax.

When you think about it, this is actually Mays clause 4 moment with her core support.

The big difference is that if you’re a Tory-voting, Brexit-supporting, Mail-reading old biddy sitting on property in the south of England, there is no alternative party ready to grab your support.

They’ll vote with their pockets. I’d agree if we were talking a marginal increase in taxes that will cost a small amount more each year, but as I’m sure many ageing middle class people sitting on >500k properties will realise, this could cost them and their kids hundreds of thousands.

May should go full nasty party now and change the suicide laws – so that if you want to pass on you inheritance you can have the option of walking into a suicide booth.

I’ve had enough of all these scrounging pensioners taking advantage of the gravy train.