iDieting

Thought tomatoes were banned Mols??

TSY, DGoaB.

I am amused by your blind addiction to chronic cardio.

There can be no way for you to tell what exactly the long term effects of what you are doing to yourselves wrt such high quantities of exercise, will be.

I just can’t do this rest lark

You will do eventually, cos your body WILL have the last word on the matter.
This, I guarantee you.

😉

Tomatoes appear to have a low GI so are ok

Thought tomatoes were banned Mols??

😆

I’m figuring that cycling 2,000m in a month….

Kudos for the mileage.

Last night I had mushroom omelette after bouncing around the park doing circuits. The instructor said he thought I was making a valiant effort but won’t let me move up to the harder group.

I’m thinking the sautéed potatoes were a No-No though 😳

Tomatoes are ok… they pass the custard test. Nowadays I just eat the custard.

Solo – I don’t get your point? But then I don’t do a huge amount of cardio…

DirtyG – I thought your previous bike had been measured for you?

iDave is not just low GI, it’s low insulinaemic. Fruit is low GI but generally out because of all the fructose which makes you produce insulin or something else bad.

Tomatoes though are in, maybe because they’re not all that sweet? Or maybe the fructose degrades when cooking? Not sure.

Speaking of in and out, i looked up baked beans on the list published in that research paper i posted on another idave thread – the one which compared foods to white bread. The bread had an insulin index of 100 and baked beans are higher than that, so they should be out.

I think I read that paper, and it was a US one I believe. So god knows how much sugar and crud they put in their beans. They taste disgustingly sweet at any rate.

Most GI websites list them as low with a GI of 40 compared to glucose being 100.

http://www.carbs-information.com/glycemic-index/baked-beans-gi-value.htm

I keep meaning to email Heinz and ask them exactly how much sugar there is.

I’ve got a fridge pack of the reduced salt and sugar ones. They’re grand.

Oh here’s a lead from a body building site:

Baked beans may have a small effect on blood glucose […], but the overcooked proteins have a big effect on blood insulin

From http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/are-baked-beans-low-gi-conflicting-data-m914893.aspx

Interesting.

Also this link http://www.mendosa.com/insulin_index.htm has a table which puts cheese as low insulin, SOME fruit as low and muesli as low, comparable with meats.. and pasta is also low..hmm..

Anyone got an iDave meal suggestion for tonight please?

I’m thinking steak and….

Burnt 1000 calories on the spin bike at lunch and all I can think about is food 🙁

Steak and butter beanz and mushroomz and chickpeaz and gram flour flatbredz.

steak and….STEAK !

@TSY

Fish finger sandwich.

No chips?

I’m also thinking slow rosasted lamb shank. Not that quick to make, but…

I have fish fingers Jamie… I could use steak as bread?

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Steak and asparagus?

or a mixture of borlotti beans, red onions, stock, tinned toms and paprika?

or on a bed of quinoa?

I also have some burgers.

Fish fingers in burgers? It’s like the ultimate surf & turf.

Now I’m worrying about my own bean stew.. they are well cooked beans just like the baked ones. I could be better off with pasta.

Are tinned beans out generally then? As in kidney, borlotti, black eyed, cannellini from tins? Just about to make a chilli 😕

Well I dunno. If they are then I am totally screwed. I think they are a staple according to iDave.. but I wonder if they get bad if you over-cook them.

Steak and roasted vegetables.

Carrots (blanch them first) onion, squash, peppers, courgettes, mushroom, fennel, tomatoes, etc. splosh of oil and balsamic. Yum.

I wouldn’t worry about tinned beans too much (minus baked beans in sweetened sauce) as I get that ‘still hungry but I know it is just cravings’ feeling after a chilli full of beans (aka the iDave pangs).

From what I can tell, tinned beans are ok, but a little worse than dried beans you prepare and cook yourself. However, on all the insulin index pages I can find it lists cheese as really low and also pasta….. This could be an important discovery.

*grates cheese ready for the chilli*

*high fives Mol* 😀

Cheese schmeese, I’m making spag bol! With pasta!

Chilli here with Black Eyed Beans, Chickpeas, Haricot (not baked) Beans, Kidney Beans, and Borlotti Beans.

Died on my arse and am having it with brown rice 🙁

Is Brown Rice out?

It’s out isn’t it!

****!

yep, get some quinoa in your life. It is like rice but on the allowed list. It’s quicker to cook too.

I found some old Fox shorts from a couple of years ago that I’ve never worn.

I can now fit into them after following this type of diet for about a month!
Huzzah! 8)

Nice one on both counts (i’m a big fan of fox shorts)

molgrips – Member
Cheese schmeese, I’m making spag bol! With pasta!

Isn’t that the kind of thing you would eat pre-diet? The kind of stuff which got you to a place where you wanted to lose weight?

Don’t be tempted by muesli either, it might be low on the list but you don’t know what kind of muesli it was, but more important you’ll add milk to it. Back on the path, don’t waiver.

I like the chili without rice. Although rice is nice, I can manage fine without. A little more water and it’s American style chilli soup and doesn’t need rice 🙂

Jon, I ate a very large number of ‘banned’ things pre-diet, so attributing the extra kgs to spag bol is not really scientific. However doing a controlled study and measuring insulin in subjects is quite scientific, so I’d be inclined to pay more attention to those results 🙂

Not sure I’m willing to go for pasta, seems so counter-intuitive. But beans with pasta sauce is pretty rubbish.

Me no like soup in the evening. Anyway, I think brown rice has got to be better than white hasn’t it?

No, it’s the same.

Chilli soup by the way is slightly runny chilli not actual soup.

Good point about the milk on muesli. However when I was at my lowest weight in Germanland I was eating it in the mornings for commuting fuel and eating twixes frequently. So who knows!

I know what chilli soup is Mol!

Mol… The study might have been scientific, but the way we’ve each read it isn’t – we don’t know enough about the study or subject area to make informed analysis of its content. Reading a single article is useless, and more so when you’re not an expert in the area.

The plan is working for you, right? Why change what you know is working? 🙂