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Some of you have been doing really well! I'm impressed. 😀
I posted in another thread about my fruit intake. It has always been quite considerable especially with the British raspberries and strawberries in season. Have now cut out fruit completely (apart from one day) and have not experienced hunger/weakness/lightheadedness.
Haven't managed to give up my few carbs though but am really enjoying loads of fresh vegetables.
Any one got any ideas of what else to do with spinach?
Make salads with it?
Don't forget this is NOT A ZERO CARB DIET.
Any one got any ideas of what else to do with spinach?
Hit up [url= http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/ ]bbcgoodfood.com[/url] and search for spinach. This website has been a godsend for me on this plan, type in lentils and boom! loads of recipes I never knew existed.
Hi Folks!
First post, I have emailed idave direct to get the diet plan direct, was the right thing to do!?
Need something to help me shift the extra timber!
Any one got any ideas of what else to do with spinach?
My missus made a spinach+feta cheese+raisin+filo pastry "bake" of some kind last week. I think it's north African? Recipe could be online - check out BBC food, etc.
Tasted great - very light but also kind of filling (well, after seconds and a bit of thirds it did :-))
Good link there Jamie, thanks. 8)
That pastry bake sounds good too. Is pastry allowed ❓
I quite fancy a pop at this what's the plan stan?
Pastry contains flour, so refined white carbs. So no.
alexxx with lots of x's was 'responsible' for mailing out. Don't pester iDave with it, it's not 'his' plan, and he doesn't really want to get that involved mentoring everyone and asking all our questions but dips in every now and then in a mardy sort of way. 😉
And whatever you do don't respond to any of SFB's posts.
And whatever you do don't respond to any of SFB's posts.
+1.
And whatever you do don't respond to any of SFB's posts.
particularly if your name is [b]molgrips[/b]...
Don't pester iDave with it, it's not 'his' plan, and he doesn't really want to get that involved mentoring everyone and asking all our questions but dips in every now and then in a mardy sort of way.
it's called "plausible deniability"
Lol, touché.
(only on STW would you be forced to remember the code for é to avoid a pedant's flaming)
only on STW would you be forced to remember the code for é
my keyboard has magically flipped to US format so I keep putting @ for " and ALT-GR e isn't a letter 🙁
My missus made a spinach+feta cheese+raisin+filo pastry "bake"
Is pastry allowed
LOL I think the only thing 'allowed' in there is spinach if you count feta as dairy
To remove US from the setup, go to the language section in the control panel. There's a hot-key for switching it, and there's also a system tray thingy but that can be disabled. Best thing is to just remove the US one.
I use alt-130 on the keypad. I didn't know alt-gr-e worked.
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How do you get ê and è using alt-gr?
molgrips are you still being the control, i.e. dieting heavily on a conventional diet + bike exercise? I'm enjoying how you have embraced this.
I am the still the 'control' yes. Although dieting heavily is putting it rather generously 🙂 I am eating as little as I can manage whilst doing my training, so I am putting my faith in exercise really, and eating for cycling ie high carbs etc.
Just helping out the iDave folk as best I can still 🙂 I don;t think his diet's bad at all, I'm sure it works. The reason I'm not on it is that I can be a funny eater, but mainly because I think I need the carbs to train.
There's a hot-key for switching it. Best thing is to just remove the US one.
thanks, so I've just been told! Although it worked instantly it wanted me to reboot 🙁
How do you get ê and è using alt-gr?
beats the hell out of me, éóáúÉÓÚíÍÁ€ is all I can find, and ALT-130 doesn't work on mine!
You typing 130 on the numeric keypad?
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Oh, you speak Gaelic?
Week 2 for me ended yesterday- 14:10, down from 14:13 at the end of the first week, and 15:6 at the start. So only 3 lbs lost for the week.
I'm not feeling the need (habit I guess) to continually snack anymore, which is great, had two (not particularly difficult) nights out on the bike this week, and don't seem to have suffered. Blowout day on the Saturday wasn't the huge thing I thought it would be, didn't feel the urge to binge. Couple of bits of cheese on toast, 2 milkshakes, steak and chips, two beers.
Not too bothered about tomorrow's to be honest, but it's in the plan, so guess I got to suffer..
You typing 130 on the numeric keypad?
I'd forgotten that bit!
10lbs in 2 weeks is excellent, well done.
I've found the same on blowout day and don't have much except pasta or rice with curry. I did also succumb, on my non-blowout day, to the temptation of a fairly huge black pudding supper from the chippy when I passed through Jedburgh on Monday.
It was magnificent [img] /eat-drink-smiley-7854.gif[/img]
it's called [s]"plausible deniability"[/s] being a bit busy doing more important things
Ok been on for 1 week now. Trying my best to mtfu and stick it but have managed one or two minor slips everrday.
For sweets, I found the ryebread free from cake in sainsbury's very good and i think it's allowed (if you pick off some of the sweetened ginger bits).
Getting a bit sick of beans now. and omelettes.
But at least today has been my normal food day.
Oh and I never eaten so much meat in one week before! thats been good.
Blowout day on the Saturday wasn't the huge thing I thought it would be
Heh...I nailed porridge/large Dominos pizza/2x Boxes Cookies from Sainsburys yesterday. Felt kinda bad after the pizza tho, so did 20miles on the bike.
Getting a bit sick of beans now. and omelettes.
This is where I got confused on week one. Make scrabbled eggs, boiled aswell as omlettes. I have been eating more salad and vegetables than beans in week two as the beans just did not really work for me.
Just had a lovely 3 egg omelette with spring onions, tuna and peas.
I have been keeping nice and regular though.
And the day off yesterday was brilliant. I had PIZZA!
Day off today had 3 chocolates, 2 cookies, 1 big cookie, 1 ice cream cone, 1 piece of cheese and bread.
I thought the day off would be more fun. The ice cream was a bit sickly.
I fell off the wagon today.....was not an off day but stopped in a pub while out in my mates new VXR and had a bowl of chips and a Guinness. Not the end of the world tho I guess....
Just jump back on it then, I have mucked up occasionally just by not engaging my brain before eating but I have still lost 7 pounds in under 2 weeks.
Ok. I have now been run over by the wagon and in a pub drinking beer and eating crisps. Tomorrow is another day tho 8)
iDave is a very, very busy fellow.
So, if people e-mail me, I'll see what I can do to meet the requests for information on this.
[i]Haven't managed to give up my few carbs[/i]
We're not giving-up Carbs, just eating different sources of carbs.
It seems simple to me. Either you do as the guide suggests and lose weight, or you do something else and see what happens.
No one is holding a gun to my head, I'm choosing to make a change.
Even if that takes a little work.
😉
[i]I've learnt a fair amount about different foods, i'd never cooked with beans or lentils before, overall its been a very positive experience.[/i]
My thoughts exactly !, my hat off to you for rolling your sleevs up and getting stuck in. Good stuff 😀
Its bean nearly three weeks now. Its definately worked !.
Its been an eye opener for me and I will carry the knowledge with me and I shall continue eating the meals I have learnt to make, along with the compatible items/meals I was already eating before I tried this.
recipe suggestions posted here have also been much appreciated.
As already posted by others, I view this exercise as me learning new stuff to incorporate into my [b]on-going[/b] healthier eating habits/choices.
iDave. You could have done nothing, you could have stayed quiet about what you know, but instead you decided to share and to help. Thank you very much.
😀
Solo
I have popped on 3lbs....had one extra 'off day' unfortunately this week, but still surprised. As I have been strict for the other 5 days. Maybe I am taking the eat as much as you want of nuts/egss/meat etc too far?
Bugger.
Yeah, I found that for me, the nuts were slowing progress.
I guess that just cos its written down for us, doesn't mean we should stop observing how our individual bodies take to what we're choosing to eat.
Some fine-tunning may be required.
But iDaves' suggestions point us in a good direction. imo.
🙂
S
Its bean nearly three weeks now. Its definately worked !.
Go on then spill the beans (no pun intended) How much have you lost?
I have done 7 pounds in probably about 8 days and could have done more if I had concentrated more.
Tails.
I've no scales, but things are trimmer, belts set to their usual position are loosening around the waist now. Its all good.
And the longer it goes on, the easier I find it. I do not miss anything, cos I've not given anything up.
I just hold-off for the Choc, cheese, beer, etc, until Saturdays.
But even then I don't go mad. I don't need much of a quality cheese or Beer to apprecate the flavours, esp if I don't have them every day.
I may purchase some scales soon, but I'm in no hurry.
We can all tell when we've lost weight and its happened for me, and was easy.
Ta
😉
Solo
EDIT: Oh, BTW, 7 pounds ?, good stuff, glad to see others benefiting from their efforts. 😀
And the longer it goes on, the easier I find it. I do not miss anything, cos I've not given anything up.
Same here, my first day off I didn't really eat much more drinking as I was away so took 3 days off then jumped back on. Still lost alot of weight.
This sat was my first proper day off and I ate a fair bit of sugary food as I felt I should but did not enjoy the sugar low.
C_G not going to read all the pages... has anyone suggested adding the spinach to the lentils?
I had my first blow-out on Sat (bacon+mushroom sarnie, home-made chicken+ham pie and scotch egg, cheese on toast, home-made pizza, home-made raspberry millefeuille (sp), 3 pints and half a bottle of red.
Had a few extra carbs yesterday too, but I did do a 60 mile MTB ride to justify it.
I reckon my weigh-in might be a tad heavier than Friday's.
In 2 weeks I have lost a pound.....and I had a hair cut 😐
Tails.
Sounds like you've cracked it 😉
My plan is to continue as I am now. They'll be new meals to prepare and to try, but truth is, I really don't miss bread everyday, I rarely ate potatoes anyway, same for pasta.
I've used this exercise as an excuse to myself to cut back on the booze, and its all good. Good for weight, good for the wallet.
There are loads of recipes, and the foods are easily sourced, so this is really an exercise in discipline as far as I'm concerned, when eating less bread, pasta, sugar, etc.
Generally, imo, this has been a good thread, thanks Alexxx 😉
Good luck to all who try it, I hope they get the results they're after.
For me it has worked and as far as I'm concerned iDave is right.
😀
Solo
There is a good lentil recipe in the waitrose free leaflet thingy, I can post it up if you don't have a branch nearby.
Ok. I am going to have a proper go at this again next monday, have a festival on the weekend so going to be impossible to be virtuous, so can people give me tips on where I am going wrong.
For example:
Are people just sticking to lean meats?
If you are snacking how much in a day and of what?
Are you still exercising?
On your off days how 'off' are you going?
Are you watching portion sizes or just eating loads of the approved foods?
There has got to be a reason why I am not doing as well as others dammit! 8)
Others have posted recipes, so if you want to, I guess its Ok.
Jamie.
Just curious, why next Monday ?.
1, Yes.
2, Not really.
3, Oh Yes, its those bikes you see, I love riding them. 😉
4, 3 squares, and a beer or two, maybe a bit of chocolate.
As my day off is a Saturday, I'm quite busy so don't sit around feeding.
5, No portion sizes. [i]just eating loads of the approved foods[/i]
Eating loads ??.
S
Just curious, why next Monday ?.
Well I am continuing on today. I am at a music festival from Friday so will be possible to adhere to the plan fully, but will use my off day as one of those days.
1. Ah....maybe cut down on the sausages/frankfurters 😉
2. I am eating a lot of almonds/extras. Mainly as I felt so lacking in energy last week. Will try and cut them a bit.
3. As am I, including a bit of running and resistance work....at a reduced pace as mentioned tho.
4. I am probably going too off on my off days I think!
5. Loads as in...well say whole tin of lentils, chicken breast plus veg as an example.
Im now on week 2. Over the weekend I just didnt have the same energy for riding, might be to do with not riding so much lately, dunno.
Are people just sticking to lean meats?
If you are snacking how much in a day and of what?
Are you still exercising?
On your off days how 'off' are you going?
Are you watching portion sizes or just eating loads of the approved foods?
1) yesish. Had a couple of minute steaks, tuna and cod, lots of chicken and venison. And chorizo.
2)Each day is the chorizo and spinach omelette for breakfast at about 10, carrot, celery and capsicum with hummus for lunch and snacks, dinner is meat with lentils or beans and salad (lettuce, beetroot, capsicum normally)
3) Twice a week, 2-3 hours on the bike at night. Nothing too strenuous. That's about it.
4) Saturday gone, I went a bit ott - I couldn't resist weighing myself on Sunday- over 3 pounds heavier than the Thursday weigh in. Nearly all gone after two days 'blockage' cleared itself this morning though.
5) Breakfast and dinner are filling me up, during the day I'm just eating when I [b]really[/b] feel hungry.
I think the removal of bread, pasta, potatoes, rice and dairy might be the key, but I'm not willing to experiment too much at this stage with something that is working for me.
I'm coming up for a week and a half now and have mixed feelings about this approach.
While it does feel quite healthy I don't really seem to be losing any weight, if anything I've gained a little bit of fat around the middle. Probably from all the chorizo, other meats and the nuts.
However, I don't think I've managed a whole day when i have stuck to the rules completely. e.g. I've had the odd nutrigrain bar or small jacket potato, or other small but normally considered healthy snack.
But mainly I've been struggling to stomach all the beans. Yes they definitely have their place but for more than one meal per day is hard work, even then its a bit much. Lentils and dhal are great though.
I didn't go crazy on my day off, just a bowl of cereal, sandwiches, and a pizza + beer. Eating omelettes and sausages for breakfast doesn't seem like the best way to lose weight or fat.
Is anyone else having probs and who is getting on well?
Scruff.
Think I read a post by iDave suggesting that some carbs for/during heavier exercise should be fine, just don't go mad.
I'd add that its all about us starting with an outline, a suggestion, then for us to individually work on along that theme, to achieve the results we wish to.
You'll have to figure out how to tweak what you're eating to get where you want to be.
I may take some, a while to sort out what works for them. But I wouldn't have thought it would be wasted time.
Jamie. Sup to you mate, I think from earlier posts that you've got a handle on what its about.
Good luck.
😉
S
[i]two days 'blockage' cleared itself this morning though[/i] 😯
You win todays "Way, way too much info." award 😉
S
From what I have read the people that are having a hard time even putting on weight appear to be the ones having the "odd" potato or the odd Chinese!!
This is what I eat on an average day monday to friday so far I have been having 2 days off a week and still losing alot of weight.
Breakfast - chorizo omelette or fried egg and bacon (fat cut off) or scrabbled egg and bacon or mixed nuts all with black coffee and water.
Snack at work - mixed nuts - Drinks - black coffee, water, coke zero, pepsi max, diet coke.
Lunch either chicken and peppers all cooked up the night before or chicken salad or bacon salad
Dinner - Caesar salad, stuffed peppers with mixed beans, chicken and vegetables, some lentil type meals, obviously the above chicken can be swapped for other meats.
Steer clear of processed meat like those minted lamb kebab things and other such muck. Other than that follow the plan best you can don't panic and pig out if you find yourself accidentally eating some grapes or cherries.
Your portion sizes should be no bigger than before.
I'm doing fairly well despite not sticking to this rigidly (it's physically impossible to find a conforming food for lunch near where I work and I don't have time to make lunch each day and transport all the pots etc), I went down from 17st to 16st 4 in 2 weeks but seem to have hit a plateau and bounced back up again to 16st 8 this week.
Having a "normal" day is kinda like tempting an alcoholic with a cheeky pint on friday, I can easily eat all the cals I've lost during the week in one day if I let myself. I think htis is part of my plateau problem this week!
CK.
At least you're giving it a go, and you're giving it some thought, so I reckon you'll get there. Don't stop trying and learning what works for you.
😉
S
Some beans are serpantly better than others, cannelini and butter ones I like, chickpeas OK. You can mash butterbeans up so its kinda like mashed potato. I had a can or two of bear at the weekend (away camping) and fair few diet breaking meals but eff it, it was a weekend away I'd been looking forward to it. Eat lots of flapjack and had some energy stuff in my water whilst riding.
For comparison (if you want it) I'm not on the diet, I ride something like 70-150km per week ,and run maybe another 40-50km per week. I eat:
Breakfast: Porridge or couple of slices of toast, coffee
Lunch: Half a baton (shared with my missus, she has the other half) cheese tuna ham (whatever) diet coke, yoghurt, or rice pudding
Main meal: What ever the family are having. Spag bog, chille, whatever.
I don't snack, and I don't drink. but I do eat puddings and so on, and fruit.
I weigh 12 stone. (have done for ever really...)
same as Nickc, weight has never changed...
Kev
Can someone email me the plan again as I have deleted it and a work colleague wants it. thanks email is Ands43 @ hotmail .com
Nickc, sounds like you are a lucky chap not in need of a diet 🙂
I lost 700g last week btw, for anyone who's interested.
However I also put in a blinding base ride on Sunday with 217W for 148bpm. This is the best I've done since my Mayhem solo year.
same as Nickc, BUT weight has changed...(a bit)
porridge for brekkie without fail.
sandwiches for lunch.
endless amounts of fruit (but restrict to one banana a day).
dinner - eat whatever.
run 20kms a week, swim, football and if i can ... cycle a bit.
and cut snacking on junk significantly.
I've only lost 7lbs since starting this regime at the end of last year but physically look and feel a lot fitter.
scruff - MemberSome beans are serpantly better than others, cannelini and butter ones I like, chickpeas OK. You can mash butterbeans up so its kinda like mashed potato. I had a can or two of bear at the weekend (away camping) and fair few diet breaking meals but eff it, it was a weekend away I'd been looking forward to it. Eat lots of flapjack and had some energy stuff in my water whilst riding.
hhmmm, let me think. a can or two of beer, would that be about 12 Tanglefoots and a 70 shilling, maybe a Speckled Hen or two as well?
6 0r 7 cheeseburgers...cant remember seeing them on the plan...
Lots of flapjack-as in 2 family size trays?
5 packs of Pitta bread....
a jacket spud after 30 oz of rump and sirloin...
Fried bread and fried black pudding for breakfast-never, not me guv...
I think you were slow cos you were full.... 😆
Day five of week two and another 3lbs dropped this week. Will be riding tonight then looking forward to binge day on Saturday.
Similar food intake to last week although I've had less red wine but a couple of cheeky post-supper ice creams (snickers and lion bar).
Can't say I'm missing the bread, potatoes and rice which is good. Do have spag though (with tuna/pesto) as post-ride nosh.
All in all, a happy chappy - cheers iDave.
I'm on week 3 and the whole plan has stopped working. Last Sat morning I was 12.13.8 stone, I then had the day off on Monday I was 13.2 stone this week I have barely lost anything and I'm currently at 13.1.4 stone.
Any ideas on whats gone wrong? Considering doing a 2 week stretch as I would like to get to 12 stone.
Tails, don't expect to drop 7lbs a week. Ain't gonna happen. 1-2lbs a week is all you can expect to lose healthily. Give it time since, as explained on here, it's not a crash diet plan, rather an eating change.
Any ideas on whats gone wrong? Considering doing a 2 week stretch as I would like to get to 12 stone.
Sorry, it has to be said:
Your eating too much and not moving enough.
Your eating too much and not moving enough.
You think I'm covering best part of 100miles a week on the bike plus treadmill and rowing workouts, in fact i reckon I move more than 90% of forum users. Saying that I'm eating about 100g of nuts a day, almonds, hazlenuts, cashews plus mixed seed.
Tails, don't expect to drop 7lbs a week. Ain't gonna happen. 1-2lbs a week is all you can expect to lose healthily. Give it time since, as explained on here, it's not a crash diet plan, rather an eating change.
I thought possibly I'm having this metabolic spike?
Loads and loads of fat in nuts.
And have you checked your body fat as opposed to your actual weight? I've only lost maybe a kg lately, but looking at my body it's clear I've lost a fair bit of fat, and my trousers are looser - almost gone in a hole on the belt.
i'm aware of the kcal in nuts, but surly I'm allowed to eat something FFS!!
Maybe I'll take up smoking to combat the nuts 😛
Not sure on body fat I don't pay attention to that on my fancy scales, but the lass at work reckons I look thinner.
You are allowed to eat something, but the idea is that when you exercise loads your body tells you you're hungry; but what it needs is carbs. You'll eat nuts, get not many carbs, and your body will still tell you you'r ehungry so you'll eat more.
Eat just what you need to ride, nothing more. Nuts are mostly fat and protein, neither of which you need to fuel riding...
Yes, don't pay attention to the body fat on scales - it's tosh - you look at things like how visible your muscles are, if clothes are getting looser and if people say you look thin. Other people are better at noticing this, as you tend to look at your spare tyre, where as they look at your face.
I eat loads of nuts/seeds cos I think they've got protein in them aswell as other good stuff and I dont eat meat so i need protein from somewhere.
I reckon i eat an average of about 100g of mixed fruit nuts per day, doesnt do me any harm i dont think. they also make you feel really full, I often cant hack anymore food after eating them. Sounds like your getting the miles in anyway, perhaps this diet isnt for you?
How tall are you anyway? 13 stone isnt really that heavy is it?
I'm tucking into my daily bowl of mixed nuts+raisins+salted peanuts+dessicated coconut - nom noms.
Sounds like you're doing plenty of exercise - are you eating anything you really shouldn't? Or eating late at night?
I eat loads of nuts/seeds cos I think they've got protein in them aswell as other good stuff and I dont eat meat so i need protein from somewhere.I reckon a average about 100g of mixed fruit nuts per day. Sounds like your getting the miles in anyway, perhaps this diet isnt for you?
How tall are you anyway? 13 stone isnt really that heavy is it?
I do eat meat so perhaps I need fewer nuts as I'm also eating around 100g. i have lost 7 pounds so I guess I shouldn't be to hasty!!
I'm 5'10" so i am overweight without being a total mess!
I personally don't think the iDave plan is ideal for those folk doing a lot of exercise. Also, it can be very hard to lose weight when you are exercising HARD. Some folk just build muscle when really pushing it and end up staying the same weight.
Sounds like you're doing plenty of exercise - are you eating anything you really shouldn't? Or eating late at night?
I've been reasonably good the occasional bit of fruit/milk but that's more down to not thinking than craving it.
Guess it's just a odd week I'll probably drop loads next week and being singing it's praises again.
Moving to India seems to be a good way of losing weight, I've lost a stone since coming here at Easter, although I didn't really want to - was just over 10 1/2st, now the missus thinks I'm dangerously skeletal 😯
Seems to be a combination of lots of cycling, a couple of dodgy curries, and a few missed meals here and there, and I've become a bit of a rake...
Cheers, Rich
Yeh a good one I did was spend a week lying in a bed in a hospital in morocco. I managed to lose about 3/4 of a stone
Personally I have trouble sticking to iDave's plan or indeed any "similar high protein/low carb" plan on exercise days because I just don't have the energy when during the session. So I'll have maybe a banana or piece of bread with peanut butter/nutella 20 mins before, then head out > have my normal energy food > get home > eat spag/tuna/pesto and recover from there.
Has worked for me so far.
EDIT: I'm not condemning the plan for those of us trying to stick to it while exercising - it's just that I'd rather perform better because I have the energy than not because I don't.
Right, did my first weigh in last night. When I came back from a holiday in Cornwall (a week of pasties & beer) I weighed 15st8 , Im 6ft btw.
In 10 days of the iDave diet (including a naughty long weekend away of cycling, beer and burnt food) I have lost 7lb.
Im sticking with it to do the 3 weeks, and will see whats what then. I then hope to just a have a better diet than before and keep the weight off, would be nice if I lost more but I wont be dieting as such, just eating more betterer.
just eating more betterer.
And inventing new words it appears 🙂
Spacemonkey, I have very similar experiences. I am going for light eating in general and carb supplementation whilst exercising. It works if I do lots of base riding, but if I do speed work then whatever fat I lose seems to be balanced by muscle gain.
There's perhaps something to be said though for not riding so hard for a while for the purposes of dieting, then getting back on it once the fat is gone.