Formula 1 2024 – WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS

Yeah, controlling an F1 car would be hard enough with both hands on the wheel i reckon, without having to contend with a gear lever as well.

I’m a professional driver, but I’m under no illusion about handling one of those beasts.
those guys are on a different level to us.

Speculating on the above, but if Horner and Newey can/do leave would Newey go to Ferrari to give Hamilton/LeClerc something better to use?

The F Duct?

The backing on his left glove is also different to the right.

The scarcely believable irony in all of this is how it seems that Horner could in some ways be the only one to come out of this with any sort of dignity.

would Newey go to Ferrari to give Hamilton/LeClerc something better to use?

I would imagine he would want a great many assurances written into his contract, and a massive cheque

Newey go to Ferrari

Or would he leave F1 and the teams gradually return to a more even performance level?

Can’t see Newey leaving Red Bull, Horner there or not, he’s got unlimited resources, the car is way ahead, and they can concentrate on next year’s car earlier than the rest of the field.

I’m pretty certain that should he go Red Bull have someone there ready to take over, unless Newey takes the whole design department with him.

“The F Duct?”

I thought we were trying to change the subject

“The scarcely believable irony in all of this is how it seems that Horner could in some ways be the only one to come out of this with any sort of dignity.”

I know, right?!

You can’t polish a turd, but you can stand it next to Jos Verstappen

And another bit of scandal thrown into the mix!!… 🤣🤣

Mohammed Ben Sulayem: FIA President under investigation for alleged attempt to interfere over F1 race
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/68465516

ye gads. F1 seems to be an experiment where you create a moral vacuum and then attempt to fill it with money.

Red Bull have got to really, really love Horner if they keep him over Max.

It’s not what you know…

Or who you know. It’s what you know about who you know

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Red Bull have got to really, really love Horner if they keep him over Max.

Quick, but toxic – especially with his dad around. I’d get shot but then I can’t stand him.

Don’t forget Newey had a dabble with the Americas Cup a few years back. He’s obviously amenable to exploring new things to win in, and perhaps money.

Not sure money is still the motivator, a way to keep score but not a motivator : His net worth is estimated to be a staggering $50 million, a testament to his success in the world of motorsport. As a key figure in Formula One, Newey is handsomely compensated for his expertise and contributions. He earns an annual salary of $10.2 million, making him one of the highest-paid individuals in the sport.

I think amongst designers Newey is unique in that I don’t think he’s got day to day responsibility for the car, and nor does he want it, he guides the team of designers fo’shure, and Red Bull I think is pretty unique in that way, as much as Horner has moulded the race team on the track , Newey has moulded the engineering team to what he wants. I think he’ll end his F1 career there.

The red cars are always tempting though – can you really say you’ve “done” F1 unless you’ve worked for Ferrari?

I get the feeling he’s more garagista but who wouldn’t relish the idea of turning Ferrari into a properly competitive team again?

I would imagine that Ferrari has offered him any number of opportunities and bags of cash over the years. Here he is, still at Red Bull. In his book he’s said always wanted something like the set up that he has now, and while this set of regulations plays to his strengths, I’ve no doubt that F1 will **** about with them to get rid of RB’s advantage in the same way it did to Mercedes a few years back. What he’ll do then is anyone’s guess.

The red cars are always tempting though – can you really say you’ve “done” F1 unless you’ve worked for Ferrari?

I get the feeling he’s more garagista but who wouldn’t relish the idea of turning Ferrari into a properly competitive team again?

The dream role for someone creative and technical is one where there is somone who will protect you from all the political bullshit entirely, and keep the money coming in. That’s what Horner does (/did!) well at RB. I think he will be verrrrry wary of jumping to Ferrari, which is politics central.

More likely he’ll sack the whole thing off and sail his new yacht* https://oysteryachts.com/new-sailing-yachts/oyster-885/adrian-newey-building-my-oyster/

* not that my recent F1 predictions have a good track record 😂

I read or heard somewhere (probably Andrew Benson) that Newey has twice before come very close to signing for Ferrari

From what I understand, Newey left Williams because Frank Williams and Patrick Head promised that he would be consulted on important decisions like driver selection, but then they reneged on the deal. At McLaren, he apparently rubbed up Ron Dennis the wrong way by insisting on having a physical drawing board instead of doing everything in CAD and Dennis got so pissed off that he threw all the papers off Newey’s desk onto the floor. At Red Bull, he was basically given free reign to run the technical department as he wanted. If he goes to Ferrari, he will be stuck with a technical department built by other people and he will face constant pressure from above and if he didn’t win the championship within a couple of years, he would probably face the same fate as his predecessors. I can’t see him being interested in that.

Do we think there’s any truth in the rumours that Horner was trying to buy the Red Bull F1 team…

Formula 1 Rumor: A major new twist in the Horner-Red Bull saga (Update)

More likely he’ll sack the whole thing off and sail his new yacht* https://oysteryachts.com/new-sailing-yachts/oyster-885/adrian-newey-building-my-oyster/

So not only can he design the best f1 car of the current regs he can do it working apart time so he has time to do projects like this. The other reams designers must feel really rubbish

He didn’t actually design the car himself. Apparently he focused his attention on the suspension. As technical director, he would have kept an eye on the other stuff but the work was done by others under his management. Those are the people that he hired and trained so he deserves the credit, but he doesn’t really design the cars himself anymore.

“At McLaren, he apparently rubbed up Ron Dennis the wrong way by insisting on having a physical drawing board instead of doing everything in CAD and Dennis got so pissed off that he threw all the papers off Newey’s desk onto the floor. ”

Seems deeply unlikely that a man so committed to neatness would make a mess. I’m calling bullshizzle on that.

Listen to the interview with him on Beyond The Grid….Ron found him painting his office one weekend in non-grey, and went apeshit apparently 😁

I’ve Newey’s book, I know the stories*. But I bet Ron never swept papers off anyone’s desk.

* Which is excellent, BTW.

Here’s the office paint story:

https://www.planetf1.com/news/ron-dennis-almost-fired-adrian-newey

Yup, that’s in his book too. Arrived at McLaren and everything was corporate grey, wasn’t having it. It wasn’t a great start to their relationship

“Here’s the office paint story:

https://www.planetf1.com/news/ron-dennis-almost-fired-adrian-newey ”

Yep, as stated 4 minutes previously, I know the stories. Now find me the one where Ron swept the papers off the desk.

Now find me the one where Ron swept the papers off the desk.

It’s the sexy version of the story

Heh! I don’t think they NEED sexing up. 🙂

I know Ron got someone to re-spray his kitchen cabinets a slightly different shade of grey, because he wasn’t happy with the almost identical previous grey.

Not seen him for a while but he used to paint the cars.
No idea if he still does, next time I bump into him I’ll try and remember to ask for Ron stories.

I suspect any stories will be just as dull.

I think Ron Dennis was a bit OCD
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More drama!…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/68478049

…the sport is imploding – I’m starting to think there’s a new FISA/FOCA war going on, and a break-away series will be threatened soon. There’s a lot of unhappy people in the paddock.

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More drama!…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/68478049

…the sport is imploding – I’m starting to think there’s a new FISA/FOCA war going on, and a break-away series will be threatened soon. There’s a lot of unhappy people in the paddock.

LMAO what the hell is going on

Even Marina Hyde of the Guardian is getting in on the act…

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/mar/05/christian-horner-netflix-formula-one-drive-to-survive-red-bull?ref=upstract.com

I hope Marina took the day off after writing  Keeping up with the Karcrashians

Didn’t the drain covers get dislodged in LV?

Now I’m wondering if the whistleblower is trying to distract from their bad work, or if Ben popped down to the track and loosened them off.