Official STW General Election Night thread

Labour can celebrate. 40% of vote this time compared to 31% under EM.

They’ve had a moral victory over their detractors and they dont have to tidy TMs mess! (yet)

English voters in 2015: We won’t be governed by a coalition with the SNP
English voters in 2016: We won’t be governed by Brussels
English voters in 2017: Who the F are our new masters?

Loyalist murals are brilliant, genuinely funny/scary in equal measure, youse should look up more.. art attack hasn’t a look in! 😆

Sadly, its real, and is an updated version of a mural that’s been around for a while in Lurgan.

Yes, of course it is:

ninfan

Sadly, its real, and is an updated version of a mural that’s been around for a while in Lurgan.

Yes, of course it is:[/quote]

If only the 450 million pounds of tax payers money Arlene personally pissed away with her “Renewable Heat Incentive” scheme was some kind of photoshoped joke. Or the fact that the DUP consistently used their petition of concern (a mechanism from the Good Friday agreement intended to counter sectarianism) to effectively ban gay marriage.

Or when creationist Edwin Poots (who believes the earth is 4000 years old) was health minister and he refused to allow gay men to give blood. That sounds like a joke, but it’s not. Mr Poots also tried to ban gay coupls from adopting. Or when Iris Robinson, former DUP minister and wife of former first minister Peter Robinson claimed gay people were an abomination, and that they could be cured by psychotherapy. That sounds like a joke, but it’s not.

EDIT: £490 MILLION.

Yeah to be fair that “definitely real and not at all photoshopped” mural looks an awful lot like this one:

It´s clearly photoshopped and yer unlikely to find dup murals, but still look them up if ye want a laugh! 😆

If only the 450 million pounds of tax payers money Arlene personally pissed away with her “Renewable Heat Incentive” scheme was some kind of photoshoped joke. Or the fact that the DUP consistently used their petition of conc… Ranty rant rant

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I think its remarkable that people are somehow shocked that the Conservative and Unionist party came to a deal with the main Unionist party

Still, I predicted wailing and gnashing 8)

All those complaining about the DUP would be well served to remember that this is exacrly what happens in coalition politics under Proportional Representation.

Very interesting piece from BBc here (apologies if aleady posted). Tories got Scotland right but England very wrong. What’s fascinating is they had two different teams of internal strategists/pollsters

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40222733

What a splendid day! The realisation that we are starting to reject those worst impulses that led to Brexit and grow up a bit.

Even our office blowhard was quiet today. He often churns out a made-up story about seeing a Big Issue seller pack up and get into a brand new BMW, you know, that kind of stuff.

He did have a go at banging the drum at about a quarter to five by saying “the conservatives are still in power”. I pointed out that this was only due to an untenable alliance with a marginal (in every sense of the word) party. Oh, and the former FBI director has stated under oath that Trump(who he also idolises) lied. This is likely to lead, at some point, to Trump having to take the stand and repeat the lie, under oath. Then the fun really starts.

Bless em. The likes of chewie (assuming he’s not just a troll) actually believed they were ‘part of something’ and that it was time to ‘sort the liberal handwringers out once and for all’. Instead, they’ve just made themselves look a bit unhinged.

One last thought. I wonder which of the parties it is easiest for people to be open about voting for. I know a lot of people, rightly, say it is a confidential ballot. I know that a lot of people on both sides are aggressive about who they vote for. But I suspect amongst the middle ground, there are an awful lot of people who look and feel uneasy when they admit to voting Tory. I don’t think this exists so much with middle ground Labour voters. Almost like being selfish is something to be ashamed of??

Catching up on today’s news and it’s like watching a movie that no one would believe credible.

ninfan

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That’s all you’ve got?

ninfan

Still, I predicted wailing and gnashing

The wailing will be done by Conservatives when the merest hint of association with a bunch of totally incompetent stone age bigots destroys any credibility the party had. The only good that will come of this will hopefully be extra scrutiny and scorn poured on the DUP when the DUP inevitably start doing DUP things.

ninfan – Member
If only the 450 million pounds of tax payers money Arlene personally pissed away with her “Renewable Heat Incentive” scheme was some kind of photoshoped joke. Or the fact that the DUP consistently used their petition of conc… Ranty rant rant
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I think its remarkable that people are somehow shocked that the Conservative and Unionist party came to a deal with the main Unionist party

Still, I predicted wailing and gnashing

That you starting to ramp up to full DUP mode now? 😆 good luck with that..

ps I’m not shocked in the slightest, been warning people of it since the hung parliament was first mooted.

what under PR your majority goes from an expected 100-150 to 50-100 to 75 to oh shit we are lumped in with them and I always said it was unwise to have an election

Why is your memory so hazy about what you say and why do you ignore corrections

It could easily be mistaken for brazen dishonesty

Secondly all day your posts have warned other folk [ PR if May goes etc] and not said how you feel

So how do you feel about it all today ?

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Your flute needs tuning. 😆

Don’t for one second think the DUP coalition will work! This is not the LibDems trying to gently ease the Tories in various directions with vaguely defined notions like ‘economic recovery’.

The DUP has a narrow field of interest and focus and very ‘assertive’ supporters to appease. Very soon they will test the water with regards to how much they are really need by the Tories and the result will make whoever is PM very, very uncomfortable. It’s the marching season soon – expect a forced show of solidarity in the not too distant future.

jambalaya – Member
All those complaining about the DUP

are you happy that the DUP will be have a big say in the running of the government?

I think its remarkable that people are somehow shocked that the Conservative and Unionist party came to a deal with the main Unionist party

It’s remarkable that they would spend so much time painting Corbyn as a terrorist sympathiser, only to then jump into a coallition with genuine terrorist sympathisers.

What can possibly go wrong in NI when the DUP are effectively in power, with the executive currently broken, there is now no reason to negotiate with sinn féin. Just a reminder that republicans were arrested with 6kg of Semtex a couple of weeks ago.

But who gives a s*** if a few paddies kill themselves…

Whoops- sorry, maybe that is photoshopped- apologies. My NI colleague said it was famous, but it seems its this one:

Same house.

totally incompetent stone age bigots…narrow field of interest and focus and very ‘assertive’ supporters to appease

ah, but you’ve all been saying horrible stuff like that about the Tories, and UKIP, and anyone else you didn’t like for years, haven’t you

mrmo – Member
What can possibly go wrong in NI when the DUP are effectively in power, with the executive currently broken, there is now no reason to negotiate with sinn féin. Just a reminder that republicans were arrested with 6kg of Semtex a couple of weeks ago.

But who gives a s*** if a few paddies kill themselves…

I think the biggest question is how desparate are the tories to cling on to power. How far will the DUP be able to manipulate them.

ah, but you’ve all been saying horrible stuff like that about the Tories, and UKIP, and anyone else you didn’t like for years, haven’t you

Not me. I had voted Tory up until this time and tried to defend what I thought were their values on here before.

Back in your box.

ninfan – Member
totally incompetent stone age bigots…narrow field of interest and focus and very ‘assertive’ supporters to appease
ah, but you’ve all been saying horrible stuff like that about the Tories, and UKIP, and anyone else you didn’t like for years, haven’t you

Transition complete.

That was quick..

ninfan

totally incompetent stone age bigots…narrow field of interest and focus and very ‘assertive’ supporters to appease

ah, but you’ve all been saying horrible stuff like that about the Tories, and UKIP, and anyone else you didn’t like for years, haven’t you[/quote]

Have I indeed?

dannyh – Member
Not me. I had voted Tory up until this time and tried to defend what I thought were their values on here before.

Back in your box.

What values are you referring to that have changed you in such short period of time? 😛

I saw according to the BBC May promises to deliver “certainty”. So death and taxes then, well done, awesome work.

Well they aren’t hanging about.

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Can’t believe they are getting into bed with the DUP.

Its the obvious move to get into bed with DUP. Should be very funny. What will the DUP extract for a supply and confidence deal?

Hard Brexit is dead.

Wonder what we’ll get instead?

codybrennan – Member
Hard Brexit is dead.

Wonder what we’ll get instead?

😯

Will the DUP be as toxic to the Tories as the Tories were to the LibDems?

We must not confuse matters or cloud judgement…

Let’s be clear..

The Tory Nasty Machine lost the General Election.

We should celebrate.

What will the DUP extract for a supply and confidence deal?

As I said above, it’s marching season soon. My guess is we’ll find out then.

The DUP have a comparatively small number of things they need to do to keep their supporters on-side, problem is a lot of these things are not palatable to your average voter on the mainland. The DUP don’t need the Tories, so expect some fairly wince-inducing tests of ‘good faith’ very soon.

It’s unworkable, and will rapidly unravel.

What exactly is this “Conservative and Unionist Party” May mentioned?

its the old / full name of the party – only generally used north of the border

epicyclo – Member

Will the DUP be as toxic to the Tories as the Tories were to the LibDems?

Much more so. They are like a perfect engine of incompetence, with an almost unlimited history of racism, sectarianism, homophobia and bigotry for the media to mine.

For example when Sammy Wilson agreed with a UDA statement in which they said the would ethnically cleanse Northern Ireland of catholics, should the British Army ever leave. Or again, Sammy Wilson when he commented that gays were perverts and “taigs” were sub human scum.

Or that time when the previous DUP First Minister Peter Robinson led a paramilitary force across the border into the Irish Republic, assaulting the police and staging a mock military parade.

@igm – I stand corrected. £1 bet settled by PayPal. I hope your profile email was the correct one?

Don’t spend it all at once!

its the old / full name of the party – only generally used north of the border

Ah thanks for that, I thought she had single-handedly combined the two parties.