Casual racists

do people consider that calling the takeaway a Chinky has an inference on the people

It allows me to make an inference on the person who said it and it is unlikely to be a positive one

If I was describing a Chinese looking person I refer to them as oriental.Is that safe?

I cannot believe how many folk sturggle with this

I thought equality and diversity training was a joke and pointless till i read some of the shit asked and said on here.

Wonder how the irish fella feels each time he’s called paddy on the site I was working at. Is Paddy an offensive name for someone from the emerald isle?

hora – Member
You dont OWN a Chinese wife. Her Mum OWNS your ass

QFT

Schbeemb.

Imagine you are born in here. Called names and poked fun at all your life because of your skin colour. The majority call you inferior, monkey you name it. How would you feel? Sick of it?

If you don’t believe me, go to a corner in downtown Baltimore and call a black man a ****. See what happens…

Evidently it’s o.k. If you preface that with ‘Yo! Wassup ma..’.

I’m frankly surprised by the attitude of the STW Chinese community. Just as well I prefer a pizza, kebab or tapas.

However, the Broadcasting Standards Commission held in 2002, after a complaint about the BBC One programme The Vicar of Dibley, that when used as the name of a type of restaurant or meal, rather than as an adjective applied to a person or group of people, the word carries no racist connotation

that was a decade ago, and you were being selective with your quote too

do the casual racists on this thread actually read the other posts, especially the ones from the people who are offended and why ??

Edukator– you need to do a bit 😉

The “casual racists” probably don’t see themselves as that, so you can’t expect them to answer.

Pole is IME an acceptable shortening of Polish. Unfortunately it’s often incorporated into the sentence “**** Poles coming over here and taking our jobs” Oddly though I’ve not needed to shorten the word Polish, despite being from Essex where 25% of the alphabet goes unnoticed.

Is Paddy an offensive name for someone from the emerald isle?

I dunno, what do you think bloodynora? Have you asked him? Although, judging from your normal bile, you’d use altogether different language to describe Irish people.

Feel free not to reply as usual.

Mr Junkyard what is the correct term for someone of Chinese appearance?
Im not picking a fight would just like to know.

****
pakistan you see whats happened there?

Yes, except i’ts really not the same as shortening British to Brit or Polish to Pole when its had 50 years of being used perjoratively, turning a term for a national identity into an insult. I don’t actually believe that anyone with half an education in 2012 thinks otherwise.

I’m a white, average build, British male and you can call me anything, as I’m from the dominant majority and cannot empathise oppression, bullying, hostility and rejection that would come with being overweight, black, or female. The world has hopefully moved on a bit in its attitudes in the last half century.

FTFY.

I don’t think the term ‘chinky'(to describe a restaurant rather than a person) is particularly racist. I’ve grown up with the term in Scotland, i’ve never heard it being used in a derogatory fashion, so it wouldn’t bother me in the slightest if someone used the term. I would however raise my eyebrows if someone described an individual as a ‘chink’, as I find that has negative connotations, which I do find offensive.

It could be argued that a word/term/comment is only offensive if the audience is offended by it?

just my tuppence worth on this miserable Wednesday evening

Mr Junkyard what is the correct term for someone of Chinese appearance?

Appearances can be deceiving. I would say “Chinese” or if you’re not sure and were describing a person from the Far East whose origin you were not sure of, you could just say “oriental”.

Of course, you could just talk about a person without mentioning his or her nationality, colour, race…y’know, just like he or she is a normal human being.

Heres one to confuse you but was a rapidly delivered quip…

Me a Chinese and a Indian girl was about to walk into a Scottish pub. Aman smoking at the door said ‘we dont want your sort here’.

One of the girls shotback ‘speak English I cant understand you’.

I almost fell over laughing at the situation.

He didnt walk into the pub. Or if he did it was sheepishly.

I say ‘we’. We dont get it because we are white and dont experience any eracism. ‘They’ do.

Not entirely true; years ago an acquaintance was going out with an Indian girl, lovely lass, everyone liked her, and they were very happy together.
Until it got really serious, and they broached the subject of their engagement, at which point it was made abundantly clear by her parents, who were pretty high up in the local Indian community, that the relationship ended there. It was fine for their daughter to have white friends, but marrying was unacceptable to them, and she would be shut out of the community.
There are plenty of other cultures who are just a racist as we white English are accused of being.
For the record, she defied her parents.
Back to the original subject, I went out with a beautiful half-Chinese girl years ago, and we went to the wedding of a couple of friends of ours. The wedding was in Weston-Super-Mare, and the reception in Portishead, her home town.
Anyway, I got onto the southbound carriageway of the M5 by mistake, so had to drive as fast as possible in my Moggy Minor to the next junction and turn around, arriving about thirty minutes late. As we walked in, more than a little flustered, another friend looked at us, and said, “what happened to you two then, stop off for a chinky?”
We neither of us really clocked what he said, and were just deadpan, at which point, realising what he’d just said, looking at my lovely, half-Chinese g/f, he carried on with, “or, or, a curry, or fish and chips or something?”
At that point everyone fell about at his obvious discomfort!

hora – Member

Me a Chinese and a Indian girl was about to walk into a Scottish pub. Aman smoking at the door said ‘we dont want your sort here’.

That was me- I recognised you from on here!

yes it is offensive

my mates ex was chinese and she was genuinely hurt when another housemate said exactly the same thing

ignorance isnt an excuse

Look at all these racist people popping down the **** shop or chinky giving money to pakistani and chinese businesses.If they were really hardcore they’d be smashing the windows or daubing graffiti
We’re on a slippery slope here.
If a certain section of the population are involved in criminal activity and are a “minority”, the establishment are shit scared to name the minority because its really easy to hurl the “racist ” word.
Just use it and walk away.Judge ,jury and executioner.

yer ole casual racists love playin the pedant game– are you hoping to ‘catch’ someone out, or do you just enjoy the trolling ?

There are plenty of other cultures who are just a racist as we white English are accused of being.

Yup, but in Britain white people very rarely experience real racism – apart from the kind of bullshit imagined racism that Daily Mail readers go on about. Like how they ‘banned christmas in Birmingham’ – that kind of thing.

Racism doesn’t have half as much effect if there is no power behind it either – it’s nonsense to say ‘oh well I don’t mind being called a Brit’. Pretty obviously completely different as British people have by and large never endured any serious racism, and Brit has never been used as a term of abuse.

Heres one to confuse you but was a rapidly delivered quip…

Me a Chinese and a Indian girl was about to walk into a Scottish pub. Aman smoking at the door said ‘we dont want your sort here’.

One of the girls shotback ‘speak English I cant understand you’.

I almost fell over laughing at the situation.

He didnt walk into the pub. Or if he did it was sheepishly.

Hora I would guess he was talking to you not her.

yer ole casual racists love playin the pedant game– are you hoping to ‘catch’ someone out, or do you just enjoy the trolling ?

I think you’re confusing causal with smart causal racists there.

As the epitome of middle class whiteness when rapping along to classic hip hop I wont say the N-word yet happily drop F’s and C’s all over the shop.

The chinese or some of them are quite happy to call westerners gweilo and it isnt always in a good way .

Brit also can be quite quite insulting

That was my first thought too

When I worked in an inner city school in a town with a greater than 50% immigrant community and was the only white average build male in the classroom it was perfectly OK for the students to dream up all the anti-white insults they could and use them then, crashtestmonkey? Just as well I don’t go around “filling people in”, “chopping their fingers off” or “getting offended to the point of violence”.

When I worked in an inner city school in a town with a greater than 50% immigrant community and was the only white average build male in the classroom it was perfectly OK for the students to dream up all the anti-white insults they could and use them then, crashtestmonkey.

The chinese or some of them are quite happy to call westerners gweilo and it isnt always in a good way .

Oh, other people are sometimes racist, so we should be too – good argument.

being a racist **** is not exclusively a white persons pastime. nothing makes any of it ok. personally you can choose to rise above it.

exclusively

No, just mostly.

Me a Chinese and a Indian girl was about to walk into a Scottish pub. Aman smoking at the door said ‘we dont want your sort here’.

but…Isn’t Aman an Indian himself?

boom boom

I’ll get my coat….

There are plenty of other cultures who are just a racist as we white English are accused of being

And it is wrong whoever is doing it
I dont mind you using english instead of British in this case but I suspect you get the point I just made 😉

What DD said re correct term

Nowhere have I suggested using “chinky” or any other such word for a person is acceptable, Grum. I have not said anything that resembles “other people are sometimes racist, so we should be too” you are putting words in my mouth. Read back, check and apologise if you are man enough.

I had an Asian friend at 6th form who insisted on being called pakman….

When I worked in an inner city school in a town with a greater than 50% immigrant community and was the only white average build male in the classroom it was perfectly OK for the students to dream up all the anti-white insults they could and use them then, crashtestmonkey

I grew up in Bradford FYI. As you were discriminated towards by the

immigrant community

that makes you part of the wider majority, and reasonable to assume their behaviour was as much an opportunity for retaliation. Doesnt excuse it or make it any less ‘racist’, but you had the protection of the wider community outside that closed environment.

I don’t recall justifying threats of violence at any point, so I assume the last comment wasnt aimed at me.

Tbh, Edukator, any chance you might make a point? Instead of flouncing around all hurt like.

As my bestmate and ex once said ‘you dont get it. You have white skin. You are accepted. Try being a different colour and youd experience it subtly every single day’.

I say ‘we’. We dont get it because we are white and dont experience any eracism. ‘They’ do.

Makes you disgusted, the realisation.

This ^^. Don’t start being an expert on it until you’ve experienced it. Until then, do I said before, learn what is / isn’t acceptable and abide by it.

Speaking as white/english married to a black/english woman and with 2 afro carribean/english mixed kids, I’ve seen anti-black racism from whites, anti-white racism by blacks, and (lets call it anti beige *angry smiley*) racism – All of which has been directed at any one or 4 of us, so me of it accidental, some of it deliberate. But I can tell you now that as someone who has lived amongst a black family for 12 years does not qualify me to “know what its like to be black”, I’m on the fringes.

Thankfully, KJ01 lives and has grown up in an integrated society surround (at nursery) by kids of all colours and races, and watching them all socialise together would teach a few on here a lesson they shouldnt forget.

Nowhere have I suggested using “chinky” or any other such word for a person is acceptable, Grum.

Fair enough – seemed to be the implication of what you were saying. I suppose I can apologise if you really want. 🙂

I had an Asian friend at 6th form who insisted on being called pakman….

Awesome!

I would think life is a lot easier being a person of colour than being gay,tg, disabled or i dare say old.