Can't afford heroine? Try krokodil

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Just awful.

I have read about this, but have never been able to bring myself to look at any of the attached pictures. I still don’t want to…

No e in Heroin
and thankfully no heroin in E’s… which is nice

No e in Heroin

Ermmm!

Saw a documentry about this about 2 weeks ago, very scary drug, fairly easy to make by all accounts.

… I guess this is the beginning of zombie infestation …

Old news, at least to those of us who read grown-up papers:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/krokodil-the-drug-that-eats-junkies-2300787.html

twang! 🙄

A self-extinguishing problem.

Some viewing material on the subject.
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/vice-news/siberia-krokodil-tears-full-length

isn’t it just heroin /morphine mixed with whatever solvents used to extract it from over the counter painkillers? in this case petrol…

It’s not, no – the codeine is reduced by a kitchen chemistry method analagous to meth production [reduction of allylic alcohol in krokadil v benzylic alcohol in meth]. It also needs to be demethylated – not sure how they accomplish that. The resultant desomorphine is significantly more potent than morphine, and will have a very different feel – clearance rates etc.

The horrific side-effects appear to come from the incompetent process used to prepare krokadil – it’s not an inherent property of the drug to rot your flesh. More a feature of injecting a load of malformed, acidic, dirty shite into your veins on a daily basis.

DO NOT GO THROUGH WHAT I DID AND LOOK AT THE PICTURES.

MIND BLEACH DOESN’T WORK!!

Best avoid it then?

It’s very moreish…

A self-extinguishing problem.

Life expectancy of less than 1 year!

Get me a krokodil sandwich, and make it snappy.

As Garry said, desomorphine is a legitimate drug and has been patented and used in medicine…. although not currently.
The problems with Krokodil is the shite they cook the codeine with to make Desomorph…. and the all too common mistake of missing the vein and injecting into the flesh.

None for me thanks chef.

Another fine example, along with Crystal Meth, of how the attitudes and law’s spawned by our socially responsible authorities are winning their war on drugs.

Pharmaceutical abuse in Eastern Europe has been rife for decades, these people are now managing to take it to a whole new level.

Very very sad.

Saw a comment that Russia has the most heroin users in the world. That amazed me, don’t know why.

Its just awful. What possess someone to actually do that to themselves is completely beyond me.

What possess someone to actually do that to themselves is completely beyond me.

I’d suspect a complete lack of Hope / Opportunity….

Should just legalise opium/heroin

Its just awful. What possess someone to actually do that to themselves is completely beyond me.

Mrs Daz is a drug worker. The life stories of some of the people she works with are beyond belief. It’s hardly surprising they turn to drugs as an escape.

Some awful pictures available of what this drug does. There is a vice documentary on youtube about it.

What possess someone to actually do that to themselves is completely beyond me.
I’d suspect a complete lack of Hope / Opportunity….

no money, no smack, no hope – give this cheaper thing a go

the saddest part will be young kids who will do it from peer pressure, for a dare, out of desperation, or hunger, or a way to escape the brutality of their existence

Its just awful. What possess someone to actually do that to themselves is completely beyond me.

I hear it’s very morish.

no money, no smack, no hope – give this cheaper thing a go

the saddest part will be young kids who will do it from peer pressure, for a dare, out of desperation, or hunger, or a way to escape the brutality of their existence

This answers^

Its just awful. What possess someone to actually do that to themselves is completely beyond me.

in pretty good fashion.

Saw a comment that Russia has the most heroin users in the world. That amazed me, don’t know why.

I think the fact that is so vast has plays a decent sized part in it, in that they are unable to police, care for, monitor the whole population.

That and the locality to the ‘Stans and porous borders.

I’ve always took the stance on the side of “you take whatever and suffer the consiquences” and you get no sympathy from me..
However, as I get older I have become more savvy to the oppresion and degredation some people find themselves in and have started (just) to open my eyes to the fact that sometimes folks choose stuff like this for very specific reasons, not always thier own.

I’m not opening that linky, I fear I would not recover for a few days. 😐

High rate of Russia drug use is due to poverty, lack of treatment options, police corruption, tons of organized crime, an open border between Afghanistan and Kyrgyzstan. Having said that I have read that heroin addiction in Afghanistan and Iran is really terrible.

Eurgh. I’ll try anything once. But not that.

Yeh, I do remember seeing this pop up in the news a few times, sad and awful stuff.

Seem to remember most are heroin users that can’t get heroin. But can get to a chemist, and a lot cheaper.

Suicide rates in Russia are very high too. As they are in a lot of former Soviet Block states. Grim.