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  • Canabis illegal to grow for personal use, why?
  • billysugger
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    I’m a bit daft sometimes so maybe I’m not seeing an obvious answer but lets say for arguments sake that someone, who it can be proven never has contact with another human being, is growing the drug for their own use.

    Why is this illegal?

    Item on sky news got me wondering.

    kimbers
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    because drugs are bad

    z1ppy
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    mkay

    Junkyard
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    yes cannabis is bad so better get pissed and have a fag.

    The drugs make no sense from either a moral or a harm perspective

    Clearly alcohol – linked to 75 % of violence and fags – kills half its users are the most dangerous

    Oddly heroin if you get it in consistent quality is pretty safe to do the variable quality is what tends to kill folk

    peterfile
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    Clearly alcohol – linked to 75 % of violence and fags

    Alcohol definitely makes you gay.

    stimpy
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    Peterfile’s post proves the need for a like button again 😆

    bencooper
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    who it can be proven never has contact with another human being

    Where did they get the cannabis seeds from, then?

    And, more importantly, how were they born?

    bencooper
    Free Member

    Alcohol definitely makes you gay.

    It certainly makes me quite merry.

    Gribs
    Full Member

    It’s not exactly hard to grow enough for personal use and never come into any contact with the police though.

    grum
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    Clearly alcohol – linked to 75 % of violence and fags – kills half its users are the most dangerous

    Ah yes, but there’s a simple solution – just tell people not to drink or smoke. That’ll sort it. 😉

    edlong
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    It’s not exactly hard to grow enough for personal use and never come into any contact with the police though.

    A risky plan – all you need is to be burgled and hey presto, plod in your house, what’s that plant over there sir?

    Much as I’m in the “how the hell can you outlaw a naturally growing plant” camp on this issue, I don’t see why it should make a difference if you are not interacting with other people – the law (which may be stupid) is what it is, so you either need to obey it, or risk it. Can’t see how it would be different to saying it’s okay for someone who doesn’t interact with the rest of humanity to watch child abuse images on their computer, not directly harming anyone else (assuming it’s not paid for) etc….

    PJ266
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    Can’t see how it would be different to saying it’s okay for someone who doesn’t interact with the rest of humanity to watch child abuse images

    Wow…

    Maybe because there isn’t really anything that morally wrong with having a smoke.

    There is quite a big difference I reckon. Or at least I hope there is ❗

    grum
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    Can’t see how it would be different to saying it’s okay for someone who doesn’t interact with the rest of humanity to watch child abuse images on their computer, not directly harming anyone else (assuming it’s not paid for) etc….

    😕

    billysugger
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    Can’t see how it would be different to saying it’s okay for someone who doesn’t interact with the rest of humanity to watch child abuse images on their computer, not directly harming anyone else (assuming it’s not paid for) etc….

    The images will have come from the direct abuse of a child somewhere. A crime.

    peterfile
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    watch child abuse images on their computer, not directly harming anyone else

    You may have missed something….

    edlong
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    Well, the law as it stands says that both are “wrong” things to do, and that’s what we’ve got to guide us in deciding what we can and can’t get up to, so you either obey the laws as they are, decide that you can make your own decisions on what laws to obey, or get the laws changed?

    My comparison was about querying why the “in your own home, on your own” thing makes any difference to any of that, because I can’t see why it’s relevant.

    maccruiskeen
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    Where did they get the cannabis seeds from, then?

    And, more importantly, how were they born?

    I think the Garden of Eden falls outside of UK legislative jurisdiction

    poly
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    Much as I’m in the “how the hell can you outlaw a naturally growing plant” camp on this issue,

    I don’t think they are native to the UK so that argument falls down a bit…

    Can’t see how it would be different to saying it’s okay for someone who doesn’t interact with the rest of humanity to watch child abuse images on their computer, not directly harming anyone else (assuming it’s not paid for) etc….

    well there is clearly a ‘victim’ there… you might find these as better examples: distilling your own spirits (for personal consumption) or manufacturing prohibited weapons for your own ‘private collection’, or growing japanese knotweed in a pot plant in your conservatory.

    billysugger
    Free Member

    manufacturing prohibited weapons for your own ‘private collection’, or growing japanese knotweed in a pot plant in your conservatory.

    I see risk in these two activities and your other example is a taxable industry so I see logic there..

    stumpy01
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    Just plant it in your garden and pretend it was a plant you bought at a car boot sale and you had no idea what it was, like that old couple who were recently in the news did. The cheeky scamps!

    MSP
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    Much as I’m in the “how the hell can you outlaw a naturally growing plant” camp on this issue,

    I don’t think they are native to the UK so that argument falls down a bit…

    Lots of plants that are not native to the UK are grown here without risking a visit from the plod.

    footflaps
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    UK Drug laws have very little to do with reason, morals (in the wider sense) or people’s health. Instead, they are used to impose a very specific and perverse ‘behavioural code’ on society to appeal to a minority of voters (mainly elderly Tories).

    aracer
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    Does not compute.

    billysugger
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    So up to this point it’s the law because gov say its bad.

    Don’t get me wrong I’m no advocate of any drug. I know pot heads who dont leave the house some days, I know beer monsters who drink when the doc has said it will kill them soon. I know coke heads who are fighting and smashing places up every weekend. (I do know decent folk too)

    I know people who understand and practice balance and moderation in life. So maybe it’s primarily illegal so as to babysit the people who can’t moderate their behaviour and take personal responsibility.

    alpin
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    i grew a few plants last summer…. nothing to write home about, but kept me going when supplies run out elsewhere.

    a friend had three 6ft high plants on his terrace. got over 200gr from them!

    if you can fin it there is the book Cannabis by Martin Booth. quite interesting to read how widespread the weed was before Anslinger, a US official, managed to demonise it (and get the rest of the then UN to follow suit) due to its association with blacks and jazz artists.

    Cougar
    Full Member

    distilling your own spirits (for personal consumption)

    Home distillation is illegal because a) methanol will send you blind, and that’s if you’re lucky, and b) DIY stills have a tendency to be a little explody.

    oldboy
    Free Member

    If cannabis were ever made legal the government/NHS would immediately issue recommended weekly splif units to try to spoil all the fun.

    samuri
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    Much as I’m in the “how the hell can you outlaw a naturally growing plant” camp on this issue,

    I don’t think they are native to the UK so that argument falls down a bit…

    😉

    The government make lots of money from alcohol tax and yet growing your own alcohol at home is entirely legal. Banning cannabis for personal use really makes no sense whatsoever.

    samuri
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    Home distillation is illegal because a) methanol will send you blind, and that’s if you’re lucky, and b) DIY stills have a tendency to be a little explody.

    In yet another crazy twist on British law, you can legally buy a still (that won’t produce killer whiskey or explode), but can’t use it! 😉
    http://www.lovebrewing.co.uk/still-spirits/

    chewkw
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    Canabis illegal to grow for personal use, why?

    Because you will sell some eventually, no ifs, ands, or buts … you will sell some to make profit.

    whippersnapper
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    It may not be native but once upon a time landlords here were fined for not growing hemp. We made a lot of ropes and stuff from it.

    D0NK
    Full Member

    So maybe it’s primarily illegal so as to babysit the people who can’t moderate their behaviour and take personal responsibility.

    just like booze and fag regulation….oh wait..

    We made a lot of ropes and stuff from it.

    seem to recall there’s a hell of a lot of uses for the plant.

    grum
    Free Member

    just like booze and fag regulation….oh wait..

    And unhealthy food. 😉

    chewkw
    Free Member

    D0NK – Member

    seem to recall there’s a hell of a lot of uses for the plant.

    It’s either because they think it’s cool man … cool … or they are going insane in the membrane.

    Just because you can smoke it doesn’t mean you have to.

    🙄

    teacake
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    Distillation does not make Methanol.

    Fermentation does. Fermentation isn’t illegal.

    chambord
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    Has everyone in Colorado stopped going to work, started breaking down in giggles and/or amazement at particularly interesting cloud formations and dangerously overcrowding 24hr fast food outlets?

    Until we know the long term answers to these questions I can’t see weed being legalised anywhere else, not even for “personal use”.

    zilog6128
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    I guess we’ll have to keep at eye on Colorado now it’s legal to buy it and grow it (for personal consumption). Will be interesting to see whether the whole state descends into reefer madness or if it just carries on pretty much as normal…

    ryderredman
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    Its illegal because you cant have it for personal use! You’ve got to share! jeez

    woody2000
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    esselgruntfuttock
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    Cannabis is an unauthorised substance in jail but is now being superceded by ‘Spice’, which although ‘legal’ to the public is still unauthorised in prisons & it’s causing major problems. Wer’e having ambulances/paramedics coming in every day now due to problems caused by it’s increased use.
    It’s a bloody nightmare & causing loads more issues than weed ever did.

    Side Effects Of Spice Use

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