Cameron resigns – which goon will replace him?

binners – Member
The tories (the party in government) are tearing themselves apart
They’re really not though, are they? Asking which Tory leader you get out of that shower of ****s is all fairly academic. They’re all on the same mission. Its not like any one of them is likely to suddenly discover some previously dormant social conscience, and humanity, is it? Some heartfelt empathy with the working classes? A burning desire for social justice?

Now they’re unconstrained by the whole Europe thing, and don’t have an opposition worthy of the name, they’ll all unite in their goal of bending us all over, and going in dry.

What would be funny, if it wasn’t so tragic, is listening to all the prospective PM’s banging on about equality and opportunity, and governing for the many not the few, when we all know full well, that once they pull the plug on the EU, they’ll be having a bonfire of workers rights, and gleefully ****ing the lot of us over as they turn the UK into a corporatist neoliberal theme parktbh it would be a beautiful thing if Corbyn did get in next GE. I’d probably die laughing! 😆

and the ship of fools get distracted by the **** cap Corbyn is wearing

well it’s not quite a distraction is it – he dresses sympathetically according to his political views, to align himself with others that have looked like that.

It’s a bit like Hipsters all dressing the same, they are trying to align with something.

Or that ‘political’ comedy show from the 70s whose names escapes me.

The Tory party is absolutely not going to “lurch out to the right” the middle ground is there for the taking and they won’t be abandoning it. With living wages and rising persoanl allowance they will be shoring up the middle ground. They will do this whoever of May/Leadso, wins

I’ll put myself on record

May and Leadsom are both a complete disaster – both are a lurch to the comfortable (“its time for mummy” as one MP said) rather than a bold step into the future.

Conservative party need to dominate the centre ground with the next generation and reinvent themselves as post-brexit aspiration (“things can only get better”)- not hark back to Old times

I have said clearly that I think that Rees-Mogg should be next PM (or Ruth Davidson were she a westminster MP at the moment)

I have said clearly that I think that Rees-Mogg should be next PM

+1

ninfan – Member
I’ll put myself on record
I have said clearly that I think that Rees-Mogg should be next PM (or Ruth Davidson were she a westminster MP at the moment)

WTF… the same guy who said “Michael Gove would be a prime minister as great as Winston Churchill and Margaret Thatcher” and “The British nanny is one of our nation’s finest traditions, iconic like a London taxi or a red bus, steeped in history, and, akin to the ravens at the Tower of London, important to the country’s wellbeing“

Are you PG Wodehouse?

I have said clearly that I think that Rees-Mogg should be next PM

I agree.

…and I don’t know why. He’s like Kaa out of the Jungle Book.

I disagree with most of his ideology, but feel I could talk to him for hours.

Jammers – your naive confidence in some hitherto undiscovered humanity in the people we’re talking about here is touching, but I think I’m going to stick with my original assumption that we’re about to be brutally ****ed by a triumphalist Tory party, while labour sits there with its thumb up its collective arse, having petty little squabbles with itself

TurnerGuy – Member

I think that is pretty fair – the language he uses – comrades

All Labour leaders prior to New Labour used the term “comrades”, including John Smith and Neil Kinnock.

Corbyn has never forgotten that he is a Labour politician so has always continued to use the term.

Tony Blair preferred that people weren’t reminded that he was supposed to be a Labour politician so used a term much preferred by Tories – “friends and colleagues”.

I have to say that of all the criticism I felt that could be leveled at Tony Blair it never occurred to me for one moment to criticise him for addressing Conference as “friends and colleagues”, there was plenty of serious tangible criticism to get on with.

I feel hugely comforted if Corbyn’s critics are now reduced to criticising him for how he addresses fellow party members, they must truly be very desperate for ammunition.

Good to see Leadsom is keeping it clean. She feels she would be a better PM than May because she has children and May and hubbie weren’t able to have any…Stay Classy! As somebody who wants Scottish independence, my first choice was obviously Boris;just to help things along,but she is showing potential.

To be fair, she is disgusted that the times printed what she said, after saying it she old them not to use what she had just said as this leadership battle shouldn’t be about her being mother and having children with a stake in the future, and them one day having children with also a stake in the further future, while May is a childless hag. But don’t print that even though she keeps repeating it. 🙄

but she is showing potential.

It would normally be amusing to see a proper rightwing zealot so obviously lacking in intelligence leading the party.

However with a divided nation desperately in need of fixing and the most important trade n. egotiations in our nation’s history,
Theresa is the only sane option, assuming she can manage to get the dates right for A50, we don’t want another Abu Qatada style farce…..

The Times has released the audio tape so people can make their own judgement…

Jammers – your naive confidence in some hitherto undiscovered humanity in the people we’re talking about here is touching, but I think I’m going to stick with my original assumption that we’re about to be brutally ****ed by a triumphalist Tory party, while labour sits there with its thumb up its collective arse, having petty little squabbles with itself

If when you say ‘naive’ you mean ‘completely delusional’, then yes, it’s spot on. We’re going to see one of the most right wing Tory governments in history, completely unleashed to do their best (by which I mean worst if you’re not a millionaire). Once they realise that the tax take (which will have fallen considerably by year end) doesn’t stretch to the current level of benefits / tax credits they’ll embark on a slash and burn of benefits and mass privatisation of schools and hospitals.

We’ll probably also accept TTIP without any concessions (as they’ll be desperate to sign new trade deals), giving US corporations free reign to own all our public services.

Once they realise that the tax take (which will have fallen considerably by year end) doesn’t stretch to the current level of benefits / tax credits they’ll embark on a slash and burn of benefits and mass privatisation of schools and hospitals

If only the Labour Party was led by someone who was opposed to all that, eh ?

Perhaps they can chose a new leader out of this lot :

Welfare bill: These are the 184 Labour MPs who didn’t vote against the Tories’ cuts

So, now that Leadsom’s gone – who’ll come back in to take the 2nd candidate role?
Gurve?
Bozza?
Crabb?
Fox??

No one Theresa May is our next PM.

Well I didn’t see that coming, though clearly I should have.

Quick! Everyone encrypt your data! May is coming!

…and she REALLY wants to see what grumble you’ve been looking at.

So what we have now is a situation whereby the Leave campaign won the referendum but were singularly unable to field a candidate for PM within the Tory party and as a result we will have a PM who was on the Remain side (albeit only just) in charge of negotiating our exit from the EU that she didn’t really want.

Does anyone else think they are living in some kind of farce?

Does anyone else think they are living in some kind of farce?

Armando Iannucci has ruled out a revival of TV satire The Thick of It because today’s “alien and awful” world of politics would be hard to match.

The award-winning writer and creator of the popular BBC series, which made a star of Doctor Who’s Peter Capaldi, talked about the irony in a column for the New Statesman.

Iannucci said people write to him and suggest the return of The Thick of It every time something “stupid” occurs involving politics and politicians.

“No. Absolutely not,” he wrote. “I now find the political landscape so alien and awful that it’s hard to match the waves of cynicism it transmits on its own.” He added: “Fiction is winning out because fact is no longer making sense.”

– Armando Iannucci.

Not to mention after all the unelected beaurocrat stuff, we have about as unelected as possible a PM.

Someone who sat on the fence like May did, does not fill me with confidence that she can deliver.

Does anyone else think they are living in some kind of farce?

My palm seems permanently stuck to my face at the moment.

Not to mention after all the unelected beaurocrat stuff, we have about as unelected as possible a PM

Well it’s the third time it’s happened in my lifetime and as been pointed out many many times it’s perfectly correct and consistent with our electoral system.

Someone who had the sense to stay away from both the Leave and Remain campaign’s more fantastical claims is smarter than all the people who have been tripped up by their own lies.

Not to mention after all the unelected beaurocrat stuff, we have about as unelected as possible a PM.

As elected as Gordon Brown, John Major, James Callaghan, Winston Churchill, David Lloyd George, Neville Chamberlain, Alex Douglas-Home and I could go on. This is not a new principle that the elected government changes leader during the term of government.

as been pointed out many many times it’s perfectly correct and consistent with our electoral system.

Unless, of course, it is done by Them, you know, the bad guys, the ones you don’t agree with.

Let those that manned the barricades against the coronation of Gordon Brown cast the first stone.

No one Theresa May is our next PM.

She’s the loser in a stepping-backwards competition

gonefishin – Member

Not to mention after all the unelected beaurocrat stuff, we have about as unelected as possible a PM

Well it’s the third time it’s happened in my lifetime and as been pointed out many many times it’s perfectly correct and consistent with our electoral system.

Yes I completely agree. However, from a farce point of view it’s an added facet of humour given one of the rallying cries of leave was ‘get control back from the unelected officials’ and we now have a PM voted for by 199 people.

So what we have now is a situation whereby the Leave campaign won the referendum but were singularly unable to field a candidate for PM within the Tory party and as a result we will have a PM who was on the Remain side (albeit only just) in charge of negotiating our exit from the EU that she didn’t really want.

It certainly seems odd, but its probably better that we do have a ‘Remainer’ and a woman to boot, to negotiate our exit. She won’t engender the ‘hate’ from EU that someone like Boris or Gove or even Leadsome would have….hopefully! The leave camp have got what they want and probably don’t really want to do the dirty work, as Boris showed.

However, from a farce point of view it’s an added facet of humour given one of the rallying cries of leave was ‘get control back from the unelected officials’ and we now have a PM voted for by 199 people.

That’s a fair point and one that I missed. In my defence though it’s difficult to keep up with all the farcical points of this on going debacle.

Hurray for Taking Back Control

I feel so empowered!!!

I think you have to give credit to Theresa for her leadership campaign strategy of sitting back and doing absolutely nothing while her opponents individually commit acts of Seppuku

we have about as unelected as possible a PM.

that’s because you vote for the party not the president PM, in our seemingly inexorable drift towards US style presidential politics it’s a point many seem to miss.
Maybe if the EU had a president elected by all in the EU then it would be perceived to be more democratic (but our outgoing PM didn’t like that idea)

Given Mays track record for implementing things, I’m quite positive, brexit is being implemented by someone with a track record for failure to complete. Hooray.

Hurray for Taking Back Control

Taking Back Control: TBC

Given Mays track record for implementing things, I’m quite positive, brexit is being implemented by someone with a track record for failure to complete. Hooray.

i like your thinking! fingers/toes etc crossed.

Will May do another Abu Quatada?
………. and miss the deadline for A50 renegotiation so we’ll get dumped out with no deals in place whatsoever?

the tory press are going to frottage themselves into a gibbering mess with all the Thatcher comparisons

at least as leadsome kindly pointed out May doesnt have kids tho!