Boston Marathon bomber sentenced to death

You don’t seem capable of doing that, possibly because it suits your personal views to miss the obvious difference.

I don’t seem capable? You’re fond of yourself; aren’t you?

You just need to be able to see the difference between two entirely different types situation.

It goes a bit deeper, but keep trying, you’ll get there. Think also of the ‘entirely’ identical parts…

I don’t seem capable?

Well it’s either that, or you ignored it on purpose to suit your argument

Think also of the ‘entirely’ identical parts…

The situations are entirely different.

They have the same end point. But the way there is entirely different.

Good result.

As others have said, there is a world of difference between bombing a crowd looking to inflict as much terror, pain and suffering on innocent people….and passing the death penalty as punishment/revenge for that crime….it seems fair and apt given what he did.

He has no role to play in society, why waste money and resources keeping it alive?

It costs more money to execute than to imprison for life without parole.

Good result.

The unnecessary taking of another life can never be a ‘good result’ Just shows that we have dropped to their standards.

He has no role to play in society, why waste money and resources keeping it alive?

It? (Possibly a Freudian slip there…)

Anyhow, there are plenty of criminals who committed “lesser” crimes who’ll be spending the majority of their lives in prison, and for all intents and purposes, have no role to play in society. Should we murder all of them too?

Just to be clear, I don’t agree with the death penalty personally.

But I can see why people do, without labelling them them as “morally hypocritical” or “philosophically retarded and impotent”

I just don’t think it works (Mistakes can’t be rectified, not an effective deterrent… etc)

And as such, it’s pointless.

Muddydwarf….if that’s the case they need to find a cheaper way to execute prisoners.

Passing the death sentence in response to a crime is not sinking to the same standards as the murderer.

re. It. No Freudian slip there, it stopped being human when it committed those killings and maimings.

Regarding other prisoners who may never leave the prison system and issuing the desth sentence. For murder?….absolutely. Career criminals?….nope, even I can see that’s a bit harsh.

Aren’t opinions great?….some of us can even express them without throwing insults at those we disagree with.

Glad he received the death penalty although I fear it will be commuted to life without parole, a poor compromise in this case

As an aside the feeding him pork/bacon etc how do we know he eats only Halal food, he could well eat those as a matter of course

Also US special forces have killed a senior ISIS commander with a ground operation in Syria and taken his wife to Iraq I imagine for interrogation.

For murder?….absolutely.

Yeah, as we all know, juries never get it wrong do they?

even I…

Even you, eh? Jolly decent of you.

Btw, at which degree of murder would you be happy to kill/not kill them…any? Just get rid of them all?

It costs more money to execute than to imprison for life without parole.

Go on then, explain how a cocktail of drugs & any other factors can cost more than keeping a prisoner locked up for say 25 years.

In 2005, it cost an average of $23,876 dollars per state prisoner. State prison spending varied widely, from $45,000 a year in Rhode Island to $13,000 in Louisiana.[23][166]

In California in 2008, it cost the state an average of $47,102 a year to incarcerate an inmate in a state prison. From 2001 to 2009, the average annual cost increased by about $19,500.[170]

In 2003 among facilities operated by the Federal Bureau of Prisons, it cost $25,327 per inmate.[171] Source, Wikipedia.

A report by the organization, “The Price of Prisons,” states that the cost of incarcerating one inmate in Fiscal 2010 was $31,307 per year. “In states like Connecticut, Washington state, New York, it’s anywhere from $50,000 to $60,000,” he said.

Source, http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-cost-of-a-nation-of-incarceration/

I cannot understand why people are getting so het up about a bloke over 3000 miles away who callously plotted and carried out the indiscriminate bombing of non-combatants.

We no longer have the death penalty here in the UK what is the big problem ?

Where was the moral outrage when black South Africans were summararily executing fellow black Africans in South Africa the other week ?

Deadlydarcy, being found guilty of murder implies intent.

If you can convince a jury otherwise you may find yourself found not guilty or before getting to court your charge might be for manslaughter instead if the CPS feel it’s more appropriate…..but if your intent was to kill then you should face the death penalty.
Very few shades of grey on this for me.

Where was the moral outrage when black South Africans were summararily executing fellow black Africans in South Africa the other week ?

I guess the difference is that this ‘death’ if it ever actually happens (they’ll be decades of appeals first) is state sanctioned and they’ve spent 5 months deciding on it. Which makes it much worse than heat of the moment violence in my opinion.

Go on then, explain how a cocktail of drugs & any other factors can cost more than keeping a prisoner locked up for say 25 years.

Because they’ll spend millions of dollars on appeals etc over the next 30 years before the sentence is ever carried out. Most inmates sit on death row for decades before being released after a miss-carriage of justice was ruled, or finally executed.

Which makes it much worse than heat of the moment violence in my opinion.

Well heat being an operative word here as some of them were necklaced which normally means the arrangement of petrol and a few tyres !

personally, see no difference between this death penalty and beheadings by isil.

At some point someone needs to have the strength to accept all killing is wrong.
Or we just go on killing each other.

Costs of locking someone up for life is entirely moot, those are the costs a decent society must carry. It is what makes us better than them.

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Scum, I’d pull the trigger if they’d let me.
I bet you wouldn’t.

I would, it would certainly be cheaper than life inprisonment, the loan of a rifle and the cost of one bullet, which would be around a dollar or so, depending on calibre.
Think of it as being suitably Old Testament punishment, an eye for an eye.
And this coming from someone who won’t kill wasps.
They, at least, fulfil a useful function in killing other pests.
Think of me as the wasp.

Just an example (California), not taking into account the massively increased legal costs involved in a trial that seeks the death penalty, or the subsequent years of appeals.

“The additional cost of confining an inmate to death row, as compared to the maximum security prisons where those sentenced to life without possibility of parole ordinarily serve their sentences, is $90,000 per year per inmate. With California’s current death row population of 670, that accounts for $63.3 million annually.”

Rehab the poor guy. He screwed up big time and needs help from people who want to help him. Note the emphasis there.

Or are we all sheep who think Anglo-American culture and rules are God?

Blaming others to distract attention away from your own cunning selfishness is one of the pillars of Anglo American way.

Very doubtful he had a fair trial when decision makers are seeing through a predetermined red lens.

General question: Do you sir consider yourself an English or a Human first?
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personally, see no difference between this death penalty and beheadings by isil.

Oh dear

At some point someone needs to have the strength to accept all killing is wrong.

Jesus tried that philosophy and look what happened to him

HAS NO ONE ELSE CLICKED YET THAT CHEWKW IS AN ALIAS OF THE MENTALIST THAT KEEPS GETTING BANNED FROM HERE???

Can’t remember his name but it’s the guy from London that started the anti STW Facebook page. It’s so obvious!

Nope.

Rehab the poor guy.

Easier said than done, believe me.

Heard something this morning where some of the relatives of the victims didn’t want the death penalty. The reason was because it didn’t give them closure, because the death penalty would result in a decade or more legal wranglings before the sentence would be carried out. They would have preferred life with no chance of parole as it would have closed these terrible events for them.

It’s all desperately sad that people lost their lives, were injured so terribly and that there are people who carry out these atrocities.