Bosch Unveils new Smart System and 750Wh Battery at Eurobike

Today at Eurobike Bosch revealed plans for their new Smart Bike system. The new system consists of their new Flow app, control unit, display, battery …

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Bosch Unveils new Smart System and 750Wh Battery at Eurobike

The amount of people out and about on ebikes now is amazing. I will definitely get one eventually. Watching the guys in the bike park do double the laps I am doing, in the same amount of time is doing my head in. This article is exactly why I am not jumping quite yet. Think there are many cool things to come and much improved systems down the line. It will mature and settle down as more people get going on them. Also my legs still work, just … 🙂

Extra wattage battery is a good addition, well done Bosch.
I’d like to see the gov increase the maximum speed from 15mph to 20 at least.

@ff29 – I’d wait until manufacturers get the waterproofing figured out. The British climate seems to kill a lot of ebikes through water ingress.

Extra wattage is good, but only if it isn’t with a weight burden. Compared to the Shimano E8000 system released in 2016, 504 Wh @ 2.6 kg = 194 Wh/Kg, the Bosch doesn’t fair well at 750 Wh @ 4.4 kg = 170 Wh/kq.

Im disappointed Bosch havent developed a half fat system like the Levo SL im sure that would be a winner.

My Shimano motor has just died after 8 months of use from new, with no jet washing or hose pipes or anything. Few muddy rides, but mostly I use my hardtail for that.

What I’d really like to see is support for when the 2 year warranty runs out (or isn’t applicable, in crash damage for instance).

Currently Shimano offer zero spares and no repair service for their motors, just has to go in the bin and you buy another for 800 pounds or so! Some people have managed to replace some of the bearings but that’s it.

It’s a pity “right to repair” laws don’t apply, but they only seem to apply to white goods?

I wouldn’t buy another eMtb powered by a non-repairable motor.

The Bosch display is clunky and huge compared to the Shimano one.

If this new one means you can run it without a display at all I’d really welcome that.

With the Bosch especially having ’emtb’ mode, knowing what mode you’re in all the time in massive letters is even less important.

How interesting. These comments. Thanks all. Especially about the water ingress. I am sure that the motors will get better and motor repairs will have to be more modular and environmentally friendly. It’s a tragedy to bin a whole motor. There must be a way to service/recondition them. Anyway I am still on the fence for a while so hopefully these are all growing pains which will get resolved.

Rock Shox e specific forks have some very nice mudguard mounts.
Maybe mudguards are key to not killing your motor. Do e bikes in drier climates last longer? Someone must have warranty stats.

Really disappointed that Bosch are persisting with their proprietary “connectivity” bollox. The lack of any sort of integration with third party GPS and sensors is really poor. But the chance to tweak the support levels and do over the air updates is welcome.

The new battery also sounds really heavy. Not sure this is a great advance.

Really poor presentation, ok English clearly isn’t their first language, but the two presenters looked and sounded like this was the first time they had seen the script. For a company like Bosch and for something as important as this get some pro’s in to do the presentation. Just because you have a senior position in a company it doesn’t make you a great communicator in front of what sounded like quite a small audience most of whom were streaming rather than actually in the same room. I switched it off after a few minutes, including the naff video, and read the STW highlights instead, I was embarrassed for the presenters. Maybe it was more professional in German?

Wonder if that nice big battery would retro fit into a 625 Wh power tube frame?

For me a single bigger (and getting even bigger) battery isn’t the way to go, much prefer the levo sl type approach, smaller main battery plus easy add on battery (plus could get yet another in rucksack). Weight you don’t use is a waste, even on an ebike. Maybe a 750 that was a main 250 plus two click on 250s (with only needing to install the main 250 ) so you could do 250/500/750 bikes plus external 250s

Wonder if that nice big battery would retro fit into a 625 Wh power tube frame?

Nope, it’s longer, sadly.

Honestly, the idea of riding an E-Bike leaves me cold. Yes you can go further and climb hills faster, but at what cost?
Lugging a humping heavy big bike around some of the tricky off-piste and scary down bits would remove all the fun.
And the cost FFS, 2 or 3 three decent bikes could be bought for the price that they go for.

Honestly, the idea of riding an E-Bike leaves me cold.

Nobody cares. Ride your bike and have fun. Stop worrying that someone might be having more (or less) fun than you.

Wonder if that nice big battery would retro fit into a 625 Wh power tube frame?

It should fit into a 2021 and newer whyte as they have fittings for the longer battery, but the connectors are entirely different. Perhaps if someone made an adapter loom it would work.

I must agree that the idea of easy to connect ‘extender batteries’ mentioned by towzer is probably a better idea anyway. Something like a 250 Wh battery that fits into a bottle cage and connects to the external charge point sounds ideal. Means you don’t have the extra weight on your shorter trips. I think there are some out there for some systems, but not yet for Bosch? Unless anyone out there knows better?
P. S. Seadog101, I ride analogue and ebike, including 60km 2000m big hike a bike days out on my leg powered carbon Bizango, different tools for different jobs m8.

Nobody cares. Ride your bike and have fun. Stop worrying that someone might be having more (or less) fun than you.

Not just about fun though is it. Given the growing problems of climate change and the role of energy production in it we should all care about technology that increases our energy demand. The bike is a brilliant concept and about as environmentally friendly as a form of transport can get. Ebikes are clever, but they’re not progress in a society sense.

Thanks all. Especially about the water ingress

I’m thinking of getting my sewing machine out and creating a ‘rain jacket’ that covers the downtube ,the headset and motor. I reckon I could use goretex material, elastic and velcro, and maybe neoprene, to make something than covers all. And while it wont be 100% water tight, it would keep the majority of heavy rain from streaming down into the electrical component areas.

I’ll add it to my thousand other things to do list 😆

Market opportunity for someone 😉