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  • Boris Johnson!
  • Premier Icon ernielynch
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    You want liberals to vote for Johnson?

    Yeah I thought that engaging with you was probably not a good idea Kelvin. I should have gone with my instinct but decided instead to give you the benefit of the doubt.

    Premier Icon kelvin
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    What is your point? I’ll buy a pint for anyone else that can untangle it…

    Premier Icon mefty
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    Middle class voters were more likely to vote for Johnson

    Actually Johnson’s lead in the 2019 election over Labour was greater among C2DE voters (15%) than among ABC1 ones (10%).

    Premier Icon mefty
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    My figures are based on the big yougov post election survey which is likely to be a far better reflection.

    Premier Icon kelvin
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    Fair enough. BP vote being shown there is interesting as well.

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    ipsos reporting by year is pretty enlightening…

    https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-8749/CBP-8749.pdf (page 55)

    Years

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    Those charts just seem to reinforce that pretty much everyone seems to like the message that the Tories are putting out, that you can be a bit racist, hate the foreigners, not GAS about Northern Ireland.

    Is that how “most” of the UK identifies now, or just the bubble that this poll was taken it?

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    Those charts just seem to reinforce that pretty much everyone seems to like the message that the Tories are putting out

    Not everyone. In fact they indicate that most people (still) don’t.

    Premier Icon ernielynch
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    Latest Westminster voting intention (12-13 Oct)

    The ten percent lead for the Tories is bigger than it’s been for a while but support for the Tories doesn’t seem to have changed much.

    41% isn’t that much more than 39%, which is the lowest it’s been for the Tories in over a month.

    31% for Labour might represent no change from the last Yougov poll but it is significantly lower than Labour support in other recent polls.

    No great surprise really when consider that the last time the Labour Leader made the headlines was a while back when he announced that in his opinion the next James Bond should be a woman.

    Premier Icon dazh
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    No great surprise really when consider that the last time the Labour Leader made the headlines was a while back when he announced that in his opinion the next James Bond should be a woman.

    Was that before or after he called for geronimo the alpaca to be killed? I can’t remember.

    Premier Icon kelvin
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    Trying to work out which thread to put this one in… I suppose this is the key one, as it sums up Johnson…

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    Wow. If that is not sticking the knife in, I don’t know what is.

    Premier Icon MoreCashThanDash
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    Takes one to know one springs to mind

    Premier Icon kelvin
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    Absolutely. Both narcissistic sociopaths. Both have “successfully” reshaped this country though, and got their time on the throne (or trestle table in the number ten rose garden).

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    It’s a very good description though. I know someone IRL who fits it very well – they aren’t lying exactly it’s just that they don’t really know or care whether it’s true or not, they will just say whatever suits their purposes to get what they want. Similar superficial ‘charm’ also. Pretty classic sociopath/narcissist traits.

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    it’s just that they don’t really know or care whether it’s true or not, they will just say whatever suits their purposes to get what they want

    Sounds like everyone on this forum who posts to these silly political threads. 😄

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    So is this the start of the Rishi camp’s smear campaign? Yes he operated within the law by forming a Childcare support bubbble, but why did the story emerge now?

    In Sumamry BoJo had a friend round last Christmas claiming she was part of a Childcare Support Bubble.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/oct/18/nimco-ali-christmas-stay-boris-carrie-johnson-covid-lockdown

    Premier Icon MoreCashThanDash
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    BBC News – Budget 2021: Ministers pledge £500m to support young families
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59018031

    Or SureStart as it used to be known, pre-austerity.

    I remember MrsMC bring up till 3am on election night prepping a court report to get some kid taken in to care at a cost of hundreds of pounds a week, and saying that early intervention via SureStart would probably have prevented it, for much lower cost.

    Bunch of **** idiots.

    Premier Icon kelvin
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    Or SureStart as it used to be known, pre-austerity.

    Some £82m will be given to 75 local authorities to fund the new family hubs

    Shoe string budget? Or ready to blame local authorities for not delivering? SureStart budget was well over a £billion a year.

    Anyway, closing SureStart centres damaged people’s lives and cost the country far more than was saved by closing them. They do need to return (the government can call them whatever they want if it saves them having to admit to the damage they’ve done), but they need to fund them properly. Done right, they save money.

    Premier Icon MoreCashThanDash
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    Anyway, closing SureStart centres damaged people’s lives and cost the country far more than was saved by closing them. They do need to return (the government can call them whatever they want if it saves them having to admit to the damage they’ve done), but they need to fund them properly. Done right, they save money.

    SureStart wasn’t always spent wisely – our affluent middle class village with its various mums and toddler groups, and a “proper” Surestart 2 miles away, really didn’t need one, but absolutely, invest in solving problems early before they become bigger, wider and more expensive problems

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    That SureStart centre would probably be covering a far larger geographic area than one in a less affluent area though. And like many services, more people may need them in more deprived areas, but all areas have some people who need them.

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