Is the next competition for a picture of you in lycra to help me burn it off?

😆

Nah matey, you can have one of those anytime you like shweeetie 😉

bump

‘high nervous energy’ or ‘stressy’. They may not exercise but are constantly moving… fingers strumming, knees jiggling…

thyroid, anxiety, speed, interview coming up, needs the toilet.

But that doesn’t explain all the skinny people who don’t exercise but eat lots.

I didn’t say it was the only factor to affect your metabolism.

Or the people who are fat despite watching what they eat and exercising.

It’s quite possible to exercise without enough intensity to change you metabolic rate.

>But that doesn’t explain all the skinny people who don’t exercise but eat lots.

Mike do they really exist?

Nice to meet you.
I know things will change as I age.

The only people that I know that fit anything like this discription would also be described as having ‘high nervous energy’ or ‘stressy’.

add into that cigarette’s, coffee, drugs etc…

Mike do they really exist? The only people that I know that fit anything like this discription would also be described as having ‘high nervous energy’ or ‘stressy’. They may not exercise but are constantly moving… fingers strumming, knees jiggling…

*** Must log out and go home to pay bills ***

TSY.
You’re really clutching at straws now.
My Ex could eat cheese and choc for England an never put weight on.
And she sat about alot.
Mike is right, those people really do exist.
And their existence totally explodes the eat less move more myth, the alter of which you worship at.
Sorry dude.

I’m really going now.

Bye, bye.

add into that cigarette’s, coffee, drugs etc…

Woah woah WOAH!
You fatties are so quick to generalise… 😉

Left over steak and kidney pie with a big wedge of of crusty white bread for lunch, hope you idavers enjoy you beans or whatever as much

Woah woah WOAH!

that’s old fashioned speak for stop a horse

LOL Solo – worshipping at alters?

Shame you couldn’t stick around to tell me what I’d missed from Taubes.

If those skinny types do exist… don’t they explode all your theories too? Just a thought.

Or are there some exceptions to the average person? You know the type… the ones who don’t need to scrutinise their hormone levels to achieve a happy weight.

flouncy flouncy flouncy

* reports post for bullying*
Flounces again

Is anyone really scrutinising their hormone levels? Personally I have cut out wheat, rice, potatoes etc and eat more veg and pulses to replace it. If I eat these things not on a cheat day or for exercise purposes I accept it may be detremental to fat loss. My activity levels have dropped as I’m struggling with commuting/child care issues, but I haven’t gained any visable fat.

flouncing is well known to raise your metabolic rate.

*reports junky for cheating the system*

Good point and how many calories have I lost through gentle sobbing and rocking back and forth?

cannabis raises the heart rate, why not roll up a ‘cannabis cigarette’ as i believe you kids call them nowadays and relax? its the best way to lose weight by relaxing.

It’s the little things that make the difference.
“Aggregation of marginal gains” as Dave Brailsford puts it.

So now I leave my Rustler’s burger at the other end of the bench, and every time I need a bite, have to scoot my caster chair over, then scoot back again.

So now I leave my Rustler’s burger at the other end of the bench, and every time I need a bite, have to scoot my caster chair over, then scoot back again.

that, is dedication. i do something similar, its genius really but i dont like to boast about how damn clever i am: i keep the fridge in the kitchen, and the TV/sofas in the lounge.

amatuer
my kitchen is upstairs and my living room* downstairs

* working class for lounge iirc

living room? thats posh for lounge, or ‘laahhhhhnge’ as we call it below the british equator.

does living in a house instead of a bungalow increase your BMR? think it does.

EDIT – i have no idea why i typed lounge instead of living room, i’ve always called it a living room! might as well have typed couch instead of ‘sofa’ *slaps self across the face*

freeundred

i’ll freehundred you in a minute!

Don’t 300 me.

Solo – Member

My Ex could eat cheese and choc for England an never put weight on.
And she sat about alot.
Mike is right, those people really do exist.
And their existence totally explodes the eat less move more myth, the alter of which you worship at.
Sorry dude.

They cannot alter basic physics – its an energy balance -to remain slim they are using those calories somehow.

There must be a calorie imbalance to later weight – simple basic science.

yes some diets may make this easier of harder but the basics remain there.

They cannot alter basic physics – its an energy balance -to remain slim they are using those calories somehow.

Perhaps their piss is full of sugar?

The key is, they’re not storing the calories as fat. So, why not?

They cannot alter basic physics – its an energy balance -to remain slim they are using those calories somehow.

The problem is that your model seems to be woefully inadequate, does it not?

Otherwise why was the gf not fat?

Simply putting the fat in your stomach does not guarantee it enters fat stores.

the argument was that insulin levels affect whether you convert calories to fat and therefore you eat more because you still feel hungry.

it said if you eat 2000per day and need 2000 but insulin suddenly makes you store 500 then you need to eat more to not feel hungry etc.

you are right though you still eat more than you consume and you cannot store fat long term if you are not eating an excess as you would also consume the fat

Perhaps their piss is full of sugar?

They should bottle that.

you cannot store fat long term if you are not eating an excess

Unless your BMR changes or your actual work out put during exercise changes. Or your work output stays the same but your efficiency changes.

AND SO ON

It’s not just insulin, it’s about 20 hormones.

Otherwise why was the gf not fat?

Because she didn’t exist?

The key is, they’re not storing the calories as fat. So, why not?

super hot underbeard leading to energy loss through heat.

They should bottle that.

Molly any of those changes you mention would mean you are suddenly consuming in excess of what you’re burning??

They would, yes.

But then there might be changes that mean you store less of what you eat. Like a change in insulin response.

Are you suggesting a reason or model that violates the laws of thermodynamics then molgrips?
She somehow magically removed the energy she consumed? or did she just consume what she used?
AS TSY notes you have stated reasons that later how much you burn but they have not altered the relationship between what you consume and what you eat.

Are you suggesting a reason or model that violates the laws of thermodynamics then molgrips?

Of course I’m bloody well not.

A human body is not a simple heat engine.

What you eat isn’t necessarily all made available for exercise.

And the energy you ‘use’ is a massive variable, NOT just dependent on how much exercise you do.

so basically i haven’t seen a single post that disproves the 1st law of robotics, calories out against calories in. but we’ve established the already known by anyone who studied biology at GCSE level fact that the rate at which the body burns calories is effected by pretty much anything.

right.

How can you store energy[ put on weight] if the energy of what you eat is less than the energy you use?

We all know how this happens and the interactions between many lifestyle and other factors is complicated but that fact is true and simple
you need to eat more than you use to put on weight..ther emay be many reasons why people do this but this is the cause of weihht gain

EDIT: Sorry trying to keep up with you molgrips

I dont disagree Phil

It’s not just insulin, it’s about 20 hormones.

Right, I think we’re all clear on insulin and sugar now. Which other ones? What’s the best food to eat to promote glucagon production?

How can you store energy[ put on weight] if the energy of what you eat is less than the energy you use?

This question is left unanswered…

They cannot alter basic physics – its an energy balance -to remain slim they are using those calories somehow.

Or just pooping them out the other end..
Sawdust has plenty of calories in it, but I doubt I’d get fat on it.
Although that’s somewhat facetious response, it wouldn’t seem unreasonable to assume that some people have stomachs and intestines that are poorer at extracting energy from food than others. Hence the possibility of some skinny people being able to stuff themselves and stay slim.

How can you store energy[ put on weight] if the energy of what you eat is less than the energy you use?

You can’t.

But it’s a useless oversimplification.

Philc is right – it is calories in v calories out, but both values are wildly affected by so many factors that it’s POINTLESS TO KEEP GOING ON ABOUT IT

it wouldn’t seem unreasonable to assume that some people have stomachs and intestines that are poorer at extracting energy from food than others. Hence the possibility of some skinny people being able to stuff themselves and stay slim.

Exactly. Our gut fauna vary a lot, which is why some people can’t eat much X it gives them wind etc etc.