Essentially the physics of weight loss is easy, but the reality is is that implementing the changes needed to comply with said physics [in a real life living, breathing, stressing, rushing human situation] are complex and riddled with failure.

This is why we (read I) often have to resort to treatments that cause “flatulence and greasy diarrhoea”, remove actual portions of someone’s gut, or shrink their stomachs just so that it becomes physically painful to fit a lot in it. All these treatments do is reduce the volume, or reduce the absorption of calories, that passes over their tongues…..
Yes, the higher tiers of weight loss programmes within the NHS also involve an element of counselling and psychology, but the principle of proper “whoa where did all that weight go” management still comes down to simply restricting calories.

DrP

TSY reminds me of an exuberant puppy – completely harmless but unaware of his actions.

Labradoodledoodle.

😛

I’m not trying to be harmful C_G… I do love chewing on slippers though.

Wow, I’ve just had an email from Oxford Uni’s Centre for Diabetes, Endocroinolgy and Metabolism to say they have a volunteer for my new improved body far measurement technique. I’m stoked. 🙂

I don’t agree with the cotton gloves approach. If that’s what works for you, great

You mean you don’t agree with it, or you don’t think it’d be good for someone like you?

Well not really – a car is a very simple model. Work done is a function of altitude gained, air resistance and road resistance, and all the fuel used is burned in the same way.

I’m afraid not, that just shows you’re not quite up to scratch on engine knowledge. There’s a whole raft of combustion strategies that function different ways and provide differing benefits and problems. But ultimately fuel in*some efficiency factor=work out. Which is identical to any other engine, including humans. I advanced it to hybrids to allow the storage and use of excess energy.

Hmmm… certainly not good for someone like me. Coffeeking summed up my thoughts well…

he found a different way of putting it that made people happy to see they’re a victim in all of this and need some help.

If this is what some people need and it gets them results which ultimately make them happy… fantastic.

The victim still needs to address what goes in their mouth though…

Darcy – when are you free for bodyfat % testing?

Oh come on, I know enough about engines, but it’s still far simpler than a human body.

Which is identical to any other engine, including humans. I advanced it to hybrids to allow the storage and use of excess energy

Right, and there are simple algorithms written by a Japanese techie to govern exactly how that works.

Maybe I can see the source code for my body and see exactly how to tweak it? Perhaps I could have a remap?

Firstly, firstly.
Phil, mostly, liking your posts.
You, like Molgrips.
See that its a complex issue, as the workings of the Human body are, complex.
Spot on !.
😉

TSY.

I’ve read your posts over the last few pages, along with those from most others.

Firstly, you question the existence of my partner of 21 years.
This enrages me beyond measure.
You are beyond joking around now.
Recently I wrote you a personal apology for calling you a bell end and I offered you the hand of reconciliation.
Now you spit on my offer of reconciliation…

Further more, you wind up Molgrips, while knowing full well that not only are the points he makes valid but that he now knows much more than you do.

Lets us also not over look that you wind-up people here for your own amusement.
What kind of a horror of a human being, does that make you look like ?.
Here for all to see.

Also, you and some others wish to disagree with a Professor Lustig.
Laughable, some skinny exercise addicts on an MTB forum think they can dish a man who has worked hard to fight against obesity in children.
A fight that has lead him into learning more about why people get too heavy.
Prof Lustig works for a noble cause.
Yet you post that he’s not worth listening to, although he has conducted tests and experiments, generated hard data to not only support his conclusions, but to have his work peer tested around the world.

I respect your right to have your opinion.
And I am not here to police who is right and who is wrong.

But, for you and others to take a stance of having all knowledge.
And then to dish people such as Professor Lustig, is quite frankly, disgusting.

TJ
Somehow ?
FFS, sort it out.
Put it up, or shut it up !

TSY.
I wrote you a private personal apology, recently.
However, at no time did I offend your woman or your family…

I’m afraid not, that just shows you’re not quite up to scratch on engine knowledge. There’s a whole raft of combustion strategies that function different ways and provide differing benefits and problems. But ultimately fuel in*some efficiency factor=work out. Which is identical to any other engine, including humans. I advanced it to hybrids to allow the storage and use of excess energy.

CK.
I’m an Automotive Engineer.
Do you want to tell me about car engines ?.
No, you probably don’t, if you are going to try to tell me that the human body can be considered to be no more complex than a motor.

Solo – you really missed the joke about your woman not being real didn’t you? Are you new here?

I’ve not offended ‘her’ or your family.

Oh well, I’d still like to know the bit you think I missed from Taubes?

Yetski, we can do some pre-clinical trial tests at #spe****g*y***de

Solo – you really missed the joke about your woman not being real didn’t you? Are you new here?

I’ve not offended ‘her’ or your family.

Oh well, I’d still like to know the bit you think I missed from Taubes?

TSY.
You aint laughing your way out of this one.
Thats an apology FAIL
For, whatever you meant, it was the result that counted, no ?.

You could always arrange to meet me were there are no CCTV cameras and then try to impress upon me how funny you are.

In the meanwhile, I still do not see why you are correct and Prof Lustig is not…

Solo – It wasn’t an attempt at an apology.

You could always arrange to meet me were there are no CCTV cameras and then try to impress upon me how funny you are.

Whoa there nelly. Steady on now. 😐

In the meanwhile…

All those of a, move more, eat less disposition.

A well known member of our community here on STW, was struck with a heart condition.

It seems that strenuous exercise was not a good idea.
However, it was suggested that the subject lose weight.

Seems like an impossibility for the move more, eat less clan.

Still, fortunately, our hero didn’t listen to the likes of TSY.

Instead, he just altered what he consumed, and wouldn’t you know…
He lost 3 stone without the need to exercise himself into an ICU.

But still, diet has nothing to do with it.
Its all about move more, eat less, isn’t it.

Solo – It wasn’t an attempt at an apology.

😉

You are making a mistake.

WTF is going on now 😕
No one takes TSY serious not even TSY

Well done so we now now know you can eat less and move less and still loose weight as long as you eat less than you use.

This disproves the energy in ,energy out view how exactly?

No one takes TSY serious not even TSY

JY.
I’ve ignored your posts until now.
Normally, I’d agree with you.

However, I have informed TSY that he has over stepped the mark.

And he has decided to let that be.

It is now out of my hands.

This disproves the energy in ,energy out view how exactly?

Did you read the bit about Prof Lustig ?.

Shouldn’t you be taking that up with him ?.

People have 2 holes.. one is larger then the other.. especially on gobby fa……

What are you on sbout Solo?

Is that a threat?

People have 2 holes.. one is larger then the other.. especially on gobby fa……

Jasper Carrot, No ?.

Shouldn’t you be taking that up with him ?.

is he on the thread then? what is their log on so i can ask directly
I cant be arsed with your trolling/sidestepping stuff but I hold your family and girl in the highest regard, it is you I despair about it 😛

Is that a threat?

You refuse to apologize.

Not my decision, is it.

Why should I be sorry that you don’t get a joke?

Are you going to report me for a joke?

The shite’s flying now! 😯 😆

Guys – take a step back. It’s the internet, nuances etc don’t always transcribe well.

Go ride your bikes tomorrow, enjoy the trails and the extra days of riding.

I’m allowed to be grumpy cos I can’t ride so there!

🙂

Why should I be sorry that you don’t get a joke?

Shall I post something about your GF, shall I ?.

Well, no.

I’m not going to lower myself to your level.

You demonstrate here, for all to see.
What kind of person you are.
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Shall I post something about your GF, shall I ?.

TSY’s GF earlier today 😀

😆

You can say she doesn’t exist all you like Solo… I’ll not get upset about it.

That’s it Yunki… you and me outside the back of Tesco on the Wandsworth Road.

How dare you disrespect my Mrs.

You can say she doesn’t exist all you like Solo… I’ll not get upset about it.

Hhhmmm.

But I’m not you, am I.

Infact, I’m not really sure why I’m cutting you any more slack by replying

Its not your place to decide what offends me, is it ?.

This thread needs more beer!!

Have fun!! 😀

Its not your place to decide what offends me, is it ?.

You’re free to be offended by whatever you like… it would seem that you are particularly sensitive to comments made by me so from now on it’s probably best you start assuming my comments aren’t about you or directed at you.

Maybe Killfile me if it makes your life easier?

If you bump into someone in the supermarket, do you apologise? Even if it was an accident? I’m sure you do. This would seem to be a similar situation.

it’s probably best you start assuming my comments aren’t about you or directed at you

But your comments were directly aimed at me and my ex…….

Are you threatening me ?, telling me what to do now ?.

pretty sure both would apologise …what do you think are the chances of that ?

EDIT: TSY seriously let rip on my ex, I will join in 😀

This would seem to be a similar situation.

I wrote a personal apology to TSY the other week, for calling him names.

But I didn’t include his GF or Ex GF.

I’ve also invited TSY to address the issue, he refuses.

its a pity………