Bands who used to be good?…..

they turned into some shitty mainstream pop group

Can’t understand how anyone would genuinely call the Chilis ‘pop’. You have a very different definition of pop to me.

The texture of the sound is pretty unique on the mellow tracks, I love how you can pick out each instrument with its own melody dancing around each other.. I’ve not heard any band sound like that – but then again I’m hardly the most well listened person around.

Arguing about musical genres is for people who like genres, not people who like music.

they turned into some shitty mainstream pop group

….tells you all you need to know. 🙂

Can’t understand how anyone would genuinely call the Chilis ‘pop’.

very easily

good chillis freaky stylee era

commercial pop cak

WTF!!!!

As much as it pains,I find myself agreeing with Taz….. 8)

Double post …..

I am really starting to think Dwarf hates us Welshies 🙁 first we are phlegm spitters, then he rubbishes Gav the tango lurve god rugby genius then he says that he to would jump off a bridge if he had been a member of the Manics. Where will it end? Take a look at yourself man. Next you say that Bonnie Tyler is dog rough and Sian cant predict the weather.

Shame on you Muddy dwarf shame on you

Stone Roses (including Ian Browns solo stuff in the decline), Charlatans, Suede, Happy Mondays, and especially Ride off the top of my head…no guessing which era I grew up in!

Oooo, ooo…. I’ve got one! Does Michael Jackson count? I know he’s not technically a band, but he went from producing the sublime work of funky genius, to ‘Dear God!!! What on earth are you thinking!!!’ probably more spectacularly than anyone

I’ve admitted my snobbery many times Rusty. I’m not ashamed. Or proud.. s’just the way I is. 🙂

No he was always dreadful* it just took some longer to realise it.
Empty banal pop with good videos some pretty dancing and some crotch grabbing “ow” type stuff. Perfect for the 80’s as it was style over substance
* we can all tap along to some Jackson 5 numbers

Sorry JY. You are, once again… WRONG! Billie Jean has the best bassline ever written. So there! 😛

By the time he got to Earth Song, it was so jaw-droppingly awful, it defied belief that anyone could actually listen to it

Chilli Pepper conundrum is solved by those 2 videos:
They lost Hillel, they lost the FUNK.

(Love the way Flea jumps at the start of the 2nd video as if something BIG is about to happen and it just goes… wurp 😆 )

Sorry JY. You are, once again… WRONG!

Video?

WOO!

Does Michael Jackson count? I know he’s not technically a band

He might as well be, he spent years splitting up.

They lost Hillel, they lost the FUNK.

Is it allowed to prefer it without the FUNK?

Sandals with socks are allowed…

Oh sorry, I didn’t realise I was arguing with the thought police.

+1 for Jacko

Manic Street Sweepers –
early stuff was OK – although I did always think they were a bit false (middle class grads moaning about how hard life is) however last I saw of them was on Strictly Come Dancing, and any shred of dignity they had just fell away….

Given that one of them killed himself I think he was finding things pretty tough.

irelanst – Member
Stone Roses (including Ian Browns solo stuff in the decline), Charlatans, Suede, Happy Mondays, and especially Ride off the top of my head…no guessing which era I grew up in!

The Charlatans have only turned out one duff album and that was eight years ago. Second Coming whilst not as sublime as the debut was still excellent and last year they were as good as ever live. Saw Suede doing Dog, Man Star a couple of years ago and they were still great – although not thought one of their albums was worth buying since Coming Up and that was not as good as the two previous. I still rate Carnival of Light by Ride!

middle class grads 😆 knowledge fail

Junkyard you are wrong!

‘Cool’ is not an adjective becoming of any dignified soul over 30

Speak for yourself, Daddio.

Charlatans are a cut above most britpop era bands in terms of musical quality imo. No – several cuts above.

molgrips – Member
Charlatans are a cut above most britpop era bands in terms of musical quality imo. No – several cuts above.

Yep!

molgrips – Member

Charlatans are a cut above most britpop era bands in terms of musical quality imo. No – several cuts above.

Define musical quality. 😀

Musical skill and craftsmanship. Melody, arrangement, rythmn, counterpoint, harmony, variety…

Out of interest RS do you play an instrument?

Really dont get the fascination or respect for Jackson tbh
I dont know anyone in the real world who would consider themselves to be a fan
I am adding you to the list of people whose judgment I should not trust on STW 😉

Used to play French Horn & Tenor Horn as a teenager.
Was in a choir for quite a while.
Still make loud farty sounds with bits of brass now and then. 😀

And I’m a really, really bad guitarist.

Just wondered what you meant by musical quality.
If sheer musicianship, I’d say the Stone Roses were the better band, but as to the rest, it’s purely subjective.
I reckon James knock them into a cocked hat when it comes to arrangements, songwriting and harmony though. 🙂

As I’ve said before, I don’t think there is any right or wrong when it comes to music (or any form of art), just opinion.
And no one’s is more valid than anyone elses.

Always interested to hear others opinions, but I like to know why they prefer the things they do.
S’interesting. 🙂

I dont know anyone in the real world who would consider themselves to be a fan

Liar!!! You’ve seen me in my full ‘Thriller’ era get up, moon-walking past you. And you said you really liked my shrine to Bubbles!

Quite right, hence I qualified my statement about the Charlatans rather than just saying they were ‘good’.

James – yes, but a bit dreary. One of the bands that did stand out to me over the general pop noise though. Like Kula Shaker.

Kula Shaker were a comedy, parody band weren’t they? They were ….Weren’t they??

And you said you really liked my shrine to Bubbles!

I mistok that for a shrine to Hora 😉

I will challenge you to moon walk for me though

Junkyard – Member
Really dont get the fascination or respect for Jackson tbh
I dont know anyone in the real world who would consider themselves to be a fan
I am adding you to the list of people whose judgment I should not trust on STW

That’s ok! I have far more evidence I can provide on request 😉

Kula Shaker were a comedy, parody band weren’t they? They were ….Weren’t they??

Nope. They have recorded some great stuff recently as well.

Blink 182…newest album is absolute pants. Bands try to get to creative later on down the line and it usually go’s t*ts up!

Killing Joke went off the boil for a while, latest one is ok but not as good as Pandemonium

Saw them on that tour, quite possibly the hottest gig I’ve ever been to. I was wearing a biker jacket, and was right at the front in the thick of all the moshing going on. At the end, on the way out, my mate looked at me and ‘you know, you’re a really unhealthy colour!’ I was so hot I was practically purple in the face, and my jacket was soaked through… 😳
Only just remembered I didn’t have the album in iTunes, so ripped it the other night. Still sounds good to me.

I had the complete misfortune to catch Manic Street Preachers as a support act for The Levellers way back in the very early 90’s in Manchester. They were abysmal, really really poor. Couldn’t play a note and the ‘singer’ couldn’t carry a tune in a bucket.
I honestly thought they were some scagged-up locals who’d been dragged off the street to make up the bill.
A couple of years later they became this huge rock act that continues to mystify me to this day.
They were so bad that if i’d been a member of that group i’d have thrown myself off a bridge as well.

The Manics always seem so overblown and overwrought, unintelligible lyrics, student-union level, agitprop posturing, and singing of the ‘shout the words to show emotion’ school, and lyrics that have too many words in a line so the singer has to practically gabble to cram them into time available. I mean, can anyone explain wtf ‘Motorcycle Emptiness’ actually means? Because its utterly incomprehensible to me!
I suppose they’re popular with people who prefer ersatz emotion to the real thing…

Certainly agree that up to Dream Time and Love, The Cult were one of the best, but that only goes to show up the contrast since.

(Wanders off to listen to Moya again….)

Green Day!! Their recent stuff including & since American Idiot sounds like 40yr olds covering McFly or Busted.