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  • TandemJeremy
    Free Member

    No – If they “floor it” they will be doing 180 mph not 80 mph

    grantway
    Free Member

    TandemJeremy – Member
    No – If they “floor it” they will be doing 180 mph not 80 mph

    Don’t you mean they will be kissing Tarmac if one floors it

    TandemJeremy
    Free Member

    I was quoting a previous post.

    PeterPoddy
    Free Member

    Bikes don’t ‘floor it’ anyway, mainly because they have no floor and no ‘it’ to put on said floor. The generally used term is ‘cracking the throttle’

    I’m driving at the speed limit so no you aren’t legally allowed to overtake.

    Yawn.

    althepal
    Full Member

    It’s a fair point PP! Seems like the general attitude of the bikers on here is that if a bike can potentially do 180 then 100 is fine.. Cos you all know what you’re doing.

    nick1962
    Free Member

    I’m driving at the speed limit so no you aren’t legally allowed to overtake.

    Yawn.

    Tool

    Woody
    Free Member

    Ooooh get you 😀

    Point the bikers are trying to get across is that unless you have experienced what it’s like to be on a bike it is difficult to appreciate the difference in acceleration and manoeuverability compared to a car.

    It goes without saying that we know what we’re doing, coz bikers are awesome 😉

    nick1962
    Free Member

    Point the bikers are trying to get across is that unless you have experienced what it’s like to be on a bike it is difficult to appreciate the difference in acceleration and manoeuverability compared to a car.

    And the speed limits too 🙂
    FWIW I was riding motorbikes over 30 years ago

    Woody
    Free Member

    Always below the speed limit no doubt 😉

    althepal
    Full Member

    * note to self, must use smileys more.. 😛

    anagallis_arvensis
    Full Member

    This thread is ace. Good work fellas. My bike doesnt go over 100 by the way and runs out of puff around a true 85ish. It can still overtake very easily and quickly though.

    PeterPoddy
    Free Member

    Tool

    Spanner?
    Is this a guessing game?

    And the speed limits too
    FWIW I was riding motorbikes over 30 years ago

    So it’s “Do what I say, not do as I do” then, from another wannabe copper…. ?
    😛

    donsimon
    Free Member

    Point the bikers are trying to get across is that unless you have experienced what it’s like to be on a bike it is difficult to appreciate the difference in acceleration and manoeuverability compared to a car.

    I think there might be one or two bikers that disagree with the attitude of the bikers here and appear to have problems appreciating the problems they’re causing themselves. As I said earlier I’ll ride like a tool, but I won’t try and justify it or try and push the responsibility on to the car driver. Simples.
    And as for the experience argument…… 🙄

    PeterPoddy
    Free Member

    Basically, I know what speed limits are, thanks. I’ve been done for breaking them in the past (clean license right now though) and I’m fully aware of all the ins and outs of breaking them. Getting on your high horse about them and going on and on and on about it bores me. I really don’t give a flying chuff to be honest. Whats that Bible quote? “may the innocent man cast the first stone” or something along those lines? Just give it a rest, eh?

    deadlydarcy
    Free Member

    The thing is, riding like a tool (and thereby increasing the likelihood of you being involved in a KSI) does push responsibility onto everyone involved in scraping you off the road, out of a tree, back out of someone’s windscreen. It is not simply the victim and his or her immediate family that deals with the consequences of biker’s riding like tools. There’s a ripple effect that ends up affecting scores of people. But yeah, keep treating the road like it’s your racing track. You’re awesome!

    PeterPoddy
    Free Member

    As I said earlier I’ll ride like a tool, but I won’t try and justify it or try and push the responsibility on to the car driver. Simples.

    Indeed. Agreed. (although I wouldn’t say I ride like a tool) Most of our riding is done 2-up these days anyway and I get a punch in the kidneys for being too daft (a small wheelie off the throttle over Ballaugh Bridge got me one of those 🙂 )
    But I’ll only really open it up when there’s nobody around at all. I’m not into showing off or attracting attention (standard bike, legal plate, standard cans, all legal and nice and quiet) I just like to ride bikes for my own enjoyment.
    But every car is just a moving road block. I’ll be passing you soon enough, you can be sure of that. 🙂

    scuzz
    Free Member

    But every car is just a moving road block. I’ll be passing you soon enough, you can be sure of that.

    *swoon*

    klumpy
    Free Member

    There is a skillset to driving fast (or at all) on the road, it’s mostly positioning, observation, and planning. When done right, it can make fast feel mundane.

    Some folks do a race school or track day and take that skillset to the road, but it’s completely unsuited. (An interesting context for Damon
    Hill’s recent comments?)

    As for bikes seeming crazy fast; if everyone drove trucks but for a few odd cars on the road everyone’d think car drivers were nuts, zipping and nipping about at ‘incredible’ speed.

    PeterPoddy
    Free Member

    Swoon

    Take the piss if you like, it’s just a fact of life, and like I said earlier, one of the main reasons I got
    Into bikes in the first place was because I was sick of being stuck in traffic. A regular journey we do of about 50 miles can be done fairly easily 15 minutes quicker on a bike, with no fuss at all.

    deadlydarcy
    Free Member

    300

    PeterPoddy
    Free Member

    As for bikes seeming crazy fast; if everyone drove trucks but for a few odd cars on the road everyone’d think car drivers were nuts, zipping and nipping about at ‘incredible’ speed.

    That’s a very good point actually

    Woody
    Free Member

    But every car is just a moving road block. I’ll be passing you soon enough, you can be sure of that.

    One of the great pleasures of being on a bike is the fact you can go somewhere with your progress relatively unimpeded by cars. Would others have been critical if PP had worded it differently eg. in order to maintain my riding progress, slower moving vehicles are simply another potential hazard to be negotiated safely when conditions allow.

    Anyway, I’m off to hospital with my GF who fractured her scaphoid last night, not in a bike accident BTW 😉

    donsimon
    Free Member

    That’s a very good point actually

    Two wrongs do make a right then?

    PeterPoddy
    Free Member

    Two wrongs do make a right then?

    Ehh? What’s that meant to mean? Don’t see the relevance to Kumpys comparison, which was nothin to do with right or wrong at all.

    *is bemused*

    Would others have been critical if PP had worded it differently

    I tell it like it is. I don’t speak fluent bullshit. 😉

    You are in font of me. Very soon you will be behind me

    Does that sound any better??

    nick1962
    Free Member

    And the speed limits too
    FWIW I was riding motorbikes over 30 years ago

    So it’s “Do what I say, not do as I do” then, from another wannabe copper…. ?

    Actually it was mainly off road.I also commuted on a road bike to school and yes I did break the speed limits and did wreckless things. I was 17 and I grew up.Clearly some haven’t.

    PeterPoddy
    Free Member

    Actually it was mainly off road.I also commuted on a road bike to school and yes I did break the speed limits and did wreckless things. I was 17 and I grew up.Clearly some haven’t.

    OK, I’ll rephrase.

    So it’s “Do what I say” then, from a perfect driver and wannabe copper…?”

    Better now?

    weeksy
    Full Member

    Actually it was mainly off road.I also commuted on a road bike to school and yes I did break the speed limits and did wreckless things. I was 17 and I grew up.Clearly some haven’t.

    Doing silly speeds isn’t necessarily inappropriate. It’s the right time and place to an extent.

    I think some people forget the speed of accelleration of a 1000cc sportsbike.

    By the time you even react, my bike is 100m up the road.

    weeksy
    Full Member

    Watch something like this… however honestly it doesn’t really give a full perspective

    PeterPoddy
    Free Member

    It’s nothing to do with “growing up” is it?
    It’s to do with people that cannot abide to see someone having fun, doing something they can’t or just simply getting away with it. It’s envy. It’s blinkered. It’s moral superiority. It’s trying to force people to fit in, to do what they are told, to be wrong.

    And that’s why motorcycles have always succeeded in pissing people off. You see a freedom that you want to take away, to control, to batter down with a better point of view.

    And that’s why we do it. Because we can. 🙂

    But I’ll bet nobody, or very few people here feel like I do (I’ve asked this on STW before, so don’t lie to me)
    Its a bike. Weather it has an engine or not, weather you wear Lycra, leather, tweed or a suit, they are all one and the same thing to me. I see no difference at all, only minor details.
    🙂

    Pigface
    Free Member

    The clip of the R1 shows how good the lane discipline is in Germany.

    stevewhyte
    Free Member

    I have a great idea, maybe we could all drive as per the highway code, now if only it would catch on!

    Big bikes really have on place on the road these days, too powerfull too fast.

    If I get another Sports bike again it will be track only, anything else is pointless. Unless you consider willy waving has some merit.

    tinsy
    Free Member

    I had road bikes, I rode them like a “tool” I built a track bike I rode that like a “weapon” I got bored of track days and didnt fancy road racing. I bought an MX bike (again) I ride that like a “spanner”

    I have push bikes I “pedal those”

    Is there any point to this thread?

    Cougar
    Full Member

    Incidentally,

    those block white lines indicating no overtaking

    No. Solid white lines don’t mean “no overtaking,” they mean you’re not allowed to cross them (except when you have to, say to turn right or pass a stationary obstacle).

    igrf
    Free Member

    PeterPoddy – Member

    It’s to do with people that cannot abide to see someone having fun, doing something they can’t or just simply getting away with it. It’s envy. It’s blinkered. It’s moral superiority. It’s trying to force people to fit in, to do what they are told, to be wrong.

    And that’s why motorcycles have always succeeded in pissing people off. You see a freedom that you want to take away, to control, to batter down with a better point of view.

    And that’s why we do it. Because we can.

    But I’ll bet nobody, or very few people here feel like I do (I’ve asked this on STW before, so don’t lie to me)
    Its a bike. Weather it has an engine or not, weather you wear Lycra, leather, tweed or a suit, they are all one and the same thing to me. I see no difference at all, only minor details.

    I think all that bit is true, as to the growing up bit, having quite literally grown up and to some folks perspective grown old riding all manner of bikes, I’d tender the following personal observations.

    I always feel safer on a bike with an engine rather than one without, and the advice I give any younger person taking up the idea of biking on the road is to assume your invisible, whatever you ride, the difference however, the bigger the bike (and its engine) the more road space you can command, none would tolerate you riding either your road or atb down the centre of the road whereas things like Harleys for example can command that by their size & presence. Scooters, mopeds and the like very often can’t or get edged over, by bastards in cars.

    As to growing up, that gets forced upon you with the years, your reflexes and ‘bottle factor’ or slightly less of it. They are for risk takers and mostly young men, who will have their thrills, as long as they are prepared for the inevitable (I don’t know anyone who hasn’t stacked at one time or another) and that it is survivable and hopefully doesn’t involve any innocent party, then it’s life, live and let live it’s their choice.

    convert
    Full Member

    My first encounter with death was with a motorbike rider.

    I was following a transit in my car up a high hedged tight two lane side road (the sort you can get past each other but it’s a squeeze) just off the A272. A motorbike came up from behind and overtook me then went to overtake the transit. Sadly the transit was getting towards the end of the straight and to a blind bend. Sods law of course meant a car turned up at exactly the wrong moment, the bike rider braked heavily and flinched across in front of the transit to avoid the car which promtly ran him over. He ended up wrapped around the transit’s rear axle with his bike – a horrible mess of contorted limbs. I crawled under the van to be with him until the emergency services turned up but there was no extracting him without heavy machinery or space to check airways or do cpr. No idea if he could hear me or not (I kind of hope not) but he was pronounced dead when the emergency services turned up.

    No idea what the point of the story is – it was this guy’s judgement that killed him not the machine but since then my thoughts of coveting one diminished rapidly because bluntly I’m not sure I’d trust myself not to do something as ideotic and the cost/benefit ratio don’t stack up for me any more. I’m a bit thick skinned/lacking in emotions so dealt with the experience fine – the transit driver was a mess for a while apparently.

    weeksy
    Full Member

    My first encounter with death was cancer….

    I’m still confused what your point is 🙂

    maxray
    Free Member

    Fair play for doing what you did there convert :S

    convert
    Full Member

    My first encounter with death was cancer….

    My 2nd was cancer – and since then I’ve taken steps to improve the healthiness of my lifestyle to reduce the chance of that coming too soon – I guess this was a bit the same, kind of!

    I’m still confused what your point is

    I’m not sure either! I think it was, having seen the consequences of poor riding first hand it helped me make the decision that for me the potential pleasure of owning a bike was not worth the potential risk of me using one like an ejjiot – which knowing my personality I might well do!

    nwilko
    Free Member

    The following recipe can be followed to make one generic motorcyclist..

    Take a generic pedal cyclist which jumps red lights, hops onto / off pavements as it suits.

    Take general “motorist” from car normally having lack of patience, hatred of all other road users.

    Add bike with engine, allow modified cyclist to now also travel at twice the highest UK speed limit..

    da da.. a motorcyclist..

    ps. not all cyclists or motorists fit “general stereotypes” given than many do its no wonder that many motorcyclists are also complete twunts..

    convert
    Full Member

    Fair play for doing what you did there convert :S

    That bit was nothing – it was meeting the wife later and telling the little white lies about him being very peaceful and not looking like he suffered and her just sobbing about telling the kids and how she was going to bring them up on her own that was the hard bit. No idea how the emergency services do that as often as they do.

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